All 414 All Podcast Episode 49 W/ Heyzeus

Episode 49 The talented mystery who is Heyzeus comes with the first acapella of the pod! We talk about his contributions and history in the hometown scene and the reasons behind his moves! We then have a huge debate about the LaRussell AGT auditions and whether it was right or wrong?

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SPEAKER_13 0:39

Wait, alright. Let's go. Alright. The moon never looked so bright. Ron never felt so right. Treading through darkness is making me heartless. Don't wanna go back to the light. I don't remember my name. Question of march card in my grave. I think that I'm finally sane. Insanity comforts the pain. My pastor told me to pray. I said, get the fuck out of my way. I'ma live life like I'm dying today. Pass me the switch and rim, break down the yay. I'm young and retarded, born nearly departed. I'm already resting in peace. I dream with no sleep, my demons that creep. I gave up I run in the beast. I dwell in the pits, I'm possessed by the flow. Do what I do for the family though. Crazy as fuck the whole family, no. Crazy as fuck than my family though. Different and gifted, soulless and curse. Love is the legend, the pain never hurts. Stress for dessert, blood on my shirt. I'm going berserk. The seances work. The voices that need me that creep in my TP. I look to the stars and that something was happening. Inner self battling, we never tattling, dipping and dabbling. Rules, you challenges, who's in the booth, God in the flesh, some in the depths. Nothing is left. Jaguar Paul rise from the dirt. I am the fire and I am the earth. I am the water and I am the wind. I'm just the holy man, destined to sin. Eat from my body and drink from my blood. Be healed by my anguish and bask in my love. This is the church. This is rebirth, the fountain of youth, the reason you search. God save the queen, the root of all things. I feel that feeling of death and the breeze. Hope that you get it. So don't forget it. The lesson to cherish, so handle it well. 300 moons with a story to tell. Live life to die with a story to tell. Modern day wizards, decipher the past. Travel dimensions and Google the math. The mic is my staff. This world is my own. This booth is my castle. These words on my throne. Up up in my zone. Nobody's home. Please never leave me, but leave me alone. All by myself. Bad for my health. But the weed and the liquor and pills, they help. Just fuck the bitch, I don't know, but it helped. This rap shit is life. I watch it because it helps. Verse after verse, year after year, blunt after blunt, tier after tier. Never gave up. I'm just keeping it real. Truthfully, don't give a fuck how you feel. I'm on my own shit, bitch. Fuck how you feel. Driving the whip with no hands on the wheel. Christmas, no flow, colder than ice. What's in that cauldron? I drank from it twice. Move with the moon, based on my wounds. Any and everything. Talks in my room, up up in my zone. Nobody's home. Please never leave me, but leave me alone. Please don't forget me, forget about us. What happened to friendship? What happened to trust? Don't really matter, I'm giving it up. Tears to my life, bitch. I'm living it up. Don't want that ass if you giving it up. Don't even laugh. Oh, that shit really fucked. The problems with pussy ain't worth it to me. All the my love you ain't working for me. I got what I need. Me, me and me. A blunt full of knowledge, a cup full of tea. Focus my energy, that was the key. Search for the truth, and I found it in me. Just trying to be what I'm destined to be. Buy back the time I invested in me, bitch. Let's go. Go.

SPEAKER_04 3:18

Fuck with that. See, and and then he came through and did another first for the pod.

SPEAKER_14 3:22

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 3:24

We first acapella in this motherfucker. Fucking go.

SPEAKER_14 3:28

I had to do it. Please never leave me, but leave me alone. That's like fucking the best way to describe life. All my bitches.

SPEAKER_04 3:39

I said, I got all I need. Me, me, and me.

SPEAKER_14 3:42

What you say a sum of knowledge, a cup of tea. A blunt full of knowledge, a cup full of tea. One more time. Let's go. No, I fuck with that. And I fuck with when people come and do different shit, bro. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

True.

SPEAKER_14 3:57

Purposely. Come do some different shit, bro. Like, don't fucking, you know, don't let shit box. Don't let us box you in. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, let's go. I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_04 4:05

Yeah. And then one last thing. I fuck with the fact that um as you're acapelling, you're you're doing what we hope for when we hear an a cappella. A lot of these guys will come, they'll do an a cappella, and they're rushing the lyrics. Yeah. They're trying to spit it as fast as they can. No emotion behind it. They're just reciting. You know, like as you're spitting that, you're like feeling everything you're saying.

SPEAKER_13 4:31

Yeah, you know why there's no emotion behind that? Because they're lying.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 4:34

Yeah. Yeah. So I I fuck with it, bro.

SPEAKER_04 4:37

That's what we hope for. That's facts. You know, we're when we hear acapellas.

SPEAKER_14 4:42

That's what we want. Yeah, I appreciate that. That's facts. And also, I never thought about it like that. That's what I dislike about a lot of people's acapellas.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 4:49

Now you saying it out loud, I'm like, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, it's like, yeah, you're like trying, like, hey, I'm not gonna get it any faster when you do it faster, but do it, slow it down, and then that's how I'm gonna catch the bars, fam. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

True. But that shit valid, fam. Like he said, fucking feel that shit, Derek.

SPEAKER_13 5:07

You got to.

SPEAKER_14 5:07

And and stop fucking lying. Stop lying.

SPEAKER_13 5:10

Hey, if you ain't feeling it, are you lying? What you writing it for?

SPEAKER_14 5:13

What the fuck are you waiting for?

SPEAKER_13 5:14

Weird ass now.

SPEAKER_14 5:15

Actor rappers, Hollywood rappers.

SPEAKER_04 5:18

Hell yeah. All right. Mike Check, you now tapped into the R414 Podcast, where hometown artistry is supported, recorded, and awarded an interview from the number one platform in the city. Before we dive into today's episode, take a brief moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell so you can stay updated on future episodes as we continue to bring the truest talent our hometown has to offer. I am your host, the 414 Tycoon, more commonly known as Illy, and joining me as co-host is my Lyrical Brethren, the verbal executionist Street Team Hectic. These episodes are brought to you out of the R414 R Media Studios. This week, for episode 49, we have an artist who's been known to push the envelope when it comes to creative limitations. He effortlessly blends styles of rap, trap, pop, as well as forms of alternative emo and dark tones. Not only raps, but he also doubles down as a producer as well. We give you Hey Zeus.

SPEAKER_12 6:20

Oh, hey, that's a hell of an introduction. I ain't gonna lie. Appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_04 6:27

You heavyweight around here, bro. I'm so I didn't realize it until we started this podcast. Like, like I told you, I didn't know of you before the podcast, but once we uh started diving into who who are the who's of the who's in Milwaukee, you definitely came up pretty quick. You know, and then just being able to see how involved you were with the scene, and you know, everybody seemed to already have some knowledge of you, and then um seeing some of your reels that you have floating around of you uh spitting, I'm like, all right, dude. You know, he got a lot of style, and you know, he brings a lot to uh he has a lot to offer what he's bringing to his um his audience, yeah. So, and just the the other artists around you, you know, so and then you know, we had David on here, we had Keyve on here, you know, you fuck with uh BZ pretty heavy and just all fans. Yeah, it just all runs in the click, and these are all artists who they're good artists in and of themselves as well. So, you know, you being around these artists, them being around you, it that like is a sure signal that like you know you you're battle tested as well.

SPEAKER_13 7:43

No, honestly, the most beautiful thing about it all is what you just said. I get to do all of this with my people. And like, that's all I care about, bro. I don't like people like that. So the fact I could just run with my family and do what we love to do, and we all take care of each other, make sure everyone's straight, it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_14 8:00

It really is. And I like me being from a team, street team, was like, you know, at one point, uh we were like what you be doing, bro. Like how y'all be so so let me let me let me bring it back. I've known you, I've heard of you, I've seen you here and there. I've shaked your hand a bunch of times, what up, bro? What up, yeah. And then for me, the the defining moment for who who you are as an artist, not as a person, as an artist, was when you did the big beat. And you did it the year after me, I believe. Or maybe you did it the same year as me, and just a different show. It was one or the other. But we like I do. Yeah, yeah, okay. So yeah, I I had performed the year before, then I hosted, and then you did a show at the big nigga. That shit, that shit brought back so many of uh memories and emotions of like when we used to rock like that, fam. Cause you started up and then you did again, bro, you do different shit. So you started upstairs, did a verse a cappella, and walked down the stairs, and by the time you got down to the bottom, and that motherfucking beat drop, nigga, that shit was fucking cold.

SPEAKER_13 9:03

And that place was packed rockingly. I brought the whole crowd down. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_14 9:09

Like he he came down and like it was crazy because he came down the stairs rocking, he rapping a cappella, and then people are and they're singing with him, they're fucking rapping the words with him. Eventually he gets to the bottom, they fill out the crowd, and then the beat drops, and they rockin'. I'm bro, that shit was that shit was fucking fantastic, bro. I appreciate it. And I remember seeing it, and then for me as an artist, I was like, oh, that's who Jesus is right there. You know what I'm saying? And it was and obviously it wasn't trash, but people be doing trash, bro. I'm not gonna lie. Not trash. Now you got a lot of trash. No, no, so a lot of some shit do be trash, but I'm saying what when I say that, I kind of be lumping in shit that I just don't fuck with. It's not necessarily trash, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 9:51

Yeah, you can't do that, that's rude. You know, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_14 9:53

I'm not gonna sit here and be like, nigga, you trash just because I don't like it, you know what I mean? But that that's you know, your shit was cold though, is what I'm saying. When Street Team used to do that shit, bro, that's how we used to rock, bro. So when I seen it, I'm like, that's fucking amazing, bro. And then talking with you more and getting to know you over the last, I want to say, like, probably the last year or so, we've been linking more and more. I've been at more shows, I've been fucking with y'all camp and shit. And uh just speaking with you, bro, like you be putting on, fam. Like you really put motherfuckers on in a position, and I didn't notice that until you started telling me about it. And then I started stepping back, and I'm like, oh shit, yeah. Hey, Suit's one of them ones, fam. Like he really put on for his people, fam. And like you said, you don't even like motherfuckers, so for you to do that, it says a lot about your character, bro.

SPEAKER_13 10:39

Yeah, okay. Once upon a time when I came to this whole music shit, everyone was gatekeeping. You know, you was in there, everyone was gatekeeping. Facts. Once I seen I had an opportunity, I said, I'm breaking all that down. And then I just let everyone in. Not everyone, because some of y'all are trash, every camera, and some of y'all are not everyone, but a lot of y'all, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, we uh yeah, I put on for my people, man, and people who deserve it. And it is what it is. We need to do more of that for real. The city needs to show the city love. If you're not, I don't I don't care how high up you are, uh how down low you are when it comes to music or who you know or what, just put on for the city. Otherwise, you're not doing enough. Don't just get greedy and just run with it for yourself. If you can help what's going on around you, do it.

SPEAKER_04 11:22

Well, the thing is a lot of people um, you know, the saying people want to see you do good, but they don't want to see you do better than them. You know, and that's where that's where a lot of the gatekeeping spawns is because, you know, I I've been uh a victim, not a victim, because I don't think of myself as a victim, but I've been, you know, like they use this against me type deal, you know, where you know, I'm nice, you know. Anybody that I've ever rocked, I've never been anywhere and they told me, like, oh, you didn't go off, you know, like your music isn't fire. You know, I've never been anywhere where anybody has told me that, you know, but people have definitely tried to put up Roblox to get me out of, you know, competing against their person who they want to win or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of times people that's where the gatekeeping spawn from. They don't want, they want their person to win. They don't want, you know, if somebody like Heck shows up, it's obvious. This nigga's a clear winner, you know. If somebody like BZ, you, Kiev, you know, if we're if you you gotta compete against niggas like us. But let's be realistic. That's time for you.

SPEAKER_13 12:33

That's the beauty of it all. It should only be rooms filled with people like us. Yeah, yeah. For real. Competition is beautiful, yeah, yeah. That's I love that, but people are either too soft to deal with it, yeah, or they're haters. Like, you know, Milwaukee got that uh too cool for school complex. You know what I'm saying? People love to hate, love to hate, and it's sad because I love it here, it's my city, but people love to hate, and that's weird because why can't we all win? For real.

SPEAKER_14 12:57

Well, you know, I feel like we come from a city that hasn't even got to a position to where, like, you not even let I gotta say this right because I want it to come off very clear. You're not even gatekeeping a successful thing, is what I'm saying. Exactly. But you're not you're not even gatekeeping, like, you know, which all goes back to ego at that point, then uh uh entrance into the mainstream industry. You're gatekeeping fucking just being cool here, you know what I'm saying? Right, that shit's blown up. To a singular place, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:25

You're gatekeeping the local corner bar, exactly. Weird, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, that can neck is just gonna that's only gonna help that much, bro.

SPEAKER_13 13:35

No, but that show that that speaks to people's egos and shit like that. You know, people want to be better than everyone, especially adventures.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

Yeah, and a lot of it too is uh what I've noticed the most is a lot of the people who do the gatekeeping shit, they're people who aren't really talented like that, anyways, to you know, to start out with. They don't really got talent like that and shit. Well, that's why they need the gatekeeping why they need that.

SPEAKER_13 13:59

Most people who gatekeep used to rap and then couldn't rap, so they found something else to do to get money out of rappers.

SPEAKER_14 14:07

Pennies.

