All 414 All Podcast Episode 45 W/ Cristvno

Episode 45 Cristvno delivers a perfect display of his vocals and songwriting skillset! We then talk his beginnings and progress in the city as an R&B artist! Then we talk how to not suck at performing and if the city participates in a lot of the clicking up culture!!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_10 1:05

She's the finest woman out of stage. What I picked her out out of the tree. She got even better than she stays. I love the way she touched and talked to me. The type that ain't gonna make you win a free. With conversation that it's in my teeth. I think it's time to order time and shit locked in a free. Gotta kill the back. I've a question that we're gonna make it the best ever. I gotta hard time stage. Gotta do my best to keep this girl to come to. Yeah, I love this girl. And I suppose you love me to go. I've just been love you, girl. I've sponcu. You spot a love me, girl. You spawn love me. The skin is white as every. She whisper baby kid inside of me. I go wherever that you tryna be. I take a flight across the wall for your punishment. Apologies, I'm humble in a punishment. Cast the lick of this me, her conviction, just a mustard. She passed some mistakes, never taste the floor for my cuff. She put it up my cuffs. I've a quickest life and it's a consequence. But it's not like it's too up to get too bad. I gotta give a hair. I've a question if we're moving too fast. He's the best I ever had. I gotta hold it down to stage too. Gotta do my best to keep this girl so comfortable. Yeah, I love this girl, and that's why she love me too. I was gonna love you, girl. I was gonna love you. You was gonna love me, girl. You was gonna love me.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

Yeah. Let's go. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

Fire, bro. That shit was fucking fire.

SPEAKER_13 4:01

Thank you, guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

I think I can hear the ladies outside kicking the thumbnail. Thank you very much, guys.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Yeah, boy, stop.

SPEAKER_05 4:14

Fire. You wrote that? I wrote that, man. That was amazing.

SPEAKER_13 4:18

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

The lyrics in itself, just the lyrics itself was cold the way you wrote that.

SPEAKER_13 4:23

Oh man, I greatly appreciate that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 4:26

Let's go. Christiano with the upside down. A let's get in. Yeah, yeah. Chris Vino. Chris Vino.

SPEAKER_04 4:33

Mike Check. You now tapped into the R414 R podcast, where Hometown Artistry is supported, recorded, and awarded an interview from the number one platform in the city. Before we dive into today's episode, take a brief moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell so you can stay updated on future episodes as we continue bringing the truest talent our hometown has to offer. I am your host, the 414 Tycoon, more commonly known as Illy. And joining me as co-hosts is my lyrical brethren, the verbal executionists, Street Team Hectic. These episodes are brought to you out of the R414 All Media Studio. And behind the lens, we got SG Films. Joining us for episode 45, we got a Latino RB soul artist representing the 414, a fairly fresh and young talent, but immensely skilled in his lane. His light and savory vocals embody the phrase sweet nothings whispered in your ears. He's one of Sky Club ENT's very own Cristiano. Let's go.

SPEAKER_13 5:35

Thank you for having me, guys. Thank you for having me. That's what's happening. That's what he was over there practicing. He was oh man, man. That sounded good.

SPEAKER_04 5:48

Yeah, I don't like to stumble too much in them, you know, so like. But it's uh every week I try to, you know, um go through what an artist is uh doing, what they're about, just what they embody, you know, and it helps it helps you guys being so talented and you know being involved in so much that these come fairly easy with. Right.

SPEAKER_05 6:12

So you don't gotta exaggerate. Right. Do not you just gotta say what you what the truth is. Right.

SPEAKER_13 6:18

Well, thank you guys. I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

So so for me, bro, the reason I personally was super excited to have you on here is because um well, first of all, you didn't ask me. You was just you doing your thing, you know what I'm saying? And second of all, again, you were all doing your thing, so it was just like boots on the ground, you out at shows, I seen you here, I seen you there. Then I seen you outside of what I thought I would see you again in. I seen you at Hanner the first time, but messing with Ellie invited me, you went up, whatever. I w I was like, oh, that's super dope. And then I seen you at uh was it a bar fest?

SPEAKER_13 6:53

Yeah, it was a bar fest.

SPEAKER_05 6:55

And then you went up there and did your shit, and I'm like, oh I would have never even expected him to be.

SPEAKER_13 6:59

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 7:00

Yeah, not not that you couldn't be, it was more like uh I just wasn't expecting it, you know what I mean? So then when I seen you do your shit, I'm like, oh yeah, that's when I told you. I'm like, hey, I want you on the pod, bro. Like you you snap, fam. So you know, coming from somebody who loves being boots on the ground at all the events, just being in the area, fucking with the community, uh, I really appreciate that about your artistry. Oh man. And you the type of artist that I like to, you know, uh just to fuck with overall because like I said, you out here.

SPEAKER_13 7:27

So well, I'm glad we made this happen. I don't know if you mind me telling this story, but when you had seen me at Barfest or just outside, you're like, hey man, I'm gonna tap in with you. I don't want to talk business right now, I'm gonna hit you later. And I'm glad we were able to finally make it happen for sure.

SPEAKER_05 7:40

Yeah, you well, you know, because I remember I was gonna remember, but I just don't I I I've told so many people that because I don't like to uh be tipsy. Yeah, and then you know, because when you tipsy, you get ahead of yourself, bro. And I know that, so I'm like, I'm let's not talk about it right now. I just I'm gonna hit you up. You know what I mean? Like, I appreciate it. Because I'll definitely be tipsy, like, bro, we're gonna get you all next week. Also, dumb shit. They hit you up, like, hey, I'm tripping, bro.

SPEAKER_04 8:03

Like, don't even pay attention to that, man. Like, not me, bro. I can be not even tipsy, just regular life. I'll be like, Yeah, I'm gonna get to it next week. That's that nigga, I will forget.

SPEAKER_05 8:15

He said, Yeah, don't worry about this.

SPEAKER_04 8:17

This nigga hit me up about the internet right here. He's like, Hey, did you do that? I'm like, damn, I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 8:23

Well, you know what? Just speaking of being there at Barfest, it's just about just like literally taking any opportunity you see for a while there. I had no shows lined up, and really what I had to do was just be so active on social media and just whenever somebody would post something, DM them, ask them to perform, and then it just turned into people starting to invite me to things. And uh um, yeah, I'm super grateful for that. And that kind of like taps into something I want to talk a little bit more about later, but just how supportive people have been with including me um in different events and different things to that nature.