SPEAKER_13 14:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 14:10

Pennies, bro, pennies, bro. You trying to hang on to uh a couple hundred bucks. Yeah, if you was moving career. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd even I seen motherfuckers come off of shows with 50 bucks, man. Like the person who threw the show. Like you came out 50 bucks after you paid the bar out or the DJ, all that shit. Right. Which brings me to another point real quick. I've seen this like four times in the last month or so. Niggas will run down a whole list of why you can't get paid. Stop doing that shit. Like, that shit is fucking trash. I hate y'all so bad, bro. Like, nigga, why the fuck are you telling me why I can't get and then what the reason is everybody else is getting paid. Yeah. Hey Illy, bro, I need you to come through, fam. I can't hit you off though, cuz me, Zeus, Keith, we all getting paid, bro. I can't pay you. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 15:02

Or we're all doing such and such job and such and such. It's necessary shit, but I need you to come.

SPEAKER_14 15:07

I need you to come, you know, be the most necessary part of the show. Cause what the fuck is the show without the fucking artist? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, or the DJ, because I seen a DJ say that the other day. Yeah, he was like, they was trying to say that they had to pay security and the establishment, so they couldn't pay me. Nigga, what the fuck are you doing? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

They've been doing that to DJs forever.

SPEAKER_13 15:26

So you're how the DJ literally is the only one playing the music, so you're gonna pay security to stand there. Oh, but you won't pay the DJ because if the DJ turn his shit off, it's no show. Security there for nobody.

SPEAKER_14 15:37

It's an epidemic, fam. Yeah, what the hell? You know, because what it is is they they they're they're banking on you being thirsty for attention, yeah. You know, they're banking like, man, the DJ, he wants to be a cool DJ, he wants to be, you know, have niggas dancing all night. Nigga, I want money too, bro. Right, like I feel you, I feel you. I I do get we're gonna be talking about him rapping and shit, but nigga, I also want to make a living off this, you know. Of course, I want to come shut it down and people singing my shit and I'm fucking rapping and everybody's happy, cool, nigga. Yeah, that's part of it, nigga. That's part of the uh I can't even think of the word, but it's part of this process, and it makes me happy to do that, sure. But nigga, I need to get paid just like a DJ. Yeah, DJs don't want to be like, put your hands up, put your hands up. Okay, cool, nigga. That's cool. Everybody dancing, but I need to get paid for you know how much all this shit costs, bro. I need to fucking, you know, yeah, but real. I just brought that up because I seen like four times, and we were just talking about penny pinches, bro. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_13 16:34

There's no show without a DJ. Hey, and stop money grabbing these shows. Stop just throwing people on shows for no reason, throwing a hundred shows with the same people. Money grabbing, money grabbing, it makes it look bad for all of us when we actually trying to throw important shows.

SPEAKER_14 16:46

Yeah, when I when I when I when I try to invite people to fucking a show, you know, and then they say that local shit, it's hometown. Now I'll tell you that's everybody. I'm I'm I'm so into that now, I'll be saying it's everybody. It'd be females and shit, like, oh, that's are they local? I'm like, no, they hometown, bitch. Like you over here, like, bitch. You know what I'm saying? They hometown. What the fuck you talking about? No, but but you know when I when I try to tell them, I try to tell them about it now, like, hey, we can go do a show or something, they be hesitant because they're like, uh, you know, I know what goes on in those shows. Like, do you, bitch? Like, clearly, you've never been to a good one. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 17:21

Nah, for real, for real.

SPEAKER_14 17:22

Like, y'all would have came to fucking uh David Lopez fucking the release, bro. That shit was cracking, fam.

SPEAKER_13 17:30

It was cracking, but they the parking, no, the parking, the damn marathon in front of the damn bit they didn't tell us. We throw a whole album release and we didn't know what the hell was going on. There was nowhere to park. That was crazy, it kind of ruined it, but still shout out Jackal Lounge. It wasn't y'all for it.

SPEAKER_14 17:44

Yeah, no, but I'm glad you said that because I was like, who set this up for y'all? They didn't tell you there was gonna be a fucking two-hour marathon in front of the fucking establishment, yeah. At the time you're fucking opening the doors, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, I digress. But yeah, but if you go through shit like that, I'm just saying, let's say you would have just walked in there, which I did see like three or four people just walk in there, yeah. And they was like, Oh, what's going on? And they was like, Oh, and they got the kick in it, like, yeah, this is what it's really like, fam. You really get uh David Lopez, Jesus, Keith, Beezy, motherfucking Julian Gross. You get these people really doing great music for you, bro. Like, and then I'm telling you, Rossine, like three, four, because you know, I was up on the balcony taking you up there, and I was up there just, you know, and then I look and I'm like, Oh, I'm watching these people, they walk in and they're not like they don't know nobody. They're like, Oh, okay, what the fuck? They rapping, whatever. And then I get back to recording, I look back 10 minutes later, and then they're like, hey, this is the shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, oh man, like like he said, when y'all money grab that shit, it takes away from these motherfuckers who really put on good shows, bro.

SPEAKER_13 18:46

Yeah, you can tell the difference between a money grabbing a show. If it's 30 artists and y'all got four hours, I stopped doing that shit, bro. We know what's going down. Like, I didn't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_14 18:56

I did the good vibes only, and and good vibes only, and that is more than I would prefer. But since I talked to Stacks about it on the show and shit, so I'm like, that's cool, I'll I'll do it, you know. But I appreciate it actually. I appreciate you having me. And I've gone to those and those are rocking. I went to one before. And they good people, you know, yeah, yeah. Oh, and I fuck with them niggas. So I'm like, yeah, so I'll do it for y'all. But literally, my uh my threshold is four, bro. I would like I would like to do a show where it's only not to like to do, like to throw it, but if I'm a part of it, if I'm throwing it or rapping, I would like it to be one headliner, three openers.

SPEAKER_13 19:31

How many alright? So if you was to perform personally, right? How long of a set do you want?

SPEAKER_14 19:35

Like I need 15 minimum, but that's just me.

SPEAKER_13 19:37

No, I mean if not minimum, but what would you prefer? You know what I'm saying? How like what would be uh just the perfect set time? That's what I'm saying. 15, 20 minutes. Oh, all right.

SPEAKER_14 19:46

15 to 20, like the big beat was the perfect set for me, bro.

SPEAKER_13 19:49

20 minutes was like so you're not like a 40 minute?

SPEAKER_14 19:51

No, I mean I could, but also you gotta, you know, you gotta put that together. It's a long time. 20 minutes is a long time. Niggas think 40 minutes sound like it ain't shit, but 40 minutes is a long time. Songs are like two, three minutes, dog.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

10 minutes is a fucking old school album. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, nigga, that's a long time. And not only that, like, you know, I don't know how many artists practice beforehand and shit. I practice every day before I do a show for like fucking three weeks to a month straight, you know. So 40 minutes every night, fucking, or every day, you know what I'm saying? Like, I even think about that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 20:28

Yeah, the rehearsal, nigga, you gotta do.

SPEAKER_04 20:30

I rehearse a lot of things.

SPEAKER_13 20:31

I was just talking about that last night. I was talking about rehearsal and like who does it and who doesn't. Like, what makes y'all rehearse? Why do y'all like rehearsing?

SPEAKER_04 20:38

I just like for things to flow a little smoother on stage. Like, I don't like to like um fumble over words or like triple. I like to have it to where like I know I'm not gonna some a lot of my songs are like pretty hype, so like I don't like to feel like I'm running out of breath. You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's almost like as if I if I'm gonna run a small marathon or a mile or something like that. Oh, don't say marathon. If I'm saying we don't need another one, say like I'm gonna randomly join like run a mile for cancer or some shit like that, you know. Fucking I'd rather practice running a mile before that mile, so then on that day of that mile, like you run that mile. Yeah, everything could go right, but you know, you could be running that mile and be like, oh my god, you know, you could tell you like what are you doing today?

SPEAKER_05 21:29

We here for cancer.

SPEAKER_14 21:31

You buy true. So now I feel you. You know, it's for those type of persons. Low key, I don't. I'm gonna be honest with you. I I'm doing it for the good vibes because it's been two years and I got two new songs I'm doing. That's the only I only rehearse when I got new new material. True. Like after the first performance of my new material, yeah. If I do that, if I don't have anything new, I'm not, I'm not I not that I don't rehearse it, but I don't rehearse it like as in start the play mix and I'm rapping the whole. Thing too. I'm just kind of just you know, just yeah, make sure I got it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't reheard like, but I I'm gonna for this good vibe show because I said it's been the first in two years. There's a whole new fucking wave of artists, and it's different than back in the day. Like back in the day, I knew niggas wasn't fucking with me at all. And then it's like now it's like a lot of these niggas is cold, right?

SPEAKER_04 22:21

I gotta come with that shit. Yeah, that's that's one of the reasons like there's so many code artists that it's like you know, I'm not gonna be shaving down to like mediocre, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to make sure I'm amongst the top, you know, and then also I think a lot of time too is like um damn, I forgot what I was gonna say. Go ahead and say what you're doing.

SPEAKER_13 22:48

No, it's just crazy because the way you think about it is like I completely 100% understand y'all both completely correct. And that's exactly why I'm the opposite. Like, I want to watch what y'all do on stage. I'm not practicing a damn thing. I'm gonna hop on stage and I'm matching the energy, but I'm going times 10.

SPEAKER_14 23:04

I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_13 23:05

You know what I'm saying? Like, I know what I'm coming here to do already. I got that. Now I want to see how y'all act, and then I'm gonna make sure to either turn up just as much or possibly turn down because I've been in some shows where I'm supposed to turn up and then it's all some RB or something. I'm like, oh damn, I come on the hell damn. I gotta bring them in. You know, so I like to read the energy of the room before I make any decisions.

SPEAKER_14 23:25

And that's funny you say that, because like I said, I don't usually rehearse unless it's some new shit. And back in the day, bro, I hate when I say that, bro. It makes me sound so fucking old.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

We are oh man, but look, but but back in the 1900s. You know what I mean? For real.

SPEAKER_14 23:38

Back in the 2010s, nigga. No, but back in like 2012, 2013, when I was really like prime time, like my entrance type shit. It was me, and there wasn't there wasn't a lot of niggas, bro. That nigga they and then and then I'm coming with 30 motherfuckers. So it used to be like nigga, you gotta go so hard to fuck with me at any show, right? But it used to be Petty. Petty used to be the one fucking the one mother Petty Hendrix. I don't know. That's his new name. But Lil Petty. He used to be Lil Petty back in the day. I don't know about everybody. I was there when he first was like hitting uh 10 bucks two and shit. And I was like, who the fuck is this nigga? Like, because I I robber, I I came into it like nigga, I'm I know I'm killing it. And then he just used to come in there, and like you said, I damn near would be like, hey man, put me on after petty, bro. You know, because I want to see what he do, and I could never gotta see a skinny nigga that fucking can like wave surf and shit, or crowd surf and shit.

SPEAKER_13 24:33

And his energy, he do that different type of music, you know. So his energy is hard to imagine.

SPEAKER_14 24:38

Back then it was the it was more rapper, yeah. Yeah, but he was still on that rock star shit, but it was more rapper shit, though. You know, but you know, he like I used to literally sometimes I would be like put me on before him because I'll see the the venue. Yeah, I'm like I gotta stand on that bar before this nigga gets up there. Put me on before this nigga, you know. And I used to get up on bars, nigga, like get on the stool, jump on the fucking bar. They used to be mad as hell. Hey man, get your fat ass off.

SPEAKER_04 25:04

Because if he get on the bar and shit, this nigga damn near might do a backflip on that bar. So if he do it first, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 25:12

And then your backflip's gonna be a little toned down, yeah. Yeah, because you was up there. I was already up there, nigga. You got you copied me, you know what I'm saying? Right, yeah. Even though you did a whole thing.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

Or it seemed like you know, it it's slowly elevated. But if he does a backflip and then you go on there and just stand there, and then it's like, nigga, he did a backflip. You gotta do a front flip now. No, but I I I knew what I was gonna say now. Once I got past um, like in my earlier days of rapping, I didn't used to rehearse, but once I got past like 50-something songs, there's just too many lyrics that I had to memorize. And I just had too many songs in my head, you know. Like, so now it's just like it's hard for me to memorize songs because I know so many of my songs. I got like a hundred plus songs, and now it's just like there's just too many songs to memorize.

SPEAKER_13 25:59

Everything starts blending together. Yeah, yeah. You can literally start rapping one of your songs, it'll become another song. You'd be like, hold on.

SPEAKER_04 26:04

Or like sometimes like the temples will be the same. So like I'm like performing a song, and then I'll like slip up on a word in like the second verse or something, but then the first thing that comes to my mind to save me from the slip up is a different verse, so I just go straight into that shit because it matches the temple, you know.

SPEAKER_14 26:25

So the whole time that's a that's the uh the next song you're performing.

SPEAKER_04 26:29

Hey, it'd be like that, you know. But you know, that's a good way to put it on the thing. Once that started happening to me, I fucking started rehearsing all the time because I don't want to have those slip-ups on stage, you know. That's a good way to do that.

SPEAKER_13 26:39

No, but at least you know that and you handled that, you know what I'm saying? Some people will just deal with that and come out and just you know how many people I see come perform, they don't know their words, they're just up there, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 26:48

See while I live. See, but that that trips me out because like like you, if you go up there, like you said, you just going with the flow, you still go up there and kill it. So if you don't rehearse, you don't fucking rehearse, nigga. Zeus wouldn't get up here and do his shit, nigga. Like, but if you get up here, I don't rehearse nigga. Fuck that shit.

SPEAKER_13 27:06

Right to stare at everybody, like, oh that you forgot your shit, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 27:08

Like, and it don't like the rehearsal, non-rehearsal shit. Some non-rehearsal doesn't work for everybody. So if you're not the type of nigga who can just go up there and fucking not rehearse, but it's like you say, you gotta know know thyself.

SPEAKER_13 27:23

Hey but I feel like I feel like more people need to rehearse because I feel like a lot of people don't now, like, that's an unlike I I no one does it no more. I'm gonna put it that way. People just show up to shows high as hell, don't care no more. You know what I'm saying? Because I ain't gonna lie, the doors are too open right now. Like, I don't like gatekeeping, but at the same time, like open mics are cool. That's beautiful, that's wonderful. Everyone should be there practicing, but like there's people on shows who shouldn't be there, it just is what it is, and there's nothing against them, that's nothing against them at all. It's just you too early in, you're not taking the time to learn what you need to learn necessarily because no one's telling you, most likely. So you just jumping in looking stupid.

SPEAKER_14 28:00

90% of the time, nobody's telling you.

SPEAKER_13 28:02

Yeah, you just jumping in looking stupid, and then we look at you as crazy, but it's because you didn't have the information.

SPEAKER_14 28:07

Yeah, yeah. And we definitely looking at you crazy, just so y'all know we're looking at crazy as crazy as hell. And we're we real artists, nigga. We really try to take this shit to the next level.

SPEAKER_04 28:16

One time that shit happened to me live action, bro. Like, not to me, but like I was performing. I used to be in a crew called Hubbound, and it was three of us. My homies, they got drunk as fuck before, like right before we were about to go on stage. So we're on stage, we get through our first song, second song comes on. This nigga forgets his lines, and then he's sitting on the front of the stage, and he's just like bobbing his head. There's no vocals going on in the background, just the beat playing, and he's trying to like stumble through the verse, and I'm like, dog, this nigga is butchering this shit. There's a whole and we're at the rave, nigga. Oh man.

SPEAKER_13 28:54

Oh, you ain't mentioned that. That's a whole different thing. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 28:58

I should have started with that, but we were at the rave, bro. You know, and then I was like, I wasn't drunk. So yeah, no, for me, it was definitely uh nigga. I started freestyling. You had to, and it was good too. It's right, and that was at the point where I was actually good at freestyling. Like back then, I had you I I won like four or five different like freestyle battles and shit, like competing against people. So like I was actually good, sharpened up at that time. So for me, it worked out, but not so much for them because they looked a little foolish, you know, being at the rave, forgetting their lyrics, being too drunk.

SPEAKER_13 29:33

At the rave is crazy, but I'm guessing they got drunk because they was scared that that was at the rave.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

I'm guessing, yeah, they were trying to calm the nerves and shit.

SPEAKER_13 29:40

Yeah, and like I ain't gonna lie, I'll be on stage, plastered, but I be good.

unknown 29:45

I ain't gonna lie, I be fucked up.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

Like homegirl shit. We ran outside with my microphone, threw up, came back, still playing. When was this?

SPEAKER_14 29:53

That was uh, what's her name? What's her name, Keith? Uh Daisy Dukes. Daisy Dukes. Oh, shout out my dog Daisy Dukes. We love you. I'm never gonna let that shit go. We love you, Daisy Dukes. Yeah, she was like she was performing. Like, I'm talking about like, and then I was talking to, I think I was outside with Spades, and I was talking, and no, I was talking to uh Shimara the Queen. Yeah, and we was talking and shit, and literally like I looked over and she was running, she was outside throwing up. I'm like, what the fuck? And then I said something, and that's how I told Spades, I'm like, damn, she throwing up, nigga, that's crazy. Spades was like, Yeah, that's what and I was talking, I was like, I look back, she back inside rapping. I'm like, what the fuck? And then I go in there and tell Illy, I'm like, yeah, nigga, she just went outside, threw up, came in here, started rapping. Like, that's that's respect. Hey, I got the story. That's respect, nigga, but that's my fucking mic. No, I understand.

SPEAKER_13 30:40

So look, the funny thing about that is I used to throw shows in West Band. My dog Yella, I love you, bro. My dog Yella, he uh he was rapping, he came in, he got to rapping. All of a sudden, you just seen him get hot, and I was like, oh, that look weird. Why you sweating like that? Bro, just threw up on the microphone. On the microphone. On it. On it. Then he'd be more agreeable. This guy started doing the song behind him. It never stopped. Yellow grabbed a garbage can, threw up more, threw up more, came back, grabbed a throw-up microphone, kept rapping. They looked at him as a rock star. He was there.

SPEAKER_14 31:12

He not that's fucking nuts. They looked at him as a rock star. Oh, that shit ugly, bro. I would never on the microphone is nuts, nigga.

SPEAKER_13 31:20

Like, yeah, the DJ said, that's your microphone.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

And then, but he said the other dude grabbed that microphone.

SPEAKER_13 31:24

No, no, no, no. He had his own. He didn't grab that one.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

I thought you said he grabbed the microphone.

SPEAKER_13 31:29

I was like, never, nigga. No, the show's done.

SPEAKER_04 31:32

I'm not going out.

SPEAKER_13 31:33

No, I'm not gonna lie, that's probably the best show I ever had. One of them, the best shows I ever had in my entire life. Like hands down. Epic is hands down.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

Um, so I was going through, you know, the catalog you got on uh Apple Music, and um I I kind of realized as I was going through it, you don't have any like large bodies of work. Do you plan? Is there a reason why, or do you plan on dropping like a larger body of work?

SPEAKER_13 31:56

Or so the thing is my music is super scattered. I used to let my producers drop my songs. Yeah, I didn't really care. Like I I ain't gonna lie to you, I still don't care. To be honest, it's bigger than me. I have a bigger goal and all of this. Okay, so um, yeah, I plan on making bigger bodies of work, possibly. It depends on how I feel. I run I make music off how I feel and what I'm going through.

SPEAKER_11 32:14

Right.

SPEAKER_13 32:15

So if I make a big body of work, that means I'm probably either in the best place ever or the worst place ever. So we'll see how that goes. But that's a fucking great answer, nigga. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 32:23

No, I like that. He's like, nigga, I'm either in the best place ever or the worst place. Yeah, part of me, fam. That's great.

SPEAKER_13 32:29

Yeah, so I mean, my music comes with what I'm going through. Like, I'm telling you, I could say the dumbest shit on a song, but I promise you, there's a basis to it. Yeah, there's a whole basis. I don't just say anything. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 32:42

He said that uh pop the Perkinson and Pizza Hut was for real. Oh, I explained it to him.

SPEAKER_13 32:47

We're not gonna talk too deep about it, but it's for real. Shout out to Space Crime.

SPEAKER_04 32:56

So, you know, I don't got nothing to wrong, nothing against not having large bodies of music because uh, you know, heck knows this. I I went a whole year where I just dropped a single every week, you know, and I I was just dropping it as I think that's the wave.

SPEAKER_13 33:10

I think that's smarter to do than drop a body of work. And if you're not super famous, I don't think you should be dropping huge albums. Yeah, just drop singles and become relevant. Yeah, that's how I feel.

SPEAKER_04 33:18

Yeah, and you know, but I do like big bodies of work also for the um the thought process that goes into them. You know, like my boy um shout out iconverse, he just dropped his um project, and man, that was one of the coldest I'll tell you when when I tell you this album gives me like shivers, bro. Like back in the day when I used to listen to like Buster Rhymes, Nas, like Jay-Z albums, like, and I used to like play these albums for like six months at least, damn near every day, just dissecting the flows and dissecting the metaphors. Like this is it really brought back that feeling to me, you know. And a lot of albums nowadays I feel like don't give me that too much. Like, there are certain artists who do, but you know, majority of them don't really give me that feeling too much. So it's like you know, I respect the singles and you know, I'm all for them because I've did it as well, but I also like it's a I I have a different type of respect for like large bodies of music as well.

SPEAKER_13 34:28

100%. I love I used to do the same thing you did, like you said dissect everything, you know, but then I don't know, it became like a day when I knew I was cold and I just wanted to have fun, yeah. And I just started wilding out, bro. Like, I really don't. I don't know. I love I love I'm still a dissector, like I'm gonna listen to an album, you know what I'm saying? Depending on who it is at this point, because I ain't got time in my life to be listening to two hours or anything or hour and a half, I ain't gonna lie to you. But like I'll dissect some things, but I'm at the point where like and I think music is at the point where like you gotta prove something right away. Yeah, right away. Cause there's so many artists, millions, and it's like I don't know, there's not enough time in the day to really go through everything that's going on, you know what I'm saying, when it comes to music, like it's hard for me to sit down and listen to a whole album. I need to be impressed instantly, yeah, instantly.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Well, like if if and I'm the same way, like if the first three songs aren't like really catching me, yeah, I'm not gonna make it past number three. 100%.

SPEAKER_13 35:35

And the rest of the album might be cold.

SPEAKER_14 35:36

Yeah. Well, see, the thing, the thing is that's literally what you guys are explaining, is literally the the where the term single comes from. Like you you want that single to be the first thing people hear, and that's what's supposed to be like mirror. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. And then you listen to the album.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

But I get his album, he got his third song, is like I feel like that's the smash single on that album. It's called Lately. It's called Lately. Yeah, that's hard. The fucking the song is code. So playing it, yeah. We are playing it.

SPEAKER_14 36:06

All right, cool. Thank you for choosing my hometown pick. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the artists I had a movie next week. No, but uh fucking that single, like I said, is supposed to, but to your point, if you just dropping a bunch of singles, one of them gonna be the single. And then if you if that pops like you want it to, or like, or even if you don't want it to, it just unexpectedly pops. Now you got something to bring the body of work behind it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 36:33

Like and the reason I say drop a whole bunch of singles isn't because like I don't think you should make an album, it's just the way of the world right now. Like with Instagram and all these things we have to use, if you constantly doing something over and over and over, it's just good for algorithms or whatever the hell, you know what I mean? No, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 36:47

I kind of look at it like this, I I don't got a good analogy, so if this sounds stupid, just you know, just tell me to shut the fuck up. But it's like if I could sell you one fucking one egg, let's just say one fucking egg instead of the whole carton. I could just keep selling you this one egg, but I know if I try to sell you this whole carton for a little cheaper than the one egg would have cost if I sold 12 and you throwing 12 of the or 11 of those eggs away.

SPEAKER_13 37:12

That's a great analogy. Yeah, honestly, that's the best way you could have put it.

SPEAKER_14 37:16

I could sell you this one egg right now, fam, for a dollar, or I'm gonna sell you these 12 eggs for four dollars. Nigga, in 24 fucking days, I'd have made $24 off you off 24 eggs, or I could sell you this fucking these three cartons and you're throwing fucking 11 of those eggs away anyway. Yeah, I guess so. No, no, and I'm losing.

SPEAKER_04 37:33

You know it's a good and almost similar analogy, but I feel a little better. Uh cigarettes. Yeah, yeah. Because niggas will sell cigarettes singles in shit. Yeah. And when a nigga buy a single cigarette, they smoke the whole cigarette. I've never seen a nigga not smoke. But if you buy a pack of cigarettes, I watch motherfuckers all the time fucking stop like halfway, crush that motherfucker. And then you see a bum come by later and fucking pick it up cigarette butts and shit. Right.

SPEAKER_14 38:09

Like, that's what I'm but that's that's that was the point. Yeah, it's like you're not gonna use the whole thing sometimes if you give them too much at once. You know what I'm saying? Like, so the what he's saying, I I agree with that. I've never done that because I don't know why. I I think I'm gonna now. But see, my problem is I got these ideas for projects, and I just be wanting to put them together and push them out.

SPEAKER_13 38:29

You know, I under look, all right. I understand because my brain works like that too. I have to push myself to the side sometimes and realize what's going on in front of me.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

Yeah, no, see, I like what you just said there, pushing yourself to the side because my theory on that is the dropping singles, that's to find you know who the audience is and what they like best from your voice and shit like that, and you know, where you really fit in the audience's eyes, yeah, as opposed to albums, that's for your already caught supporters and yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's for like, you know, if you drop an album, I already know you, I already like your music, so I'm gonna definitely listen to your album. Right. And then you're like you said, you're either in the worst place of your life or the best place of your life, so you're uh talking about the whole experience of what you just went through to get through that and to that, and you know, as opposed to dropping singles, that's just letting people know who you are. Oh I don't think I fuck with them yet. And then you drop another single, I don't think I fuck with him yet. And then you drop another one, that's the one, that's what I like from him. And then once you get that many people who tell you what they like from you, now you got a direction. True.

SPEAKER_14 39:41

Oh, I see what I thought I was gonna say something else, but but what's good about also what you both were saying, because like when he did the 52 in a row week for week, it's almost like how Russ did it. Russ had a bunch of singles just every week, every week. And then when he did get on, he just put a bunch of them together, and that was his project. True. Remember when Grilla Zoe did that way back in the day? Type shit. Damn, I didn't even think about fucking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was one of the first people to do that. He just dropped a bunch of shit, and then when it came out, I'm gonna put it together. Now, everybody who didn't know me, but they know that one single, now they get to hear everything else. Whole time I already I've been to drop these, you just didn't know. Yeah. Now it's packaged into one, you know what I'm saying? So it can go however, however you need it to, looking at all right.

SPEAKER_04 40:26

Well, speaking of a single, let's go into another one of yours.

SPEAKER_14 40:28

All right, man. This is Time Stand Still featuring Nezzi and Julian Gross. Shout out my wife, shout out Julian. And this shit go crazy when y'all perform it, bro. Like, it's a really dope song, so I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_13 40:39

I ain't even write this, I freestyled it. For real? Swear to God. Went crazy. Let's go.

SPEAKER_14 40:44

And this also shows your um your fucking range. You got range like a motherfucker when you make music, bro. Appreciate you, dog. Let's go.

SPEAKER_11 40:54

Have you ever had a dream that you like you had you wish? You wait, you want you so you want you want you want to be.