SPEAKER_05 8:51

Yeah, no, facts. Um that's that's something I personally, like I said, the reason I like your artistry as much as I do and have is because of that reason, and because I come from that background. You know, I'm if it's if there's anything anybody can say about me is I'm going to anywhere I can be at, fam. I'm up in there like by myself with 30 people, 10 people. It's just I'm there, fam. You know what I mean? And that got me a lot of I don't want to use the word notoriety, but I mean I can't think of any other word, but it got me a lot of notoriety amongst the the hometown artists, the hometown promoters. They know that I'll show up, they know I'll do it, and they know I got work, bro, because you're always seeing me. So you know I got work, I got something to present to somebody if you see me all the time, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't always work out, but overall, it it's something that people should definitely have on their checklist of uh abilities to do to be a super dope artist, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 9:45

And you know that if if you stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready. You know, so the fact that you're always, you know, I guess available and you know, you're brushing up on your craft all the time, and you know, whenever you see something coming up, you take the initiative to reach out and let them know, like, hey, you know, if this if if your set list is not full, I'm available. You know, because there's so much that goes into putting all these shows together that you're kind of eliminating a little bit of the work for some of these people who like you know, you're just taking a little bit of weight off of their shoulders, you know, which is a good thing. I I hope more artists do that. You might not get every opportunity, but at least you put it out there 100%.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

Yeah, like he's saying, I didn't think about it like that. You're saying like from a media standpoint, yeah. Like you make our job easier, because I didn't have to go out my way to be like, well, who's the hottest neck singer out in the city? As opposed to I just walked in somewhere and that's one of the hottest neck singers out of the city. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 10:53

Yeah, well, you know, I think fucking great you know what they say, like, especially with basketball, even like you know, the best ability is availability, um, and just kind of being being present.

SPEAKER_05 11:03

Drop the bomb.

SPEAKER_13 11:05

And uh, you know, another another thing that can't I feel like not to be dropping all types of quotes and stuff like that intentionally. Just like I think somebody said, you know, um, luck is when opportunity meets preparation, yeah, and just kind of be in there. Um, and I'm just trying to put myself in those positions because um I feel like if you're you know, if you're not present, um, it's really hard for things to kind of work out the way you want them to. Like I feel like for a long time I was thinking, oh, I'm talented, I'm writing, you know, I'll I'll make it someday. But eventually I was like, no, I have to be present, I have to be working hard, I have to be getting my reps in, and I have to be um out there um for people to even know that there's talent to be to be experienced. And so um I kind of let go of um some of the ego and the pride that comes with not wanting to see yourself fail or not wanting to take risks and just uh um taking those risks and getting out in front of people and and just hoping for the best. And that's put me in positions that you know I get to be here today just because I get to meet people like you just by showing up.

SPEAKER_04 12:02

Right. Facts. Let's run that back. Luck is where opportunity and preparation meet. Yeah, let's that's you heard it here, Cristiano.

SPEAKER_13 12:13

Not me, but somebody said it. Somebody smarter than me said it. Yeah, it's you today.

SPEAKER_05 12:17

Yeah, yeah. Slash Cristiano. No, but uh uh I think people sleep on the fact that simply getting on any stage or even recording your music, and they're like, that's a lot to do from a person who's giving it out to somebody. I'm just gonna get on stage and do this thing that I might have prepped for, might have not, might have, you know, either way you had to do something to make a song or perform it. So you're on stage giving that to somebody. It's not a how do you I'm I I don't even think I'm saying it right, but it's not something that's expected of you. It's something you're doing. Hey, I'm gonna give this, going out of your way. I'm going out of my way to prepare this music and give it to you and get on stage and show it to you, you know. So I think people sleep on that, bro. So just just doing that alone, you you're a step ahead, you know what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

But also that ain't the end of the work for some people, you know what I'm saying? Because just because you fucking made the song and you know, you go up on stage, you know, like he said earlier, you gotta put in the reps, practice, you know, all day every day because the people get on that stage all day, every day without fucking practicing, and uh they just they make them they make a fool out of themselves, basically, you know, and the it's not the crowd's fault that you didn't practice, and you know, it's your fault that you didn't put the reps and put the time um and put the care and and the initiative in it. I did that one time, bro.

SPEAKER_05 13:47

It was a uh it was a situation where they and it's somebody who was on the show before I had to show with them at Summerfest and shit. And they did some goofy shit, bro, and had me they they pissed me off so bad that when I got on stage, I wasn't prepared enough to get over the fact I was mad and I fucked my setup. And the people watching they didn't notice. But I noticed because I fucked like two whole versions of it, because I was just pissed where I was like mad, I got on stage mad, bro, and it was like the crowd could have been 10 10x, bro. Yeah, but the way they set it up, they had they fucked me up, you know what I'm saying? But I wasn't prepared enough. Like you said, it's not the crowd's fault, and it's not the promoter's fault. You know, sure they had a hand in me getting mad and shit, yeah. But I wasn't prepared enough. I just I didn't prepare, I thought I had it, I wanted to be cool, and it didn't work out like I thought, so then I fucked my setup. So definitely add practice to the repertoire, though.

SPEAKER_13 14:35

Oh, for sure. And I had talked to I was at a the summer solstice fest thing that was going on uh on the east side. But they had a nice ass stage this man. And uh they had a couple Milwaukee artists, and I gotta chop it up with one of them, and I was just kind of asking him for some advice, and he was literally just like, Man, just practice stuff so much that it's just second nature, and you could be nervous, you could be upset, you could be having a bad day, and it just it'll just come out like instinctually just because you've practiced it so many times.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

Yeah, or even like you know, you could just be at like a random place. Like the other day, we were here doing some shit in the studio. Uh Hex cousin was here, and he's like, Oh, you're a rapper. And I'm like, Yeah, he's like, spit some shit. Yeah, just he's just kidding, but like he was like, shit, I'm raping. Yeah, I fucking gave him a verse right off the top of the dome.

SPEAKER_13 15:20

Oh, you gotta be able to do that for sure.

SPEAKER_04 15:21

You know, and then once that happened, he was like, Oh shit, like you rap rap. Oh, yeah, yeah. But like that changes the perspective of how people see you, you know what I'm saying? Because they're like, Oh, you sing, everybody sings, but if you're willing to sing like a spot, it'd be like, oh, you sing sing. Oh, you sing, sing, right?

SPEAKER_13 15:39

And that confidence is everything, man. Just like no, I mean, because I I used to be one of those people who like, if it wasn't something set for me to perform, yeah, I'd be a little uncomfortable performing for somebody, especially when somebody would randomly be like, oh, we'll do it right now. Um, but now I'm just like, it's it does suck, but you know what? I've learned to enjoy it and appreciate it because I'm like, you know what, here's another opportunity for me to show myself to somebody who's never heard me before, and they might become a new fan. You never know.