SPEAKER_04 43:25

Yeah, that's fire. See, and it's one thing I love about your guys' style and vibe and what you offer to the hometown music scene is you guys really sound like you're making music that is like capturing the life that's like you guys are living and is happening in the moment. And like it's like it's it just feels real.

SPEAKER_14 43:49

It feels real and well constructed. Like it doesn't sound like y'all just in the studio, like, let's rap about fucking bitches and killing people. You know what I'm saying? No, not at all. Let's rap about this dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? Like and and and some for some people that's their real life. So you know I get it. But you can tell when it's not, is what I'm saying. Yeah. And like that's why yesterday when you was telling me about like, you know, you trying you just you got a whole bunch of shit where you just rapping on some whole weird ass beats and shit, bro. You just doing some whole other shit, but you talk about some, you know what I'm saying? Like that's the type of shit that makes an artist cross over into some real life, like not I don't want to say mainstream because I really don't give a fuck about no mainstream. Nah, true. But you know what I'm saying? Like, it's it's a level of artistry, bro, that you have to fucking cross over to be considered like, hey, bro, you're a pivotal artist, bro. Like you you got some shit where you really aren't thinking like everybody else is what I'm saying. You're separated, you're one off from everybody else. Um this is my shit right here, bro. You know, so I fuck with it, bro. Like every time you perform that shit, yeah. That that song is cold, bro. Because it nigga, from what you rapped in the beginning to that, come on, bro. I appreciate it. You know what I mean? Like the range is fucking insane, bro.

SPEAKER_13 45:00

I just really um bro, I love music. I grew up, I my favorite music isn't rap, first and foremost. My favorite artist is Sade. That's what I listen to. You know, a 90s RB. I'm listening to Candy Coder Raindrops when I go out. I swear to God, that's all like that's the type of shit I'm listening to. I I make rap. I don't really want to listen to it unless you're my dogs, then I'll pay attention to what you're saying. Other than that, Lil Wayne ain't helping me with nothing. I loved him back in the day, but now don't really care no more. I don't care about none of these people. It's family, nothing. That's it.

SPEAKER_14 45:31

Man, there's something to say about that, right? Like, yeah, because I feel the same way. I used to, you know, obviously. Well, what it is is you come you go from a fan to artist. Yeah, but now I'm an artist, so I don't want to. That's I like Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne said, I don't listen to nobody, I listen to me.

SPEAKER_13 45:44

Right.

SPEAKER_14 45:44

Yeah, so you're like, okay, I'm not mad at you, bro, because you make shit that sounds only like little Wayne, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? So I get it, and you know, but I do I for some reason I the they must it must have the the whole the trance on me, fam. Like they got me, fam. Yeah, no, but the new shit, I can't fuck with that shit. I can't rock with it. I'm so I'm not gonna lie, bro. Like it's really hard. Like, I even I I told Keyes too, I judged him the first, you know, he did the knee slapper. I was like, that's cold, bro. It's a good song, but it's it's gimmicky to me. You know what I'm saying? He shut me the fuck up. He's like, Oh yeah, he's like, Oh yeah, you think it's gimmicky? Did you hear this one?

SPEAKER_13 46:17

You know, hey, I'm not gonna lie or name no names, but I seen uh Key shut a lot of people the fuck up. I ain't gonna lie to you. No, fuck that.

SPEAKER_14 46:25

And I I'm I'm man enough to I looked him in his fucking face and was like, hey, on the pod, like hey, this is how I feel, nigga. You you a beast, you know what I'm saying? Like true. So fuck all the shit I ever fucking thought, or and I never said it like you know, I never shitted on it. I was in your boxing, nah, you know, like because I never shitted on it. I'm just saying, I just you know, it was like, you know, I don't now, nigga, now this nigga get on stage. I'm I'm in there with like with the with the rest of the bitches and shit. Heck be ready to clap a knee and what he said, I'm gonna crack my jokes. I'll be in there singing that shit, like nigga, that shit hard, man. Nah, for real. That's how it should be though. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 47:00

Like, you gotta have your uh I don't know. It's just the music now, you're right. Like it is hard. It's hard to trust a good song now because you can hear a good song and then starts the artist and everything else ass. You know what I'm saying? Like they could drop one banger, then after that is over. You can go through their whole catalog, it's done. Like, and that's how music is now. Like, you stay it's really a one-hit wonder world. It really is. And dear God, if I could be one, come on, I'm gonna put it's a one-hit wonder world.

SPEAKER_14 47:36

This is my plan, nigga. Let me know. Oh yeah, tell me quick. Hey, because I be saying that same shit. Niggas be trying to shit on one hit wonders. I'm like, nigga, uh, you know this. Uh, y'all remember Huey? The uh clean on the easy side, clean on the Huey, it's Huey, right? Yeah, bro. This thing Wayne killed that beat, so I forgot about bro. Damn, damn double homicide. No, but fucking he came to uh Sheboygan one fucking time and we did a show, and I'm like, oh yeah, this nigga, you know saying it was nobody was in there, fam. But I guarantee that one hit wonder money, he got five to 10k no matter what.

SPEAKER_13 48:15

So literally didn't even perform. He got to walk in and leave. He performed, but it wasn't nobody in there.

SPEAKER_14 48:20

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_13 48:21

He got to walk in, do his thing, get out. Like, I'm cool with that. He was at the end of the bar. I didn't even know it was him.

SPEAKER_14 48:25

He was just at the end of the bar, just chilling, no entourage, nothing.

SPEAKER_13 48:28

I look at music though, like, all right, I love, I would love to make an impact, but I made an impact on people I love already. And I watch him, but the people around me, you know what I'm saying? I watch people, I watch people grow from that. I don't care what this outside world thinks about me ever. Like, if y'all love my music, that's great, that's beautiful, but I help my people, and that's all I give a fuck about.

SPEAKER_04 48:48

That's the quotable right there. I would love to make an impact, but I made an impact on the people I love already.

SPEAKER_14 48:56

That's all I need to do. Oh, let's go. Oh, that's super fast. And no, but uh, I actually remember we we was talking about that here before. I was like, bro, it's great to go do your shit, but think about what that's gonna take from you. If you get to go do your shit, you can't take everybody first and foremost. You can't gotta be just you and a very few chosen. So then you gotta leave everybody and everything you love and know, the city you love, and you gotta hope and pray that when you come back, you still got that same true connection. And you know what I'm saying? Right.

SPEAKER_13 49:27

So a lot of people gonna hate on you in between.

SPEAKER_14 49:29

You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. So when you come back, you got you just gotta hope that the people that you did understand that you had to go get it and come back. And then a lot of the times, if you do get to that level where you gotta go get it, you're gonna be addicted to that. So you want to go do it all the time. Now you always gone.

SPEAKER_13 49:43

Facts.

SPEAKER_14 49:43

When the whole time you had a fucking scene that cared for you and loved you, and you know what I'm saying, that's really all that be mattering. So that's I was just I'll take it. Enforcing the point. That's the one. Right. Let's all have a prayer. No, but me too. I st I still feel that way because I still want to do at least a fucking uh mini tour of some sort. You know, I've never done that, fam. I've only performed outside of Wisconsin a couple times, you know what I'm saying? And like, well, let's set up a mini tour. Okay, and I want to, I want to say it, like I said, but it's like, nigga, I'm I'm on some like if it ain't about my daughter, I don't be giving a fuck. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 50:17

I really don't, and there ain't nothing wrong with that on my mind.

SPEAKER_14 50:19

You feel me? You feel me?

SPEAKER_04 50:20

But but at the same time, I still want like I want there's the hope and the dream that just lingers back there, but at the forefront, it's like it's this false thing that I can make it both work.

SPEAKER_14 50:30

Yeah, I could go do this and be here for my daughter every day. I mean, you can't, nigga. You can't. No, you gotta pick and choose when and when exactly is what it is for real. You can't lie to yourself. No, and that's the point. So I give it like four years and I'm on y'all ass. Nigga, I'm gonna be a little older, but I'm still on y'all ass.

SPEAKER_13 50:44

All right, none of that matters, dog. Do you got good music or do you not have good music? I don't care about none of that shit.

SPEAKER_14 50:49

I need like four more years, fam. I'll wait till she gets to uh when she don't even want to kick with me and shit. Yeah, true. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey dad, fuck you, give me some money, you know what I'm saying? I'm going on tour, fuck you. True, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 50:59

But I mean, think about it though. You could do little tours, you could be gone for three days and go to Ohio here, here, Michigan, woo-wop. You ain't gotta be gone forever. No, that's facts.

SPEAKER_14 51:07

And we done it. Uh, I want to add this to to so because that point is a good point, but it has to be monetarily, you know, it gotta it gotta bring bring in some shit too. So no, but that's what I'm saying. It's possible, yeah. No, it's possible.

SPEAKER_13 51:18

You gotta move correctly, and it's it'll all work for you. You gotta do it. Yeah, that's facts.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

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SPEAKER_13 52:11

Shout out FA, shout out Kid, shout out BZ, he's trash, shout out uh David Lopez ass. Uh shout out my girl, I love you ass. Uh everyone garbage, but nah, everyone cool. I got too many names. Shout out Milwaukee. If you're a respectable human being in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, I love you. If you're not, fuck you. Uh and that's that. Big facts.

SPEAKER_14 52:31

I like that last one. Just be a fucking respectable human. Don't be a weirdo, dog. Being a fucking weirdo, fam.

SPEAKER_04 52:40

Um, all right, so we're gonna head into a small interview portion. Um, give us a summary of who you are and what you hope to accomplish through your artistry.

SPEAKER_13 52:49

I'm Bruce Wayne, and I hope to accomplish uh a whole lot of money for my family. And uh uh I don't care about money at all, first and foremost. I swear to God, I could live broke today and be good forever because I got real love around me, and that's all that mattered to me. So uh really, I just want to feed the family. I want to make sure that my girl's kids got generational wealth. Uh I want to make sure that my mom is good when she gets to a point where she can't be. You know what I'm saying? I wanna uh that's all I care about, bro. I don't care about anything other than the family. Yeah. For real. That's it. Big facts. I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_14 53:22

I fuck with that all day because that's literally how I've been living my life, bro. You know, I swear to God, I just I don't even see how people don't feel like that. Yeah, I don't get it. Especially when you connect with another person like a significant other, and then you just like you should you should be all about that, fam. Like that's like it'd be tripping me out how far they have steered us from that. Yeah, like it's crazy how much they make you think I don't need that, I don't need a bitch. We need each other, man. No, we 100% need each other. This is what we here for, fam. Like we're here to do this, to make kids, and to uh raise them in a proper way so that they can do that and keep this shit going, fam.

SPEAKER_13 54:02

100%.

SPEAKER_04 54:03

You know, so that made me think of uh one of my favorite movies with that, like um it's got that message to it is like the John Hancock uh with uh or is it called just like Hancock with Will Smith? Oh Will Smith? Yeah, you know, like where dudes like when they're apart, they're strong as fuck, you know, but they're not like happy, but they're drawn to each other, you know what I'm saying? And then like, you know, when they're around each other, that's the only time they get to be fucking mortal and like actually fucking you know, pass away. Yeah, that's crazy in there.

SPEAKER_13 54:40

That's actually crazy.

SPEAKER_14 54:41

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, because now I'm like, damn, I didn't catch that. I mean I caught it, but I'm like, I never thought I haven't seen it in so long.

SPEAKER_13 54:47

I never gotta watch that until it's a great movie, dog.

SPEAKER_04 54:50

Like that whole concept of that, like, you know, when you match up with the right person, you actually get to like feel the things that, you know, because being mortal is uh is one of the fucking greatest things to be. Like to be actually born human is like they say the possibility of that happening is like such a small percentage. Yeah, it's like one in a billions to experience the things that we get to experience, love, hate, all that stuff, just every emotion, you know. But in the movie, it's like when they're apart, they're strong as fuck, but you know, yeah, they lose their self almost.

SPEAKER_14 55:28

Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean the power really added to what you really do, you know. So that's like that's like when I was younger, I definitely just was trying to fuck every bitch in the world. You know what I'm saying? Like that's literally disgust. Literally. You feel me? No, we always thought it's probably let's not let's not sit out here and cast. Like I that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to forget as much sex I could. I want to fuck everything, fam, you know. And because first and foremost, obviously it feels great. Holler at me now first. No, but no, but secondly, but secondly, it's like uh you know it was cool. Like it was almost like a ranking. Yeah, you know, like nigga when we was younger, especially our era, I don't know, I don't know, maybe it's even worse now with social media, but back when I was 12, 13, 14, like nigga, you ain't got no pussy yet. Like, what the fuck? What you mean? They're like, yeah, you got it. The more pussy, the more cool you are. You you you you could talk to you bitches out their drawers and all this other thing. So I that's how I used to think. And now as a grown-up, I'm like, it's cool, I get it. It still feels good. Holla at me. No, but you know, I'm on some like, you know, now I'm almost on some like, if I don't like you at all, like if I I can't, you know, back in the day, I'm this bitch annoying as hell. Let me knock. But now I'm like, I kind of don't even like you. Right. This this this shit ain't even gonna work for you.

unknown 56:52

True.

SPEAKER_14 56:53

It's not it's this this not gonna, it's not it's not working for me. It's not working for you, they gonna work for you. Yeah, it's not gonna work for you.

SPEAKER_13 56:58

Right, we're gonna be standing there looking stupid as hell. Dumb as hell, all gummy looking. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_14 57:04

Like true, and I'm getting to that like more and more every day. I'm just like, uh, if I don't like you, it's just it just it just can't happen.