SPEAKER_05 16:03

You know what, bro? Oh, they're definitely gonna become a fan. I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start taking that in consideration because I'd be like, fuck you, I'm not really right. But think about this.

SPEAKER_04 16:11

Think about think about how many times even in a week, you know, people might be out and you get to see somebody perform on the spot in front of you. Yeah, it's very rare. So when you do see it, you're like, oh shit, something crazy happened. You know, like that shit you go talk to people about.

SPEAKER_05 16:33

See, but but to your point, I feel like uh the not not a difference. I'm not gonna call it a difference, but I feel like the distinction between a rapper and a singer, somebody who just can you know you can sing, you got a nice voice. You literally don't have to say nothing. Right. You literally could just ooh I uh you literally don't have to say no words, nigga. You it's an instrument. Your voice is the instrument that God gave you, and you figured out how to fine-tune it and used it to your advantage, bro. You literally don't have to say nothing. You could just can you sing? Yeah, I can sing. We'll sing something then, and you could just vowels, nigga. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, you can't you just that's all you gotta do, bro.

SPEAKER_13 17:13

Start doing warm-ups in front of something.

SPEAKER_05 17:18

Oh, what is it? Fa sole, ray me down. I forgot I forgot already, man. I've been out of school so long. Dol Ray Me Fasolai, yeah. So you know, yes, you know, but that that's just the distinction. This doesn't take away from you wanting to have something prepared, but you could, if you wanted to, just yeah, I'll just fucking vocalize, and you're gonna like that shit. Yeah, we have to like really have words. Oh, you're a rapper? Rap. I want to hear metaphors, pop-a-e-o-e. Yeah, you can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

I'm rapping for you.

SPEAKER_05 17:47

You can't do that, nigga. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, but that's why I'm just like, nah, bro. Uh and you know, I I'm you know, I'm getting older and shit. And that's just like, bro, I'm not rapping on the spot for you. I'm fucking tap dancing and shucking and driving shit for a nigga. Oh, you rap, rap right now, nigga. No, nigga, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_13 18:03

Yeah. Well, for a while there, I was saying with any performance, like there'd be some performances where like it'd be at a certain venue, it'd be with a certain promoter. And I'm just like, man, this really isn't my scene. Like, this isn't the this isn't the ideal scene, but I'm like, you know what? I had to kind of just like tell myself humbly, like, I'm not above anything right now. So let's just let's just get out there. You just never know who you'll meet, you'll never know what will become of something. And now I see people all the time that I know from this one little thing that I didn't even want to go to, and now they're it's all love, you know what I mean? And I and it turned into something else right after that.

SPEAKER_04 18:33

Facts, facts, and like you gotta think too, like how many people, you know, you might not want to be there, and then there's probably somebody in the audience that also don't want to be there, and they're probably feeling like, man, this shit is not my scene. And then you get up there, you're like, oh man. I think this might be my scene.

SPEAKER_13 18:51

I was just about to say if he's here and I you know well, one time I went to this one place and it was in like an area I wasn't too familiar with, and it was with a vibe. I mean, it was really all just like the type music. And I was like, I like that music. I will vibe to it. I'll just be there just chilling, enjoying myself, but I don't know that I'm gonna fit into what they're expecting. Yeah, the lineup is a little different, and I'm just like, and they're all vibe and they're all turnt, and I'm like, oh, I'm about to slow this shit the fuck down. And I'm like, I hope that they're cool with it. And you know what? Surprisingly, people actually find it very refreshing for somebody to come up there and do something different.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

And not even something different, bro. You're offering, bro, RB vocalist singing, bro. It's for the bro, it's for the females, bro. Anything that moves the females moves everybody, man. I don't give a fuck with nobody saying, yeah. I'm not gonna be mad at you for getting all the females into some shit at the for the night. You know what I'm saying? I I brought you here because I knew I knew that guy was young, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like, this is for you, baby. You know what I'm saying? Like, I told you we were gonna be turned up, but I got you, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 19:56

So nobody's gonna, you know, like well, you know, the females will help a ton, especially for me again in those environments where I'm not sure if I'm gonna be everybody's flavor. You just hear that first, okay. And all of a sudden it's just like, oh, all right. Well, that kind of builds me some confidence up, and I feel like a little bit more loose after that.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

Got that shit, bro. Then he be taking off his shirt and the abs be out.

SPEAKER_13 20:16

Oh man, no, never at a performance, man. Never at a performance.

SPEAKER_05 20:22

You better than me, darling. When I get a chance, I'm like. This nigga illie just gonna be rapping. My city fuck with me the long way.

SPEAKER_13 20:31

It's gonna be the 50 cent where it just gets pulled off you.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

That's crazy. No, but uh, so let's talk a little bit about the catalog, man. You got the new um what's the latest? Go ahead and introduce the latest uh album you put out.

SPEAKER_13 20:47

Yeah, so this um it's a little EP. Um, it's kind of my debut EP. I released it on my birthday, December 24th. I'm a Christmas Eve, baby. Okay. And uh it was uh my son's birthday. Oh, really? Oh man, y'all don't mean that. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 20:59

My son's the 25th, I'm the 26th. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_13 21:02

So we all around that Christmas time. Three days in a row. Yeah. Um, and uh, yeah, so I mean it was like kind of like a gift, a birthday gift to myself, a Christmas gift to myself to finally release something officially. Um that's not just a single and kind of like a coherent, cohesive project. Um and it's seven songs that I kind of recorded with Sky Club, and you know, um, they've been helping me with the engineering, mixing, mastering side of things for a long time, even some production with when it comes to certain tracks. Um, and yeah, it was just all of my favorite ones that I had made for like six months and um just kind of put it in the order that we all thought it would, you know, it would work with. And uh it's called running out of time. The reason why I called it running out of time is because I felt like, hey, I'm I'm only getting older and I feel like I've been procrastinating, putting myself out there with music for so long. I'm really running out of time. But also in the album cover or EP cover, it's a picture of me running in a blur past the the the picture frame, the photo frame. And so it was kind of like a double entendre of me running, let's go, chasing, but also running out of time as time is. You know, is w dwendle and army. Right.