SPEAKER_13 57:10

You know, I mean, I'm glad that's happening for you. I hope you're not knocking down anything. I hear you dumb. No, hell yeah. I've been on, I've been on some, but ladies, you heard it said holler at my dog for real. Hey, if you're bad, talk to my guy, holler at me.

SPEAKER_14 57:21

No, but you know, no, we need to find out. No, but you know, I've been on some like you know, 15 years with two of them, you know what I'm saying? Like true family type shit. I've been trying to be a family man, it hasn't worked out, so there's you know, social media, bro. I blame fucking Facebook and Instagram for real. No, but somebody told me the other day, uh it wasn't told me, but I've seen a real and somebody was like, nigga, we should not be seeing this many bad bitches, bro. Oh, yeah, no, that's you should not like this. Is unnatural, bro, the amount of bad bitches we get to see every day, fam.

SPEAKER_13 57:50

You know who said that years ago? Lil Boosie, he said they put everything in our face, we don't know how to cherish anything anymore. Yes, yeah. He said, Everyone bad now, we can't cherish the bad woman we got because they just present them all in front of us. We can't there's there's no cherishing anything no more, and that's the perfect way to put it. Yeah, no one cherishes anything on the very good way to put it.

SPEAKER_04 58:08

And now it's like there's so not only is there we do we have access to seeing all the bad bitches and the baddest bitches, but now even the mediocre bitches can appear to look ugly. I was about to say them bad bitches ain't even bad bitches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before some of the mediocre bitches, you could definitely tell it was mediocre to ugly, like just flat out.

SPEAKER_13 58:29

A mediocre bitch on Instagram now. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, she at 13 on a scale of one to ten.

SPEAKER_14 58:35

I fuck with the mediocres, I fuck with the mediocres, man. I like mediocre face, fuck it.

SPEAKER_04 58:42

Bad bitch body, look at that. So, what's your hip-hop origin story? Like, where did it all start for you?

SPEAKER_13 58:48

I was in the back of my mind, Pathfinder, when I was little as hell, and she played Tupac, All Eyes on Me, uh, album. And then that Ambitions is a Rider came on, and of course I heard rap before that, you know what I'm saying? But something about that, when that beat hitting them subs, I was literally sitting right next to the sub with her. I said, This is what I want to do for the rest of my life. I was like five, maybe younger. I went home and wrote a song, spelled all the words wrong, read my mom. That's all I did. I just read my mom and the rap. And that's where the that's where it all started. I ain't gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

The cereal you make tastes like shit.

SPEAKER_13 59:21

I just made fun of her, and that was where my first song came from. And I never looked back after that. I I grew up literally with I was one of them kids who wanted to be alone with a boombox. Yeah. So I just listened to Boisteman, Mariah Carey, uh Tupac, um, a lot of Tupac. Honestly, a lot of Master P I could go, honestly, I could go on forever. But um, that's where it started from. Like it just as soon as I hopped out of my mom's womb, I was on that basically.

SPEAKER_14 59:53

Like when you when did you start uh uh like I don't want to call it a career because I don't the career should be like when'd you start like recording open mics, recording, yeah, like shit like that.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:04

Like when you start like putting yourself out there, like hey, I'm a rapper, or I'm an artist, should I honestly in high school when I just at the table or wherever with my guys just rapping, yeah, outside. Uh I just walk into ciphers because I already knew how I look to people, and they're like, Oh, he can't rap, he's white. And I'd be like, Oh, this is gonna be hilarious. Watch this. And I'll just walk up and go. And I am Puerto Rican, just so y'all know.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:27

Let's get I drop bombs for that.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:31

Yeah, I just, you know, Jesus blessed me to look like Jesus. So it is what it is. But uh yeah, the music just I don't know, it's always been part of me, bro. I always loved it. I but I never cared about being famous. I'm not gonna sit here and like act like I ever wanted to be a famous rapper because that's a lie. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to be Rick Rubin. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Uh cool.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:54

Beard having ass. I have you gotta have the battle already.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:00

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:01

You're on your way, dude. You're on your way. I'm there. All right. Um, what's one of the most important lessons you've learned in life or music in general to this point?

SPEAKER_13 1:01:10

You said in life or music?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:14

Uh to love carefully, even in music, because um, everyone's gonna try to play you. Ain't no one really your friend except your friends, but you got you better decipher that shit for real, because this music shit is cutthroat. Yeah, as hell, everyone a creep too. I just posted about it today. If you look at my Instagram, I went in about all these creepy people in Milwaukee and girls, inboxes, all that. Everyone weird. And it's sad when you find out people you love weird, you know what I'm saying? So uh just to really be careful, be cautious, to protect myself, and to not necessarily put myself above everything, but to know at the end of the day, I have to sleep with myself, go to bed with myself. If my girl decides to leave me, I have to wake up tomorrow by myself, so to worry about myself.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:58

Yeah, that's a fucking great answer. Yeah, it's that's facts, bro. And I don't think people under each other's podcast ready, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:08

You're gonna be ready. Hey, I promise you ask anyone around me how I talk to everyone every day of my life.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:12

No, yeah, that's how that's how we chop every time I talk to you, no bullshit. No, but uh damn, I forgot I was gonna say now, but that answer, uh oh, I think people really sleep on that that fact, bro. Nigga, when they say I was born alone, you gonna die alone. When you die, my nigga, even let's just say you right there with your with whoever that you love the most, and you're like hugging each other, and y'all both are about to die. The moment y'all both die, you by yourself, nigga. You died by yourself, nigga. It doesn't matter how close or you could be holding somebody's hand, whatever, nigga, you taking that transition by yourself, bro. You know, and everything in life is like that because everybody has that choice to fuck with you or not. And it hurts like a motherfucker when a motherfucker don't stick to that. I'm not gonna call it a contract, but it's an agreement. Yeah, you know, hey, we're especially uh.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:00

No, that's a contract. I don't care. Don't tell me nothing. Don't don't lie to me. We this is a contract, it's a verbal contract. This is a verbal contract, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:07

So you know, but like you break when you break that contract, nigga, it actually hurts, but it's facts, it does happen.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:12

There's actually a a a word for that. Um basically it's like an unspoken agreement. Like you guys never actually said it, but you guys both know it. Implied, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:27

It's an implied contract, that's what it's called. It's affiliate. Legal, no, that's the legal term. The legal term is an implied contract. You know, and I only know this because I'm going through some shit at my fucking bitch ass job. But if you pay me a certain thing or something, or you give me a certain thing for so long on like a certain day or whatever, after so long, it's an implied contract that this is what I'm expecting you to give me, and you're expecting to give because you've done it so fucking much back to back to back. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:57

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:58

It's implied. We don't gotta say it. You know, we don't gotta say, we just, you know, you know what I do. Like if I've been fucking you for seven years and you ain't been fucking nobody else, and we've been fucking each other for seven years, it's implied that we married, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh my life. It's implied that we're not married. Nah, nah, nigga, hold on. We together, we fuck with each other heavy. No, what I was gonna say is it's implied that the government's like nah, you know what I'm saying? But what I was gonna say is it's implied that you know we do this for each other only. Okay, that's all I was gonna say. 100%. But you know, you're not wrong. So when they break that contract with you, that should be hurting motherfuckers, but not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:40

That's when you gotta call the other females, you know.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:42

Like no, but you know, but but but again, but again, like he said, you gotta be okay with that. You gotta, hey, uh, if if a motherfucker decides to change up on you at any given moment, you gotta wake up the next day by yourself, like you have your whole life. You always by yourself, really.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:57

I mean, yeah. No, and I I to it, I totally agree with that, man, because one of the things I live by is um you know, people will only fuck with you the majority of the people, you know. There are people that really genuinely love you, but a lot of people only fuck with you for how valuable you can be to them. Oh, I know. And you know, I've had this conversation with family members, my niece, you know, I try to ingrain this in her and shit, you know, like you have to always show up and be valuable because once you stop being valuable, motherfuckers have no need for you. So you always have to provide value to where wherever you are at, you need to find a way to be valuable to what's around you.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:39

Mm-hmm. And then sort out, and then sort out who's around you just for that, just for that specifically. And people who are like, No, I really I genuinely fuck with you. I see you have something valuable, but that don't mean shit to me. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:52

Yeah, but I mean And it's not a bad thing for people to find you valuable, you know, because people to find you valuable.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:58

Well, that's what I was gonna say. Before you move on from that, the reason that is is because at its core of being a human being, you can strip everything right now, this fucking building, concrete, whatever. We just outside fucking with fucking leaves covering our nuts and shit. You know what I'm saying? Bro, if you are not going to do something to provide for all of us to survive and keep living, yeah, you can't fucking be here, bro. You know?

SPEAKER_13 1:06:25

Right. You can't build a fire, you can't build a house, you can't find food, you gotta get the fuck up out of here.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:29

You have to be some type of value to what we got going on, or else all of us can die. Yeah, we're gonna die because of you. Because you one person is gonna kill everybody here. You know what I'm saying? Because it doesn't seem that seems drastic when you say it, right? But that's because we live now with all the shit we have, so we don't look at it like that. But no, that's true. No, we think about the system right now, and that's why we kind of like it's fucked up, man. They made it like that. Yeah, they did make it like that. They they did. I'm not gonna lie, like you gotta be able to do something to make money so niggas could buy fucking computers or whatever, ours, whatever. But if you strip all that away, you still gotta be valuable, my nigga. You gotta go do something, you gotta be able to move and make something happen. Even if it's just I'ma go get some shit, bring it back, and you finna cook it or something. Do something, my nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:11

You gotta I'm gonna go gather the sticks, I'm gonna go fucking pick the berries.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:15

Do something though. When I get back, you gotta fucking make the jam and fucking start the fire, nigga. Like, you know what I mean? Like, cause otherwise, we're all fucked. We're all fucked if we don't do this, man. Nigga, it's been thousands of years of niggas learning how to do shit better and better so that everybody can survive. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 1:07:31

If you come around right now and don't know how to do nothing on my life, something wrong with you. For real. It's a lot of them too. It's surprised, man. Bro, I'm not surprised. I be around them all the time. I ain't gonna lie to you. I be in this music shit. And you know what's rough.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:43

And you know what sucks is it jades you. You like so after a while, you're like, we starting, we starting down here where I don't think you can do anything again. Yeah, yeah. You gotta show me that you can do shit before I'm like, okay, I fuck with you, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:58

No, for real. All right, um, we kind of already were leaning into this a little bit, but what compels you to create the way you do, and what are some sources of inspiration for you?

SPEAKER_13 1:08:10

Boys to men and Mariah Carey. I ain't gonna lie, them sources of inspiration for real. I heard Mariah Carey sing, and I was like, damn, I wish I could do that, but I don't want to be a girl. And then uh I heard Boys to Men and I was like, damn, I wish I could that uh I could do that, but I'm not for people. Do you know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I always try to just grow as an artist so I could become those things to at least a certain point, you know what I'm saying? And um honestly, my people, that's it for real.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:37

Okay, yeah, fuck with that. Uh last question I got for you. How can the all four one for all podcast audience find your content?

SPEAKER_13 1:08:46

Uh be outside with me, because I'm outside all the time. If you want to find me, come outside or find me on Spotify, uh, Spotify, Apple Music, whatever else you use, A-G-Y-Z-E-U-S. Um, like I said, a lot of my music is scattered. I'm not gonna lie. If you don't personally know me, it's probably gonna be hard to find a lot of my stuff. But uh hit me up on Instagram. If you care about me, you see this interview, you want to know something, hit me up. You don't like me, also tell me that. Yeah, so uh yeah, just tap in.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:15

And he ain't lying. He always be outside. I'm always outside. And that's why I fuck with you, bro. No bullshit, bro. That's like the main thing when I seen like how y'all was moving, I was like, yeah, bro, because that's it, just it's that's how I like to move, fam. Even though I've been gone from the scene as long as I have not gone, but as I stepped back, as soon as I came and made my entrance back, even before the podcast when I was doing the hosting and shit, nigga, you will see me. I'm out, nigga. What's up? I could be me, I could be with 10 people, I could be with just Ellie, I can be with just B U, I could be with y'all, and I'll just pull up. What's up, fam? All by myself, nigga. What's up? I'm here, bro. You you gonna see my face, bro? You know, people gonna be like, oh, that's heck. And if you don't know me, somebody in the vicinity is gonna be like, Oh, you don't, oh that's heck. You know, all you gotta do is ask, hey, who's that? Oh, that's heck. Somebody's gonna know. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I fuck with how you move, bro. No bullshit.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:05

Appreciate you. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:07

Let's roll into these hometown picks real quick. All right. Let's see what we got. Let's go off uh Hey Zeus pick first, bro. This is Simmy. Shout out to Simmy. Shout out to my dog. Ash Catch him. Dog, that I do not like that name, fam. I'm not gonna lie. Wow. It just sounds crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:21

Um, just the FYI. I am also switching mine as well. Tweak it, man.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:27

Mine's gonna be off the icon. Oh, okay. Well, I'll just keep mine if you do yours then.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:32

Uh for sure. But uh, this is sim, ash catch him.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:35

Well, mine ain't gonna be the same song.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:37

No, yeah, but that's not, but I'll just I'll pick it, yeah. But yeah, this is similar ash catchup. Well, I really don't want to say this name no more. You keep making me start over.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:48

I don't like saying this. Every time I look up there, I keep saying catch up, but it don't.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:52

It actually makes me uh look at what's it called? Pokemon different, bro. What you mean? Why you name him this? Why is his name?