SPEAKER_05 22:02

Like I this is this is what we do it for, y'all. I just want you, I'm just you are very uh well spoken, thank you, articulate, bro. You know what you're talking about, you put your shit, you put your thoughts together well. Thank you. This is why I do this, bro. I'm glad. Like, you know, because I could have been like, hey man, I seen you sing, come to the pod, and you come on to be like, Yeah, you know I sing. Yeah, yeah, so what's up with the you know? So I was singing and then I sang, and you know I'll be singing. You know what I mean? Like, no, that's dope, bro. That's I love the whole concept, and I'm gonna put the picture of the project up too.

SPEAKER_13 22:32

Okay, but so we can everybody can see what you was talking about. No, I love that picture. Actually, for uh for um for Christmas, um, somebody had gifted me uh a picture of like the album with my whole little parental advisory at the bottom and stuff, and I got it up in my office right now. I'm so proud of that picture, man. So I'm I'm proud of everything. So I mean it's it's kind of it's gonna hold a special place in my heart forever for sure. Being my first.

SPEAKER_10 22:55

So don't be on first. I'm impatient. I'm first day a lot.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

One thing that was dope for me was uh you got a song on there called Sangre. Yeah. Um, and you're singing in Spanish and English, yeah, on the record, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:23

What's your ethnic what's what's your ethnic ethnicity?

SPEAKER_13 23:25

I'm a Mexican or Puerto Rican. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and yeah but that song specifically, you know what? It's actually funny because I feel like this all kind of like is like a full circle moment with that song. That was the first song I ever released with any sort of Spanish in it at all. And so I'm writing, but I'm also kind of like just like taking risks with like, okay, I don't know how exactly this is gonna translate because Spanish is not my first language. I grew up speaking English, and it wasn't until I became an adult that I started speaking Spanish for at work. For I'm a personal trainer and I do real estate as well. And so I had Spanish-speaking clients, and I'm like, I can't not speak Spanish, or I'm not gonna be able to tap into a demographic that I want to work with. My parents speak Spanish.

SPEAKER_05 24:05

If they spoke to you in Spanish, you just didn't speak Spanish.

SPEAKER_13 24:07

No, they didn't speak to me in Spanish at all because my mom's no sabo. I'm a no sabo, a hundred percent. And so I had I had my mom come from um oh for real, and it's great, not not proud to say it, but we learned it a little bit more every single day. I had my mom come from Mexico when she was 18. And she only wanted to speak English because she wanted to learn English, and so she only spoke English with us, and you know, now her English is like you know perfect, and she's doing her jobs with business and stuff like that. She's a alone officer, and so she's constantly speaking English, but also speaking Spanish with her for work. But with us at the house, it was always English. And my dad, born in Milwaukee, even though he's Puerto Rican, only mainly speaks English and stuff like that, too. So I never learned it. I had to go and learn it myself by just talking to people and fucking up and that's that's dope as hell that you can that you went and did that.

SPEAKER_05 24:50

Yeah, like I had to reteach myself. Like I spoke Spanish first before I spoke English, and then I learned how to read and write and talk, and I just said, fuck Spanish, nigga. I just right away. As soon as I learned how to read and all that, I was like, Yeah, I just my mom was still talking to me in Spanish, though at home, that's why I asked. Yeah, but yeah, I just stopped, and then I had to reteach myself. So, and that's hard, and I knew it. So I know it's it's uh your your mental is on point for that, bro, to grow up and be like, I want to learn Spanish, bro.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Yeah, it was exactly the same for me. You know, my mom speaks Spanish, uh, she's fluent in both English and Spanish. She used to work at Yumos for majority of our like um.

SPEAKER_13 25:26

Well, y'all might know my y'all might know my pops. My pops worked at Yumos for a sh a a short time, way back in the day, though. His name was Frankie Rivera. You guys ever heard of him before? Name sounds familiar. That's mom, yeah, because she might have worked with him at some point. She probably does know him. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:39

She worked there for like 20 years or something.

SPEAKER_13 25:41

Oh wow. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:43

Um, but yeah, and then I used to work at Yumos as well. Oh wow. And then that's what when I started working, well, actually, I had to learn Spanish first when I worked at UCC. Oh. I was one of the residential uh treatment center um staff for like the AODA houses, alcohol and drug abuse houses. So um a lot of the guys that that were there mostly Spanish speaking, you know, they would come out of jail, you know, be doing their uh rehab program and stuff like that. And the only way I could communicate with these guys through the day to let them know, like, hey, it's time for you to, you know, um has it on schedule, you gotta start dinner now or you gotta take your meds and was to speak learn Spanish and then tell them the Spanish, you know. So I had to try learning Spanish there. Um I got pretty decent and then ended up losing that job, you know, working somewhere else, but I stopped speaking Spanish. So then I it kind of like fell from me. And then I got a job at Yumos and then um had to learn Spanish again because I was dealing with a a lot of Spanish speaking. You know, so um and at that place I ran the food pantry um to learn Spanish for a good amount of like it was like three years I was working there. Um and then the same thing, once I left there, um, but that that time I had left by choice, you know, to pursue music. And then I stopped speaking Spanish, you know, and then recently I also dropped uh I've done two Spanish songs so far. You know, so you got more Spanish songs than me, sure. Yeah, you know, so I definitely know, and that's why I brought that song up because um I felt like I could hear what I was going through when I made my Spanish song. Oh yeah, yeah, 100%. Like there's there's certain things you're saying that like you know you're saying it right, and you know you're saying it properly, you know those phrases, and there's certain things you're saying where I tell y'all a story, like you're learning it.

SPEAKER_13 27:46

This is how I met Joey, Joey D, by the way. Yeah, um shout out to Joey D, man, coming on films. Yeah, he uh he had came up to me after I was done performing. He was taking pictures that night, and um I had got done performing, and he's like, Man, I think you're dope. I got this event that I run once a month. I'd love to get you up on stage and and and perform for me. And he was like, blah blah blah blah. And I was like, Oh, thank you, man. He's like, No, no, no, no, I'm not done. I'm not done. Also, that one song that you had in Spanish, he was like, it sounded good up until you said that bullshit ass word. I had said, I said, fucking joke. I said clue based and he he was like, he's like, man, don't make up shit because people are gonna clown you, especially when you start getting the Spanish speaking community, they're gonna clown you. And I was like, all right, doy know. Oh, that's facts.

SPEAKER_05 28:32

Doulie know be like, what hey man, what the fuck is a clue bas, man?

SPEAKER_13 28:35

And he was telling me you can say it this way, you can say it this way, but don't make up some shit.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

I was like, you know, that's crazy that you said that, bro, because that's that's hilarious, bro. He said, Hey bro, don't do that, bro. On the movie set, bro, yeah. I'm on there with Xavier, right? And bro, I I'm so he's sorry you're gonna find out on the pod, but I'm gonna call him before this comes out. So, bro, he was on there, bro, and he was like the the Southside plug or whatever, that was his character shit. And he on there, you know, talking shit, you know, meet up on yeta. He starts the first thing, meet up on that, you know, and then he's like, I gotta worry about your phone and shit, whatever, whatever. And then at the end, he was like, Oh, yeah, what you want? He's like, No, you know, I'm about to go to my mom's later and shit. She's about to be cooking that rock on beachuelos. And I was like, but I was nigga, I was only there for like 20 minutes, bro. You know what I'm saying? And then like they had that quiet on set, like it was a real ass movie set, and I just didn't want to be myself because that's you know me. I'd be like, Hey man, hold the fuck up. You know, yeah, but I didn't. They was shooting and they was going back and forth, you know, take two, take three, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I didn't want it, like, and I wanted to so bad, like, hey bro, you saying it wrong, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I couldn't stop. And I'm sorry, Xavier, bro. Hopefully, if that line makes it in there, they gonna they're gonna be like, what the fuck this nigga talking about? He was like, Yeah, you know, I'm going by mom's how she gonna make that o'clock beach well. Then I'm like, nah, nigga, you forgot the whole I beach well out there.

SPEAKER_13 29:55

No, I need the for me personally, I need those hard stops. Like, if I'm not saying something right, tell me right away. And when I have my clients too who only speak Spanish, they'll tell me, Oh, that's not the way people say it. Or like, you know, yeah, we have a different word that we use for that more commonly. And I'm like, tell me right away. I'm open to being corrected every single time.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:13

When I wrote mine, I had uh I was kind of going back and forth with like Google Translate and stuff like that, you know.

SPEAKER_13 30:20

So yeah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

You know, it sounds good when I'm saying it and stuff, and then when I like you said, show it to Spanish Spanish speakers, they're like, uh, what you talking about here?

SPEAKER_13 30:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:32

No, but uh real quick before we move on, nigga. All I'm saying is, since you are Mexican and Puerto Rican, we got one in the RB world, let's go. Nah, just talking shit. You know, I was happy about that, fam. We got one in the RB world, fam. Where what side of the town are you from?

SPEAKER_13 30:52

Uh I'm I grew up kind of around the state fair park area. So south side, though. Oh yeah, I grew up anything south of fucking Blue Mount, nigga. We are everywhere, yeah. I've been all over Milwaukee, though. No, yeah, let's go.

SPEAKER_04 31:05

Yeah, but it's uh great EP, man. Um so thank you, man. I appreciate it. I congratulate you on that. It's uh I listened to it while I was at the gym where I listened to most of my music and keep the vibe going.

SPEAKER_13 31:17

Yeah, well thank you.

SPEAKER_05 31:18

I just like your uh the tone of your your your the way you carry your verses and your voice, bro. It's uh like I don't necessarily you don't belt you're more of like a down here, yeah, you know, but you it should valley, bro.

SPEAKER_13 31:33

Well, no, I'm I'm I'm gonna be um I don't know if this is a a good time to plug this, but I uh I'm gonna be at um Summerfest performing for um MK Live Group. I don't know if it'll be probably before this comes out. Yeah, it might be um but uh it's gonna be just in case, anyways, uh Thursday, June 18th from noon to 2 45 p.m. And we're performing with a live band. We have a bassist, a pianist, um, and a guy on the drums. And it's gonna be and they're amazing. And um I put out a little video kind of like teasing one of our rehearsals and stuff like that, just so people can kind of see, you know, get you know interested in maybe wanting to come just by seeing kind of how the rehearsals are going. And I literally told them keep my stuff super like jazz lounge, nightclub, um, but like more like smoker cigar lounge type thing, um, because uh for me my voice is very soft and sultry. Um, and so I'd like my instrumentation to be very uh slow and uh kind of intimate as well.

SPEAKER_04 32:26

That's the word I was looking for when I put the uh intro together. I was like light and savory. But it's like I like sultry though.

SPEAKER_13 32:36

It's like a it's like a savor reminds me of like a steak sizzling on a bit. That's what I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

I was like, all right, like his voice is like it's light, but if I could think of how like he layers it, it it'd be like gravy or like you know, yeah, it's like gravy savory, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:53

Hey man, bitches won't eat me up and they're not savory.

SPEAKER_04 32:57

Fuck that.

SPEAKER_13 32:58

Oh man, I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

All right, well, let's roll into another song of yours, bro.

SPEAKER_05 33:04

All right, man, let's go. This is uh Cristiano House of Cards remix. Yeah, let's go.

SPEAKER_10 33:43

Don't you just if we both just go forward again?

SPEAKER_04 34:01

No, just the one you talk about.

SPEAKER_09 34:05

If they make another fucking shade to gray, this thing is gonna be a few.

SPEAKER_10 34:42

And my boys don't have the precious to discover.

SPEAKER_05 35:19

Oh hell no, he tripping back. Nah, you dripping, bro.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

Hell no. They can pull the abs out. The aesthetics, he's probably cutting about four months before his video, bro. He played his video four months out to have that body structure, bro.

SPEAKER_13 35:44

I had a whole prep, a whole prep for it.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

They can do the whole prep just for this video. That shit hard. That's a 12-week prep body right there.

SPEAKER_13 35:59

Bro, I'm gonna say that every time I talk about this.

SPEAKER_05 36:02

I'm not gonna lie, bro. I'm not gonna lie, though, bro. You do it, that's what you're supposed to be on. Yeah, you got the voice, you got the look. That's what you're supposed to do, fam. Yeah, appreciate it. If I would be just like that, if I was looking like that, bro, and I could sing, bro. It I'd every video would be every fucking video, nigga. You couldn't stop me. They'll be like, hey, we tired of this thing. You'll never see this thing with brain again. Yeah, ever, bro. Hair down, bro. Just hair down, just straight up, man. That shit crazy. No, no, you snap though, thank you. So, real quick, while we're on the the record though, yeah. You wrote that too.

SPEAKER_13 36:34

I wrote that as well.

SPEAKER_05 36:35

So, do you write all your shit?

SPEAKER_13 36:36

Always, yeah. That's my that's my strong suit right there, is my writing. I'd say even more than vocals or anything like that is my my pen, you know, is what I really came strong.

SPEAKER_05 36:46

Yeah, no, that's what that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, you know, is he writing all this? Is this like, you know?