SPEAKER_13 1:10:57

Because she be catching them all.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:59

Is that what the fuck that means though? Ash catch them, yeah. She be catching all the dudes. Oh no, I know. I'm saying not for her, I'm saying the Pokemon, the name. That's the Pokemon nigga name. Yeah, Ash Catch him.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:09

Ash Catch them all. That's why you say, but she couldn't spell it that way, but that's why he sued her.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:13

But no, but that's why he's called that though? Yeah, yeah, because he catches them all. Oh, okay. All right. I'm not I don't know shit about Pokemon, but I don't know shit about Pokemon. All right, let's go, Simi.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:37

Hey Shot Perfect shit, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:43

I don't have a fit, dude.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:45

I was loaded to your seems to be really all be together. I was not really doing it.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:06

Um my people uh nothing.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:30

Throwing ass at the Simi was throwing yams.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:33

Say favorite part of the video, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:13:34

Hey, that was actually uh, I'm not gonna lie, bro. I'm I'm not gonna lie. I've seen her perform before. She definitely could uh elevate that a little bit, but this actually showed me a a little another side, fam.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:45

And I promise you, bro. Simi, she's not capping in her rap. She she wanted one star.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:50

Oh, yeah, already that I got that right away. I can already tell about that shit. But you know, just as far as like rapping wise and shit, that this was actually a whole new side to me. And I fuck with that because she was actually like rapping a little bit, you know what I'm saying? So and then that push it song that I heard. Who be making her beats? She just be grabbing them off something.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:08

Uh she got people. I forgot who made that. I forgot who made both of these beats. She told me, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:13

But uh but that motherfucker's cold. That push it beat is fucking fire, nigga. What so hard? I need some beats like that, man. Somebody get at me, fam. I need that because that's like that new shit. Like, it never really drops and shit. You just, you know, it's always just you just ride that way. Yeah, you just ride it, exactly. So it never really drops and has a whole like full circle the whole time you just go in. But uh, shout out to Simmy, man. That shit was cool. And I'm not gonna lie, bro. Watching y'all party the way y'all do, I'm I'll be like getting blood pressure headaches and shit, just thinking about like what the fuck, nigga. I feel like I wake up the next day, like, nigga, take me to the hospital. Oh, we do, but don't tell nobody. He said, Bro, because I'll be like, damn, bro, like I used to party like that all the time, and I just can't do it, nobody do not fucking don't think we out here sweet.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:00

We be fighting over the bathroom door, who about to throw up first? Life rough, bro. It is what life rough. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:07

I'm like, I hate throwing up. But what song, what song you was gonna pick?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:11

I gotta go with Crown Heavy.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:12

You know, that's the one you want? Yeah. You fucking bastard, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:19

We can play that one and the lately, though, because I do want the audience to hear the lately. But nigga, this song goes.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:29

So, what you wanna do, right? You wanna like skip to your verse on here or something? Or you wanna just play his? Well, I'm in the first verse. Oh, okay, so we're good then. Alright, cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:36

But I gotta shout him out. Man, this his first song is called Back to Milwaukee. Literally one of the coldest intros I've heard from an for an album. And then it seamlessly flows into the second song, and this nigga's got me on the fucking second song of his album. First verse. That's crazy. Yeah. I was like, ain't no way.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:00

That's some like that's some respect right there.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:02

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, so I'm like, this my nigga fucked with me heavy, bro. No, definitely. And I fuck with him heavy too, bro. I love this nigga. He allowed you to really set off the tone of his whole project. Yeah, and it did. Well, the first the the back to Milwaukee track, that shit set it off instantly, but having a feature in the second song is.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:24

He spelled his name different. Oh duh, it's not even icon verse, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:28

Yeah, no, it's uh Sir Westbrook.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:29

So now I can go back to this real quick. I didn't even know.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:37

But man, the whole album is just phenomenal, bro. I can't say enough words about this album.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:45

Damn, don't even got the feature you on there, bro. Try to start shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:50

Try to start some shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:16:52

All right, let's go.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:42

I'm gonna start charging lazy. Top and I'm back for him personal.

unknown 1:18:48

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:53

Heavy is the head.

unknown 1:18:54

I got the crown in the soccer.

SPEAKER_14 1:18:55

Yeah, that's it. You went so hard on that verse. Right, bro. You went so fucking hard on that verse, bro. That shit's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:02

So shout out, shout out Icon. Shout out you, Sir Westbrook, shout out Illy. He let me get my uh my hove moment, yeah. True. Yeah, and that shit was I I can't like I said, I can't say enough words for what that meant for me, bro.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:20

When this dropped, like six days ago. Six, seven days ago, yeah. All right, let's go. This is uh Sir Westbrook lately.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:31

Tryna make it up, still a press on my head. Same muscle every day, I don't childish doubt. Lately I've been running up a chick check. Tryna make it up, still a place on my head.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:48

Trying to elevate my feet when they pick up the money down, do it, but you're gonna get the stuff that's gonna be done with the stuff, I'm gonna follow the stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:29

Tryna make it out, still the piss on my neck.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:32

This nigga so cold. Bro, I love simplistic. But straight to the point hooks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:37

And that's the that's not the song I was thinking about either, but that shit fire. Yeah, it is. That's a good bullshit. That shit fires a bitch.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:43

So he's got that as the third song on his album. Like I said earlier, you know, if if your top, if your first three songs don't catch, I'm not listening to the rest of the album.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:53

No, you're not lying. I feel you.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:54

I'm I'll try to make it as far as I can, but I I'm I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna make it to the whole thing, you know.

SPEAKER_13 1:21:00

And honestly, I'm at the point where like I love, okay, I used to love J. Cole, all that, you know what I'm saying? Lyrical, spiritual. But then one day I was really just listening to that and I was like, damn, I'd rather just read a book than listen to this right now. For real. If I'm going to turn up now, I need to turn up. I'm not trying to hear about your baby mama problems, your baby daddy problems. I don't care about what happened to you when you was 12. I'm trying to just get lit, dog. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm at that point of life for real. I went through all that. I had to learn the lyrics and figure out how to rap for real. And I feel like I'm at that point where now I could just be ignorant and have fun. And you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:34

I disagree, but yeah, yeah. So that's why I said I hear you. No, but I don't disagree. Like, uh, you wrong. I'm saying like he's what I what I think people wanted from something about something like J. Cole. I'm just using an example. The album was too much of just that. Yeah. Like you didn't put nothing in there that was not nothing. It was a couple of them, but the whole shit was like slow down, listen to what I'm saying. Like, nigga, sad when you've done it. Yeah, I'm not trying to feel like that. Bro, can you can you can you like you should have sprinkled a little razzle dazzle on that? For real, bro. You know what I'm saying? Because he's good at that. You good, just you should do, and that's what that's what I think would balance it for me. No, you're 100%. Because the whole album of what you're talking about, I can't fuck with that. Then I'll be like, oh, now it's now I feel like I'm fucking violent and mad, and I want to turn up and slap shit out of somebody.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:24

You know what I'm saying? Like, and not only that, now just now I overanalyze everything, everything that's going on in my fucking day-to-day life. I'm fucking thinking too deep into everything now. Yeah, facts like for real. You not what is their intentions on this? And like, you know, this person is treating me like this, and this they're really trying to do this. Like, no, yeah, because there is like raw wave and shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:46

I should fuck my day up, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:48

Bro, music controls, music controls emotions. That's why a whole bunch of religions don't let you listen to music. Cause it's like, bro, it literally controls you. I used to listen to the weekend when I was younger, like old weekend. Yeah.

unknown 1:22:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:59

Ruin my life, ruin relationship, everything, bro. He said, ruin my life. I can't. No, I'm good. I learned my lesson.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:08

Are you gonna do your other?

SPEAKER_14 1:23:10

No, we go ahead. We do that's that's three, bro. You be you be uh taking a spot with yourself, bro. We gotta start doing our own shit. We had a that was supposed to be a segment, bro. I know, but you didn't do it, bro. You just put it on the hometown pics. Y'all seeing live time growth right here, bro. Look at that. This is beautiful. I love friendship. No, but it's cool. Uh no, yeah, it's cool because we got we get to this, uh, we'll do one real talk, bro, and then we'll do that topic. That topic is really good. So then the the which one is better for you, bro? Which real talk? I forgot which ones we picking out shit. Uh this one that one or the uh uh I think the theater one.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:51

Yeah. Which one? Theatre. No, no, go down.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:59

This one's like this is the real talk segment. Is why did LaRussell audition for America's Got Talent? She's gonna talk about it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:08

Why would an artist with millions of followers who's already made millions of dollars and has sold tens of thousands of tickets go and audition for America's Got Talent? I know to the average person it may seem like a show like that is for people who are trying to be discovered, who haven't seen success in their careers yet, who might be trying to get signed. But to us, we see it as a place where you can be discovered by millions of people across America every single episode. And we had lengthy conversations before we decided to go on America's Got Talent because we knew that some people may have a different take or may feel a type of way about seeing an artist as big and as successful as LaRussell on that show. But there is an unquantifiable value of going on national television and being shown to millions of people who may become a fan of what you do. So not only does he get to grow his brand and awareness for every episode that he makes it through on the show, but he gets to bring his community with him and showcase their talents as well. It's the same mission, just a much larger stage. I feel like sometimes we can get so caught up in our perceived value or meaning of something that we forget to look at the facts. And the fact of the matter is that he found his way to national television to be seen and discovered by millions of viewers. Larussel saw a new opportunity to make that happen. And he took it.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:32

Why would an artist I'll fuck with this real? Because for a while, and she completely changed my perspective on it too, you know, and my perspective might have been slightly changing anyways, but it is not.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:48

So go ahead, I want to hear this.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:49

You know, a lot of times we'll be like, oh no, I'm not, I'm not gonna do uh these competitions and shit like that. But when it's a competition like that, you know, where there's that many viewers, you know, he's not looking at it from the perspective of I need to win this conversation, you know, competition. You know, he's looking at it in the perspective of I've already got million plus followers on Instagram, you know, videos already, you know, this dog rakes in millions. He spends hundreds of thousands on ad space, Instagram, and shit like that all day, anyways. So he's looking at through the lens of any new viewers that haven't already seen me through whatever outlets I'm currently using. I'm trying to get all of these niggas. You know what I'm saying? So, like, and that completely changed my perspective on because for a while I'm like, oh, I'm not doing competitions and I'm not doing this and I'm not doing that. You know, I think I'm I've grown past that. But really, that's me, in my opinion, saying to myself, like, I've grown past reaching out to this this select audience that might be in this area and shit like that. So she can they completely changed my perspective with that you know whole performance. And he did he was cold at the performance, you know. He had his his neighborhood up there, like he had people dancing, you know, it was it was crazy. Actual people from his neighborhood on stage dancing with him who would have never gotten to do something like that. No, that's lit if they would have not had the opportunity through him. You know what I'm saying? So what y'all think?

SPEAKER_14 1:27:29

So I feel like uh if you see, like you can see where it is, like the the comments are popping up and shit. One of them says right here, he says, why is he on America's? Oh, I missed it, son of a bitch. But it was like, Why is he on America's Got Town? I thought he was signed. I thought this was for people who don't have that opportunity to do shit. That for me is a bigger point. Not a bigger point, but it's that point to me sticks out more than what you're talking about. Yeah. Because I 1000% agree. Um a regular person who's trying to get seen is really trying. Trying to get an opportunity is now overshadowed by somebody who is on Jay-Z's label. And you got your niggas from the neighborhood dancing on the stage with you because you already established. You're not finna come with a whole group of niggas who dance in your neighborhood if you're not on like that. So you that the only reason you got the niggas on the stage is because you're already established. Uh nah, I don't I don't believe so. Because a belief thing, it's a fact. The nigga signed a rock nation, bro. Like you already are on. Think about you're not having a regular niggas not having the money to bring a sprinter van full of his people. And that's just not that's not fair.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:34

Yeah, but he had the money before he was signed to do something like what he said.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:38

But that's what I'm saying, though. But I'm not I'm not the take away the signing part. Yeah, I'm not even saying like take away the signer, the signing part makes it worse for me, but you could take away the signing part. You're already established, bro. Like you already are on, bro. Like you already have 2.2 fucking million followers. You have all this shit already established. So now you are in a position to make it look like you're doing all this. But if you was just a regular nigga trying your hardest to do that, you not bringing your whole neighborhood to fucking dance on the stage with you, bro. Like, that's just not that's not something. Now I'm not saying that he's bogus or wrong for it. I'm just giving my perspective on I kind of agree, like, nigga, you already on, bro. Why you doing America's Got Talent, fam? Like, I now you just being I don't want to say like I'm that for certain, but to me it's coming off a little a little greedy, fam. Like you, you, you, you, you kind of stepping in the way of other niggas who might not have a chance to, you know. Obviously, there's not a lot of rappers on America's Got Talent. And I feel like him being established helps him with that fact. Because you're not gonna be just an underground rapper on America's Got Nobody gives a fuck. Fuck you, nigga. But since you LaRussell and you got that vibe and you're like a dancy ass, you know, I'm just a kid in my backyard rapping ass shit. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of it gives it gives it a different uh ambiance when you're on stage, you know what I'm saying? So again, I'm not saying he's wrong, and I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying I disagree with, you know, oh, you know, it's it's more like uh in a capitalistic world, it's great. Yeah, nigga, fuck it. You're getting more numbers, you're getting more money, you're fucking taking everything off the table. You're fucking just every dollar is in your hand. All right, nigga, that's cool, but shit, you already was on, fam. Why you doing that and taking it away from somebody else who might not have had that chance? Obviously, that's the perspective. That's not to say that the perspective you're coming at it from with the chance to have more fans is bogus. That's not you're actually that's actually fucking genius if we if we're being 100% honest, man. That's a fucking genius move. Like, hey, I'm on, bro. Let's go do America's Got Talent. Nobody ever was like, no, I don't think anybody's ever thought about that, man. Like, it's actually a really smart mark. But I guess the way I see and view the capitalist shit that we live through already, it's it's a it kind of fucks it up for me, fam. And like she's talking all really nice and making it sound all fucking appropriate and like you know, and I'm like, and all I see is like, bitch, you lying to me right now. You're trying to fucking gaslight me into believing that this already well-established person is so smart and cool for fucking doing some shit that he could possibly, again, possibly, take it from somebody else who might not have had the opportunity. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:23