SPEAKER_13 36:51

Yeah, no, I mean, this is all straight from the heart. And when it, you know, I I when I first started writing music, I think I was so young I didn't have enough life experience to really write about anything meaningful. These days, man, every song you see that I come out with is about relatively with some embellishments here and there, yeah. Something going on in my life or something that I could, you know, represent from my life and stuff like that. So with this song, man, it came at a time where it was a you know a very emotionally vulnerable time, and I was like, let's make a visual representation of that emotional vulnerability that comes with love and that comes with taking a risk on love. That's cold.

SPEAKER_04 37:22

You know what I found cold about you know today's men RB singers? It's it's almost easy for y'all to make music nowadays because these bitches is ratchet. They be doing y'all wrong. Oh man.

SPEAKER_13 37:37

Yeah, no, it can be it can be that.

SPEAKER_04 37:40

We have a hella music, hella shit to talk about.

SPEAKER_13 37:43

Well, you know what with me, just like with the the song we started off, you know, the pod with just the born in love song, right? Um my my biggest thing and one of my messages when it comes to my music is I want RB to kind of be again, or at least within my own art, to be what it was at its roots, which was soulful and love, you know, and and romantic and um you know, just real and vulnerable still, not just like, hey, I'm gonna sing just to sing your panties off. I really want to talk to you, I want you to hear me, and I want you to feel understood, and I want to feel understood by you through my music.

SPEAKER_05 38:15

Yeah, but also I want the panties just just to put the emphasis on, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 38:23

But no, not just the toxic love, but kind of bringing the romantic love back a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 38:28

And I feel you because I am a fan of a lot of RB because of that. Yeah, you know, the or I said that wrong. I am a fan of a lot of the retro RB because of that, because you can't find a lot of that these days. So we're like, you know, I don't want to just be shitting on bitches. I I'm not the type uh guy who is like that anyway. Like I did definitely get in that bag where I'm like, fuck the fuck bitches, get money type, right? But overall, I love bitches, bro. I love I love women. Yeah, I love women a lot, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I love the whole uh the the process of courting women and you know getting a woman to like you back, and you know what I'm saying? Like when people make music like that, it's it's refreshing to me, especially because I like that. I don't I don't I'm not always on some tough game banging fucking you know, oh I'm masculinity, motherfucker. Let's go, you know. No, I'm trying to I'm trying you know, I'm on some T. I and uh damn, I forgot his name, the producer, Jazzy Faye. I'm chilling with my bitch today, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm I'm I'm with my chick, bro. Like and and I love that shit. I love the love my woman down. If you my woman, I love the whole aspect of the love between us, yeah. Yeah, I rock with that, and that that's what makes it appreciate the uh the writing and what you're what you're saying about it, bro. That's that's super dope. I fuck with it.

SPEAKER_13 39:47

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 39:48

Yeah, my um my biological father was actually an RB singer. By the time I got into like my love for RB, and you know, he him and his brothers uh actually used to do uh they had like a tribute, um like a tribute band to uh Earth Wind and Fire. And his brothers still perform um down in Vegas like regularly. Like they're called Serpentine Fire.

SPEAKER_13 40:16

That's a super badass name, too. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

And that's your uncle. Yeah, like your biological dad's brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 40:24

I mean, I yeah, I I definitely grew up with with it myself. My dad, my uncles listening to to RB all the time, um, especially like stuff from like the 90s and the 80s, um, because that's kind of like the when their time was. But also I I used to have a a friend who whose dad was like the coach of our basketball team when I was growing up really little. I'm talking about in like grade school, middle school. And every time we were in the car, we'd played jamming 98.3, and you know, I would listen to all of the you know the old records. And one of the songs that I remember kind of like, I feel like and this shaped kind of the way that I like make music and what my taste for music are uh are now and kind of have been for a long time is Let's Stay Together by Al Green. I feel like that song kind of like was like the the start of me being like, oh man, I want to sing because I want to sing this song, and I want to sing this type of music that gives me this feeling, and hopefully I can give other people this feeling as well.

SPEAKER_05 41:13

Let's go. Oh, because I was gonna ask, like, how did you so you you do it really just out of the love? Like you don't have anybody before you that would be.

SPEAKER_13 41:21

No, no, I do have people performing, and I definitely give them credit for my um my dad and my uncles and my grandpa, they're all salsa bands performing at church every Sunday. My grandpa and grandma still sing at church every single Sunday. Shout out to the church, bro. About that all the time here, bro. Yeah, they're they're uh Catholic Church, St. Michael's, um, and St. Rose, I think is where they're at now, but that's where they they were for a long time, and they sing at church every single Sunday. And so I come from a family of music. My my uncles, my dad, my grandpa, they can pick up literally, I feel like any instrument and just play it. Um, even if it's been a long time that they haven't been playing it, they're just so talented that way, way more than than I am. I'm practicing the guitar right now, but it's taking me a little while. I think I'm better at it. But that's because you can sing in songwriting part of things. Your instrument is from God, bro. Yeah, but no, they can all sing it. My my uncle is uh a guy named Junior Rivera, and he performs all throughout the city, Chicago, Milwaukee. He's gonna be at Summerfest himself. Um, and he's uh uh got his own salsa band called Junior Rivera and uh something like that. I feel like that's super familiar, bro. Like yeah, bald guy, beard, sing salsa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's amazing singer. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Did you ever um sing through church or anything like that?

SPEAKER_13 42:29

No, so yeah, I was I was never brave enough to really sing in front of anybody. I was like think I think I was a part of a choir for like a little bit um in school when I when I went to to grade school, but um I didn't really actually start performing until like this past year.

SPEAKER_04 42:44

This nigga went from being too shy to sing on stage to fucking take it butt naked on the fucking video.

SPEAKER_05 42:52

Took it too far, bro.

SPEAKER_13 42:53

No, it's an extreme. It's really it's really crazy. But I'm kind of that crazy, right? I'm I'm kind of that way, though. I'm kind of an all or nothing person. Oh, let's go.

SPEAKER_05 43:01

And I feel like that's what it takes for you to be creative, to be a creative musician in any aspect, bro. You gotta be all or nothing, bro. I I mean, at least if you want to uh make any stride with it.

SPEAKER_13 43:11

100%, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:13

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SPEAKER_13 43:58

Uh, yeah, you know what. Actually, I'm gonna shout out Sky Club again, even though I know they've been sh uh you know shouted out already. Um those are my guys, man. I got Dre Way, NFL C dub, Justin Skye, Milmatic the Cash Addict, who is is kind of like our leader in a sense. We call him Big Bro. Um, those are all my guys, man, and uh they have been the reason why I can even make music the way that I do. They've helped me mix master, they've been supportive. They showed up to shows when there was nobody out in the crowd and they were the only ones with their phones out, clapping, supporting, cheering, um, and just kind of pushing me to kind of be better and better. And so without those guys, I don't think I'd be um here, you know, with you guys today or or doing anything that I'm doing. I mean, they're the in that music video that you guys uh just had up, um, they were catching my clothes while I was throwing them off myself just so they wouldn't get fucked up. So if we had to do another take, my clothes wouldn't be all dirty because we were walking on the beach. We had one of my guys holding a light so that I could have that light and in the in the you know at the darkness of night. I had my other guy cue behind the camera. He did the videography for that video. Um, and then I had my other guy holding a speaker just so we could walk with the speaker and I could hear my own lyrics while I'm doing my video. I mean, so just that for example, like I couldn't do most of the stuff that I'm doing without them. So I want to give credit to them. I want to give credit to uh Papion. Papillon is uh a guy who does uh fashion locally. Um I've been seeing him quite lately. He runs a lot of events, he does a lot of promotion and stuff like that for his own music events, but um he's uh putting together a custom fit for me to wear at Summerfest. Um and so I'm super excited uh for my Born of Love song where I said Drake 2008, best I ever had. I'm gonna have a little uh Peanuts Brewers jersey that says 08, best I ever had on the back of it. Um and he's got got the whole fit for me, so I'm super excited about that. So I mean there's definitely some so many more people I could shout out, but those are the guys that come to mind immediately.

SPEAKER_04 45:42

Let's go shout out to shout out to the teams, man.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Like I was about to say, shout out to the teamwork, fam.

SPEAKER_04 45:46

Yeah, a lot of people don't realize how crucial having a team is, you know, especially for us, like SG, Letho, um, you know, Icon, uh GP, just guys like these that are in our situation. I'm sure Heck got the whole street team, you know, everybody that he's worked with, you know, like people don't realize how much behind the scenes stuff goes into um, you know, creating these uh buzzes that we're trying to create, or even the music that we're trying to put out. And you know, there's a lot of people, even though we're the f might be the face of whatever's happening at the moment, there's a lot of people we couldn't do this without.

SPEAKER_13 46:30

No, no, no way. And uh also I think um and this might come into play for some artists who I feel like kind of, you know, maybe started out with a team, but then they become like solo acts and maybe they're not like happy with their situation or they don't they're not very trusting of the people around them, especially in the music industry. I feel like it's sometimes feels like it's hard to trust people or get close to people because you never know what people's intentions are and stuff like that. For me, that's what makes it so gratifying to have such a good team around me, is because um it's not just like, oh, I'm gonna big myself up and not give nobody their credit for me. That takes away from the joy of these experiences and um the gratefulness that I have for where I'm at and how I got here. And you know, that that makes me happy doing music more than anything. Even if I never made it, I would be happy with just how many people have been there to support me and how many experiences I've enjoyed with the people around me.

SPEAKER_05 47:19

Man, I preach that shit all the time, bro. Because you know, that that's what really matters. You know, Pete, obviously you want to make the money, you want to go do some uh major things, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, when you settle down, you're probably gonna come home. Yeah. And these are the people that are gonna rock with you all the way. Even when you're not major, even when you're not doing that. This is a community that's gonna rock with you and where you're gonna have a fun time without having to be the number one billboard top charter. You know what I mean? You can just be you and you have a good time with your family and your community.

SPEAKER_13 47:50

So that's a big fact.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

And then there's the flip side of that, you know, a lot of people just wanna hang around an artist and not do nothing. You know what I'm saying? There's that side as as well. You know, the worst part, you were explaining, like, you know, everybody on your team, they're trying to do whatever they can to be a part and to help, you know what I'm saying? People out there catching your clothes, and you got one guy holding the light, and you know, you got the other guy holding the speaker, and the other guy with the camera, you know.

SPEAKER_05 48:21

Yeah, that's amazing. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 48:22

Yeah, you know, like there's uh there's teams out there where you know maybe one or two people on your team they feel like they can just be there mooching. You know what I'm saying? Like if you're a moocher on a team, you know, you're wearing your your clock is ticking. You know, you want to think they they gonna they're gonna figure it out.

SPEAKER_05 48:44

Well it never falls, it never uh it never finishes or you you can never follow through to the end of doing that, you know. You have to be some type of of uh addition to to what or not even addition, but you gotta be some type of support of in the system, family.

SPEAKER_04 48:59

You can't just Because eventually it outgrow you.

SPEAKER_05 49:01

Exactly. Well either either there's one or two things that are gonna happen. Either they're gonna fall off and then they're not gonna be able to even support you, so now you both put back in the trenches or like you said, they're gonna outgrow you and then what are you doing, family? What do you what value are you adding for? And I just feel like people just need to overall, not even music or just in in life, you need to have value just to survive, bro. You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 49:27

And I've always been one of those people who's a proponent of um if the people around you are winning, you're winning. And um, that applies to me too. Like I have those guys helping me out, but you know, at you know, at any call, I would love to be there to pay it right back and help them out with things that they're trying to accomplish and projects that they're working on. Um and that's just the type of team that we have where we're just willing to always be there for each other, get on each other's songs, push each other's songs, share each other's music. Um, you just you need those people around you, man. Because I mean, if you're just if you're trying to be an all-for-yourself type person, that that ceiling is super low. Yeah. Um and that path is very short. And so I'm I think uh um I I forgot exactly the way um somebody had put it one time, but um if you I think it says it says something like if you try to go fast, if you try to go alone, you'll go fast, but if you go with a team, you'll go further. Yeah, um, something like that. Um yeah, I don't know over here.

SPEAKER_05 50:22

Man, we out there, man. Listen, man. Two things I ain't never seen a turtle with speed and a bitch I need. Fuck out of here, dude.

SPEAKER_13 50:30

No, yeah, but that tortoise and the hair story, man, that that rings true to this day for me, man. So I'm just taking it one day at a time, one step at a time, and um trying to keep the right people around me and and and be around them as well and be there for them.

SPEAKER_04 50:41

If you're trying to go fast, go alone. If you're trying to go far, yeah, get your team. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that's what's up.

SPEAKER_05 50:49

You heard what I said, man.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

Well, uh, let's let's head into this interview portion. Uh, give us a summary of who you are and what you hope to accomplish through your artistry.