I agree with both of y'all, but first and foremost, it's not possibly he took somebody's opportunity. First and foremost, he took somebody there. If he wasn't there, there would be another person there. It is what it is. He took someone's opportunity. I agree with you. I also agree with you. I think it's a genius idea to go out there, get your fans. Also, who knows how his brain works? That's another thing I think people don't put into perspective. What if he always wanted since he was little to be on America's Got Talent team? What we we never think about how people's brain work because we only put ourselves into the situation. But I have to think of the overall everything when I think about that. I don't know. He might have just wanted to be on TV. That might be his damn dream. I don't know what he's going through. Oh, that's facts. You're right.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:01

I never thought about that. Like, what if he did? What if that was like some shit? What if that's just fun to him? He literally having the time in his life. Like, nigga, I'm gonna go on America's Got Talent one day and rap. Like, see, that that that see, but that's a fact we just gotta assume, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but if that ever like if he just came out and said that, I'll be like, Well, let me shut the fuck up, nigga. That's yeah, you live in your dream, nigga.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:21

That's what I'm saying. I don't blame anyone for having the time of their life. If he genuinely enjoying that, it's not about money to him at all. Like, I get you might generate it, but in his head, that might have never been a thought. I can't blame him for doing that.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:32

No, no, see, and and then uh just to make my position clear, like I said, I don't think he's bogus at all. I just I I can see the perspective of the comments that was that shit corny, bro. Like, why you you know I mean so that's all I'm saying, but now that you bring that up, it makes me see Ellie's point a little more too. Cause it's like, nigga, you brought all your guys up in that could just that could have just been some shit. That could be his dream. You just had that in your mind, like nigga, one day I'm gonna get y'all out of there because got talent, nigga, you know, and it just so happened that I was already on before I did it, and I had the money and our resources to make it happen easier. You know what I'm saying? Right.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:07

Or what if those dancers was a literal dance team that he just put on and now people know about them? Type shit. Yeah, you never know.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:13

Which which is which is I think that's kind of what's that's kind of the situation.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:17

What they're saying, yeah. Um and and one of the things that I think about, you know, hearing both of your guys' perspectives, um for one, you know, the okay, so I I think about like how TV records, how you know, they they record a lot of this stuff like months before it actually airs and shit like that, you know. So you know, he didn't get signed until recently this year. True, you know, so that could have been a situation where that was already recorded and done before he actually got the opportunity with um Rock Nation. That's super true. You know, and then from what I believe, his contract with Rock Nation isn't like a standard, like you're signed to me, I own all your shit, you know, like we're gonna run all your shit now. And it's more so like you keep doing what you're doing, and then we're just gonna add a little bit of what's going on. We're gonna supplement the marketing. Yeah, yeah. You know, so it's not like the you know, he's on, but he's not really on, like, you know, someone like the baby is on, or you know, um uh what's what's her name? Um Glorilla, or you know, like these artists who like the label is like really backing true. You know, they're betting everything on this person. Like Rock Nation's not sitting there betting.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:44

No, they're just like we're gonna make all this fucking money off you, fam. Like betting. They're like, yeah, we know we're gonna make all this money off you, fam, and we're gonna fucking take it all from you. Yeah, basically.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:53

But that's not like what Rock Nation's doing with Lorenzo type shit. No, no, they got something.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:57

But that's but that's what makes me know. That's what not makes me know, what makes me assume that he's very well off because they already came at him with the bullshit, I'm gonna take all your money. You know what I'm saying? That's that's what kind of put him in the limelight, is he brought that up. And then his he people think it's just music, nigga. The shit you be saying ain't going viral for boost your artistry too, bro. Like when he came out and said, Yeah, Rock Nation came to the table, I said, Fuck you, nigga. That shit boosted Lil Russell, bro. A lot of people found out who LaRussell was after he came out and said that and spoke against the music. So that's I it can only I can only assume that the deal when it did go through all that was fixed, and now he knows he finna it's a it's a it's a good deal, is what I'm saying. Yeah, and then I'm just again, all assumptions. I don't know, I I wasn't in the fucking room nigga, who knows what the fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:48

You know, right. And then one of the things that um I was thinking about on like uh your point is um you know he's I don't think he actually because when you think about taking somebody's opportunity, you know, there's a lot of motherfuckers who they'll get an opportunity and then not do nothing with the you know the fruit of that opportunity after the opportunity passed. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Like you know take for instance, like um somebody buy a house, you know, and they got the opportunity to fix up this house or flip this house, and then they don't execute it right, you know, and then it they end up losing a house or fucking not fixing it as well and not even you know knowing how to flip it for as much as they could have got for it, you know, as opposed to someone like LaRussell who's he's shown through time like fucking I know how to execute an opportunity and then I know how to make the best of that opportunity after the opportunity, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So like, you know, I I'm somebody who firmly believes like opportunity is either gonna either you meet opportunity and then you do something with it, or it's gonna present itself to you, and then if it realizes like you don't know how to utilize it, it's gonna move to the next person who knows how to utilize it or who might have a chance at utilizing it.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:14

Okay, so I'm gonna play complete devil's advocate right now. Yeah, yeah, that's that's business owner Ellie talking about.

SPEAKER_14 1:37:19

I'm a capitalistic USA LE talking.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:22

Complete devil's advocate. All right, so LaRessel already has been through things, knows things, dealt with things. So he's going onto this platform completely wide-eyed to it, not close-eyed. He's running into this knowing exactly what's going on. Now you got people out here who traveled from other states, other places, literally put their heart and soul in to get there, and then he gets to just hop on there and he already knows what to do. They want to learn, it's in their heart. That's all they care about. Oh, I want to get this opportunity, I want to grow from this, I don't know how to take this opportunity perfectly, and bro, just snatched it from him. They're like, dog, that's bro, I've seen on Instagram.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:53

That's not even technically a thing. It's a hundred percent. You're reading to be ready for a moment is not snatching a moment away from somebody.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:05

No, it's not ready because he's been established in his own thing or something. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Exactly. You're right, but hold on. I gotta get this out the way, fam. You're saying like they came up to him, like, hey, the opportunity's here, LaRussell, and you're ready for it. No, nigga, America's got talent. You go to them. Hey, I want to do this. Exactly. That's no nigga, that's way different from what you're saying. You say opportunity presents itself. He's not that's not a presented opportunity for this is a competition. If the opportunity, it's that's presenting itself to join competition, nigga. That's not presented to you, that's you finding it.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:37

Yeah, but you can also be ready for competition, bro.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:41

That's like saying, like, that's like, did you go find your building for your business? You found it, nigga. That was an opportunity like illy, uh, but it's have this building, nigga. And you're like, oh, I'm ready for it because I got the money and I'm ready. Ah, nigga. You went and looked for the building. Hey, I gotta find a spot, and then you found it and you was ready to fucking, you know, play on the fact that you found what you wanted. Yeah, but it wasn't to brought to you, is what I'm saying. America's got talent, isn't it? LaRussell, we want you to come audition for us. No, nigga, that he was like, America's got talents, auditions are open. I'm gonna step in here, I'm gonna put my fucking uh my energy and focus on being a part of this audition. And you got all that training on yourself, nigga. Like, it's not yeah, but that's that's not stealing. I'm not saying he stole nothing. I'm saying that he's watch out, little nigga. Yeah, and that's like that's the big broad shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:32

Better luck next year to everybody who wasn't ready. Oh, see that. I'm not saying and I only say that because I compete, you know. Like when I go to these bodybuilding shows and shit, like I compete against niggas who's been they've been training for years. Yeah, you know, some of these niggas are on steroids. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, but I'm putting myself, you know, I might not know as much as these niggas, and I go on stage with them. I'm aware that somebody who's been working longer than I have at this and who's ready for the, you know, they've been putting in the hours two, three years, they've been learning everything they gotta know. They've been dieting the way, yeah. But that's not that doesn't go to say I didn't put my heart and soul into the prep for that competition. But if I, you know, they didn't snatch it. They just they've been prepping before I started prepping, so it's their moment. It's way different. But look, I think it's Eddie different.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:21

We're also skipping out on a whole other thing, right? People knew who LaRussell was when he was under. We're not gonna sit here in line and say that them America's got talent. People didn't know what was going on. Them judges, they probably knew who that was, and they automatically probably push him to the next round because they said it's gonna be better for the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:37

Yeah, but yeah, but no, you know, there's a butt. He thought Billy's not going for I'm not going for that.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:47

If you are now, I'm gonna tell you, because you're not trying to, you're not trying to get the net.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:50

I'm not hearing that because you know, that's like saying there's motherfuckers out here who don't know who Lil Russell is, and they're just fans. So then there's probably famous people out here who don't know who Lil Russell is because they just they got enough money to not care who he is. True.

SPEAKER_14 1:41:06

Yeah, but you but you but you're going off the fucking one percent. There's a one percent of people who are which as so and so and so titled famous and rich, nigga. There's that's one percent of the fucking nigga. If you're just a regular person, fam, a lot of people at this moment kind of know who to not not he got 2.2 million followers, bro. You know what I'm saying? 2.2 million is not that many people, bro. You're saying that for the person who got 300. Check this out from a perspective of check this out, having 10 million dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:36

Hold on, check this out. There is 500,000 people in the city of Milwaukee on the census, 500,000. Just this one city. Times that by two, that's a million. So times that by maybe the next city over, join those two together, you probably got a million people with just two cities. True. Add two more cities to that, you got two million. That's not that many people out of 50 states that have multiple cities, there's a lot of people in this world. That's not that. Two million people is not okay. It's a lot of people, but it's not a lot of people in the broader.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:17

Yeah, yeah. You know, you're adding fluff to some bullshit because I'm not adding fluff. Oh, listen, listen, listen. This is why I know for a fact you're adding fluff to some straight bullshit, nigga, because the same way you saying that's not a lot of people. How many people do you think have over a million followers? Ever. Ever, nigga. In the in the and then you look at that, how you saying it's only so much, nigga. How many people you think are a million followers on the world in the world, nigga? To six, eight, it's eight now, eight billion people. How many people you think out a million followers, bro? And not even a million, nigga. I'm about to say nowhere near a million, not even a million people in the whole fucking world out of eight billion people have a million followers, nigga. No one knows. This nigga got 2.2, nigga. You are 1%. You're an elitist, nigga. You're a fucking when it comes to followers and people following you, and the opportunity you have above the average person to make some money and have resources, you are an elite person, nigga. You are fucking up here, nigga, in the 0.001% of people who have that many people following you, though. I see what you're saying, but I think it's a fuck, right? I think you're putting too much weight.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:24

Fuck the little guy, nigga. You're putting way too much weight out of a follower. What you mean? On an Instagram follower, bro.

SPEAKER_14 1:43:32

You know how much money he makes from big major time companies for having that many followers? Just followers. I hear you. I hear you, but it's not too much weight, nigga. That's nigga. If you had a million followers right now, nigga, you would be on nigga. You could get money, nigga. Advertisements, you would have fucking placements. Even if you're not good at what you do, you're figuring out. You got a million people that follow you. I'm I want my shit on a million people. Because if out of a million people, I can get a hundred people to spend a thousand dollars with me off just your one account, right? I'm making profit, nigga. And then I could do that for however many other people, nigga. That's my thing is you think the number small.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:09

Uh, because I'm not saying it's fucking an insignificant number. I'm just saying it's not as big as making it. That's what I'm telling you it is. I think it's pretty big.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:19

That's what I'm telling you. Is that nigga? That there's not even a million people in a world of 8 billion that have a million followers, nigga. He got 2.2, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:27

Uh, but also, you know, who knows if all those followers are actual people.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:33

Now you bringing it some. He brings to the bullshit. I'm just saying, you're like because I'm like, nigga, what you talking about, bro? I just proved it. We gotta keep the podcast dude. Well, they also say, like, he's stealing nothing, is what I'm saying. He's not stealing, he's just kind of like watch out, bitch ass nigga. I got this, like, you know, and it's like uh he did bodies, you know. He was like, I've been there, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:04

You know, and that's why I don't feel because I compete, I've been there, you know. Yeah, I've I went to these shows, and you know, motherfuckers who were more ready than me was like, watch out, little nigga.

SPEAKER_14 1:45:12

But that's not more ready, is what I'm saying. You trying to simplify it to him being ready. I could be the fucking most rehearsed ready fucking artist ever. And if this nigga just shows up out of nowhere on the day I'm auditioning, right? I'm fucked, nigga. No matter how much I prepared, no matter how much I fucking try my heart out, no matter how good my music is, there is no fuck being ready, nigga. He got the fucking look and the resources, nigga. Right. And you got a whole group.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:36

The resources is part of the readiness, bro. Okay, hold on, let me say this.

SPEAKER_13 1:45:40

Let's say, let's say you and you're one of your bodybuilding competitions, right? It's all cool. Like you see, like you said, it's people bigger than you that been in it longer, and then all of a sudden, oh Darnold Schwarzenegger just pull up. That happened. And they know him because he's famous from eating the movies. He pull up after Robocop with the clout. You know, they're gonna be like, oh my god, and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:59

I see what you're saying, but at the same time, LaRussell's not that big. LaRussell ain't been in what work movies and you know what I'm saying like.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:07

We're talking about randomly. Yeah, it's not different. It's different.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:12

They knew who he was. He's been on fucking Shade 4-5, like their biggest fucking. He went, he did a fucking national radio tour to talk about how he said fuck Rock Nation. Nigga, he's known, nigga. Like it's not like when he walked in the building, everyone said, Oh my god, that's LaRussell. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:34

No, I'm not I'm not saying he's not known. I'm just saying, yeah, yeah. No, I know.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:38

I'm just saying, I'm just saying, nigga, you fucking tripping. If you think this nigga don't have that's a to me, that's a watch out, bro. He elbowed a little kid. He did body, he dead body on the biggest.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:48

To me, it's it's more so like I feel like y'all making it seem like La Russell is like a bad bunny. You know what I'm saying? Like he's not on that scale.

SPEAKER_13 1:46:59

You can't compare anyone to bad bunny, bro. But that's what he's easy. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:04

Not even. Yeah, okay. Yeah, not no more. That's that's what I'm getting for what's going on. No, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:10

No, I'm comparing to the competition, right? And LaRussell isn't super famous, but he's more famous than that 15-year-old girl who walked in there that her mom brought all the way from Tennessee to pull up and do her thing, and then someone said, Oh my god, LaRussell, and just shoved her little ass to the side.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:31

Perfect, perfect example, man. Because I don't think you're getting it, fam, but nigga, Bad Bunny to America's got talent is a crazy example because Bad Bunny's like way past that shit, right? Yeah. But let's say uh fucking let's just say Tyler Hero, and he's pretty fucking I don't even know who that is. That's a basketball player from Wisconsin that plays for the Miami Heat.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:55

No, he plays for the Bucks now.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:56

He plays for the Bucks now because he got in the trade with Giannis. No, I'm not saying Father. I'm just saying, just check me out. He's good, but he's not Giannis. You know what I'm saying? Giannis would be terrible for the example I'm about to give. But Tyler Hero is just really good and he's not Giannis, though, right? So let's say Tyler Hero comes back to Milwaukee, they got a fucking city basketball competition. And you got niggas that might fuck around and get in the G League off of this opportunity. What's a G League? That's under the NBA, but they got like a league that's plays under the NBA, and they got buttons. They all got teams in the G League.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:48:30

So and then you could play your ass off in the G League and make it to the NBA. And get signed to the boat. The opportunity's there if you do that. So let's just say they got a basketball competition, everybody's nigga. We've been playing our ass off, all that shit, bro. And it's all four of us. And then they're like, oh wait, Keith, sorry, bro. You're good, but Tyler Hero's pulling up.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:48:50

You out of the competition. It doesn't matter how good you're gonna be. I can't dude. Tyler Hero's out of here, bro. Like, you can't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:55

How's Tyler Hero been in the NBA though? A little minute, a little minute, a little bit, but that's like if I said he's now that's still different. No, but he's not a fucking if a G League person pulled up. Even then, that's fucked up.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:07

Okay, okay, I got you. Even better. For let's say fucking Thanassis.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:11

Yeah, that would that that would help me more. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_14 1:49:13

Like let's say even, but even then that's crazy because Thanassis, obviously, you're way fucking better than any nigga who's just regular.

SPEAKER_13 1:49:19

The majority of human beings.

SPEAKER_14 1:49:21

You know what I'm saying? And I'm not thinking about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:23

But anybody showing up to compete in the G League should be able to stand with anybody who's currently in the G League to compete against them. That's what I'm saying. Anybody who's showing up with America's guy's.

SPEAKER_13 1:49:41

It's about the face card. You were skipping over like Russell Daystein, dude, and they probably said, I don't care what he do, he good, and just ran it. That's what I'm saying. You think he really went in there and had to try out, really, like really had to go hard?

SPEAKER_14 1:49:54

No, that's the whole fucking point. He has to. He's doing it because you're a fucking greedy American. Capitalist ass nigga. I'm not saying all that about a nigga I'm saying that because that's what the fuck it boils down to. Oh well, this is gonna help me get more eyes on me because what I have isn't enough, and I want more, nigga. And I'm not saying you're wrong for that. That's the that's the last thing. I'm not saying you wrong, nigga. I'm saying that's just a fact of the matter. That's the whole fucking video, that's what she explained. You guys don't understand. You guys didn't look at it like this. You didn't look at it like he's gonna get more followers. America's got talent has six million followers, and nigga, you only got a third, you got a third of America's got talent followers, nigga. What the fuck are we talking about, fam? You know, he's gonna get more eyes, and you know, basically, and you know, for me, all I'm listening, she's like, you know, I just don't understand why everybody's mad, you know. Shut the fuck up, stop being a bitch. The bigger nigga came in here, pushed you out the way, and just fucking accept it because we need all this money, nigga. All this money is mine, nigga. Shut the fuck up. That's what he she's saying, bro. I don't give a fuck. Nobody can ever convince me different of that, fam. Where's the one third of the followers come in now? Because uh it said it on there, America's uh God Talent got six million followers. Yeah, this nigga has or six million viewers per episode. This nigga got two point eight million followers every day. So every reel you drop, you're dropping it, and you have the potential of 2.2 million people seeing it every day. These niggas only air however many episodes per year. If you make it per every episode, it's six million per episode. Or 4.5 to 6 million per episode, they got viewers. So you got a third of that every day. You could just drop some shit and you already have a third of their fucking viewership, fam. Which is crazy. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:32

Yeah, I kind of see what you're saying, but like to want to put a cap on the body people that could see this nigga is crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:38

It's not wanting to put a cap. I'm just saying don't fucking gaslight me and act like I'm fucking tripping for saying nigga, you don't necessarily need to do that, is what I'm saying. True. You're doing it and you're pushing somebody that's crazy who doesn't have the.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:51

I think he does need to be he's four thousand, he's four million followers short. Compared to that.

SPEAKER_13 1:51:57

Whatever businesses you got going on, I need to be a part of because you clearly even against the bread. I'm damn every dollar.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:02

I need every fucking put the money in the bag.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:04

Hold on, real quick, real quick, because we clearly we can't do nothing else after this. But Keys, bro, he's got like two minutes, nigga. What you think?

SPEAKER_06 1:52:12

On the the LaRusso thing, yeah. The whole thing, fam. Um, I think he is smart as fuck for that, to be honest with you. Like, no, it is if your goal is to just keep compiling people to see your shit. That's a fucking genius way to do it. But I definitely see what you're saying. It is like, it's like um I don't know. There is a push out of the way if you have that much resources and shit going on. But like at the same time, it's like we all have the same 24 hours in the day. Like, you know what I mean? But that 50-year-old girl, she ain't have 32 years or however old LaRussell is. We do not all have the same 24 hours in the day.

SPEAKER_13 1:52:46

That is not real life. Yeah, that's not real life. That's not real life.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:48

But we do have the same start to decisions we make.

SPEAKER_13 1:52:51

Yeah, like yeah, someone had a decision to drive from Tennessee, her mom took her to the thing, and then LaRussell pulled up, and then they were like, damn, sorry, little girl, you can't go nowhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:02

Like they fair, bro. That's just bad luck. Like I said, better luck next year. Hope this nigga don't show up.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:08

LaRussell was there purposely. That's not luck. That's a fucking I don't believe made by somebody else, nigga. Yeah, like nigga, if a nigga came to shoot me and then I just so happen to actually catch the bully he gave for me. That's not bad luck, nigga. He came to fucking shoot me, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:23

He didn't he didn't go there with the intention. Like, I'm this person.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:29

Do you think what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06 1:53:31

No, it wasn't a specific, it was everybody else in the that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:34

There is no other way to put the intention except for nigga. Hey, I am that's like me showing up to a tent competition.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:42

Hey, I'm sorry, but all y'all finna lose. It gotta be a lot. It would have to be like that. That he's here, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm coming to body all of y'all. I don't care that I'm already I've been tinting for fucking 10 plus years. Nigga, if I show up at this tent competition, y'all should have just just hope I don't show up next year.

SPEAKER_13 1:54:03

You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I feel like we we talking about like a tent competition is is so different from American. It's so different. Got talent.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:12

I think it is. And so the the bodybuilding is way different too, nigga, because that literally on somebody that we're talking entertainment and numbers and viewership to somebody literally being super disciplined and changing their body composition. Now that we're talking about two completely different fucking like that's not even close to the same. You really we like he made a good point with the Arnold Schwarzenegger shit. Yeah, or Terry Cruz or something pop up. A little nobody ass up. But it's still even then you could work your ass off and still do that, and you can still do that just off the body, just off the work, you can still compete with them niggas. So it's not the same in the entertainment business when there's nothing you can do if you don't have 2.2 million followers to fuck with LaRussell at a competition. There's nothing, there's absolutely nothing you're gonna do, fam. Yeah, you can be better than him. No, nigga, there's no there's no being better than the nigga. You are more eyes, you make more sense for business, nigga. Yeah, and you have more shit, nigga. Yeah, I can't bring if I'm the same.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:11

So what you're saying is basically it all boils down to politics. That's what I'm saying. It is when it comes to that, yeah. When it comes to that, it is politics. That you can agree on America's got to. I can agree with the fact that maybe in the background they're they're like uh politics, nigga. You know what I mean? But that's what he said that in the beginning.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:28

What he was saying, nigga.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:29

They was like, LaRussell, they said oh, he's here, move. We good, bring him in here. It's gonna be better for our views, we're all gonna make more money. We gotta bring him in there. Yeah, I can agree with that, which is unfair shit. Yeah, yeah. So more of the story, LaRussell, come to the podcast. We gotta mop you for stealing that little girl opportunity, so you're getting your ass beat. We need some uh political exposure.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:50

But uh, yeah. Little bullshit. No, I'm just and I'm just saying, bro, I this is my point, bro. This is just to wrap it up for me. For my y'all can, you know, if you got something else say, but for me to wrap it up, nigga. I definitely see why he would do that. I'm not saying it's stupid, I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying I know for a fact somebody went there. The little the little fucking made-up girl we made, and I I I'm I'm taking it that he may came up with that example because that's what the fuck is on America's got talent. It'd be little kids, it'd be little kids from Tennessee singing with that guitar. Nigga, that's another thing. That's another thing to get on those talent shows. I know this for a fucking fact, my nigga. I know this for a fact because I went and sat in an American Idol audition line with one of my people, and when they went through the whole audition, the first thing they ask you is, what do you have going on in your life that's gonna be interesting for the show?

SPEAKER_13 1:56:41

Yep, they all walk through the hug.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:43

Nobody who goes through America's Got Talent, nobody nigga is going to fucking win if you don't got somebody that has cancer, your mom died, or something fucking happened, nigga, and you can look it up, nigga. Prove me wrong. I'm fucking more than happy to fucking be proven wrong. You're not winning that shit unless you have a fucking sad story, bro. Thousand percent. La Russell's story at this very moment is not a sad story. Damn near not at all, nigga. Your story is actually really fucking cool, nigga. Right, you got parents who believed in you and put everything behind you from their backyard, my nigga. Your fucking story is very much minuscule privileged, my nigga. Like, and that I'm just saying that for as a big fact. And we're not hating on that. Hey, don't still agree. You do your shit, you rap, and you took advantage of the opportunities you had. Much love to you, fam. Yeah, but at the end of the day, fam.

SPEAKER_13 1:57:32

Lil' Nancy from Finna.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:33

Push some motherfucker who went on there with like, my mom has cancer and she drove me here for she has chemo tomorrow. She has to drive back and leave me here. I gotta sting. They're like, Yeah, bitch, whatever. LaRussell showed up.

SPEAKER_13 1:57:43

Right. Like that's what you're doing. What advice, bro? Well, her mom in the cut just passing out, bro. You know what I'm saying? He fucking hurt do it for the bag, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:55

Let these niggas tell y'all, man. If her mom could drive all the way from Tennessee to fucking savage, nigga. Hey, but hey, Seuss, thank you very much for being on the pod, bro. This is a whole in my opinion. Heck, heck might possibly feel the same way as one of the most lit episodes we've had. That's real fuck.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:20

Hey, yeah, we was gonna shout out to the uh girl with the mom that's over there. Hey, we love you, little Tennessee, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:29

Uh but yeah, bro. Big shout out to you. Keep doing everything that you're doing, man. Keep uh, you know, being the most known, unknown motherfucker in the city.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:38

And uh, you know, uh, it's it's a pleasure to be around you and to just move around you, and you know, it's a pleasure to be around.

SPEAKER_14 1:58:46

Every time I've looked you up when we've played one of your songs, it's fucking terrible because I'll be trying to put the picture of niggas up on the uh thumb. Fuck you, bro. We got a picture of you. Yeah, now we got it. We got him.

SPEAKER_13 1:58:59

Hey, for real. Bruce Wayne never showed his identity, did he? Facts, facts. It is what it is. Hey, go get y'all windows tenant. You know what I'm saying? Go get your windows tenant. Hey, he said he looked at some pubs. Hey, talking about dogs. I'll at me. Hey, we be an uptime, we be everywhere. Catch us outside.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:18

Shout out to Big Keeve in the back, too, bro. Key, let's go, man. Superstar. All right, so that concludes this episode of the R414 Podcast brought to you by Illy, Street Team Hectic, the R414 Media Studio, and our guest for episode 49, Hey Zeus. Amen. Let's go. If you haven't already, we encourage you to take a moment to subscribe to our channel, like this video, and leave us a comment about the topic that interests you the most. Thank you for watching and come back for the next episode of the R414 Podcast.

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