SPEAKER_13 50:58

Yeah, I would say that um outside of just being, you know, the title of RB Soul Um Latino, um, I'm 27 years old, um, and uh having my career as outside of music, um, I'm a very emotional, sensitive, vulnerable person who um has always struggled to kind of find a way to um, you know, my find my place, find my identity, find my voice. Um, and music has allowed me to do that. And so I am like eternally grateful to music, and music has probably been, you know, my first love and will kind of be the love of my life probably forever. And uh where I would hope to take this is just to a place where I can connect with as many people as possible who want to hear me and and who resonate with the the message of my music and the lyrics that I say and um enjoy it enough to play it, you know, when they're at the gym or when they're doing any sort of day-to-day task. If I could just be a part of people's life, that would be great because music is such a um important part of my life and not even just my own music, the music that I hear from so many other people, it it can make or break my day sometimes, you know, and uh it, you know, it can influence my day in a positive way or in a negative way. Music is so powerful. And so if I can tap into that power even just for a short amount of time, you know, that's super humbling, and that's uh something that I I hope to be able to achieve as a career and you know I can make money off of. And it doesn't even have to be that much money, it just has to be enough to support myself and support the people around me so that I can continue to do it without the stress of you know having to yeah, financially support myself and or or hold myself up in that way. Because I know that some people are going through that, and there are artists who um, you know, they call them starving artists and stuff like that. And you know, I want those people to be able to succeed as well so they can just focus on what they love and they don't have to worry about you know what they don't.

SPEAKER_04 52:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:40

It's such a hey man, hold on, hold on, hold the fuck up, bro. Get your fucking interview skills up, bro. Stop fucking playing with this nigga, bro. He ready, he fucking ready. I'm over here just like what the fuck he saying, like the perfect shit, fam. Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 52:57

But it's because uh, you know, a lot of people don't know what they want out of life. Nah, and you can tell a lot of people don't have a direction.

SPEAKER_05 53:03

Facts, and you can tell he like he knows exactly what he's on, bro. Like, thank you guys, man. I'm just I just had to shout that out, bro. Because I'm saying here he asked a question, he went in. I'm like, bro, he's saying everything perfectly, fam. And it's just I've yeah, I've had interviews before on my other podcast where I was like, hey man, I'm trying here. I've tried really hard to make this a dialogue, fam. You know, I've been talking for like 30 minutes, fam.

SPEAKER_13 53:25

Well, man, that applies to like everyday conversation too. Like, I try to not be a dry conversationalist. Yeah, and I think that that helps me kind of with stuff like this, is because on a day-to-day basis, when there's no cameras, there's no microphones, there's no headphones, I'm trying to have a good conversation with people all the time. Yeah, I'm trying to connect. And uh, y'all have created up the perfect space for that. So I appreciate you guys for giving me the space to be able to express myself.

SPEAKER_05 53:47

Shout out to you, bro. You the you the you making it happen, man. Like I didn't mean to cut you off, but I just had to stop and no, you're good, bro.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

I forgot what I was gonna say. Um, what is your RB origin story?

SPEAKER_13 54:02

Yeah, so I mean, just kind of like what I was talking about earlier, just being in the car, you know, hearing coaches, hearing my my pops and my uncles play RB music from the 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, maybe even before it was considered RB and stuff like that, maybe when it was back when it was just Soul. Um, and um then I, you know, I was kind of around, I was conscious enough to when Neo Soul was becoming a thing again, where you had like the D'Angelos and you had um, you know, I don't even know if you'd be considered Neo Soul, but like the Mary J. Blige's and stuff like that. And then you had Soul come back, you know, through like British artists like Amy Winehouse and stuff like that. I was conscious enough for that type of music to where it influenced me in maybe a very subliminal way to the type of music that I make now and the music that I'm interested in now. Um and even though I'd say I listen to everything, I know everybody says they listen to everything. I I genuinely do listen to everything from house to folk to country to RB to Spanish music to you know, anything that I can get my, you know, I can that can make me move and that can make me feel something, I listen to it. But RB and soul is definitely the things that have spoken to me the most and have made me feel the most uh myself listening to them.

SPEAKER_04 55:10

That's usually my uh question when people are like I listen to everything. I'm like even country. I feel like people people who say I listen to everything, there they're one thing that they don't do, is usually country. That's country.

SPEAKER_05 55:25

You're like he said like folk music, yeah. The little with the strings and like we just gotta find the right stuff, right? Yeah, no, I just listen to rock and hip hop together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You listen to poker, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like, no, I listen to Mexican music, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't say Mexican music because they got different kinds, but that that one that sounds like that.

SPEAKER_13 55:44

Yeah, no, yeah, no, I literally it's yeah, I listen to to anything that that sounds good, I like, you know. Um, but RB and soul is my favorite by far.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

Let's go. So you listen to RB and soul like for the majority of your day?

SPEAKER_13 55:58

Absolutely, yeah. Doing doing anything. When I'm working out, I'll be, you know, pushing the heaviest weight I ever touched in my life, and it'll be some super calm RB or soul music from the 70s in my ears just because it relaxes my mind. I don't know why it does, but you know, when I'm trying to focus on something that's really physically exerting, I like to be mentally very understimulated so I can focus.

SPEAKER_04 56:20

I've told them before here on the podcast that like when you're working out, it's good to listen to like slower music because then you get a better muscle-mind connection.

SPEAKER_13 56:30

Yeah, that tempo, that tempo follows the music sometimes.

SPEAKER_05 56:33

That's crazy. I I I obviously I'm still new, bro. I'm I've been a year, but I'm still not being like I'm supposed to, but I'm but I've been, you know, I know how to work out a little bit now. So sure. But I found that Salaiside is my favorite. Oh man, I love Sala. I love it. I don't know, yeah, I don't know why. That should've been my thing. I'd be probably like, let's fucking go. Like I don't know what it is about it, fam, but it it gets me fucking going, fam. So like that's crazy. Cause you know, I I I I'll go in there and I'll put some rap, like some hard hitting rap or some crazy, you know, all I do is win ass DJ Cow. Some shit. I've tried it, yeah. I'm like, okay, just and it's straight, like, yeah, you know, it gets you going and shit. But then the solid side or something come on and I'd be in there. Like, one time, one time I was fucking doing uh the fucking, you know, the the my the worst workout to me ever is the the like the lunges when you hold the two weights and then you do the fucking lunges. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate that shit with a passion, bro.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

I think everybody ate that.

SPEAKER_05 57:28

No, I hate that shit with a passion, bro. But you know, and then it always fucks me up. Like right now, I'm fucked up off that bullshit. But you know, but it's like one little fucking workout that just gets me. But I did like the most I ever did of that shit listening to fucking my all by Mariah Carey. Oh man, I was thinking that shit like a motherfucker by Bible while I was doing that shit, but it had me going.

SPEAKER_13 57:46

That's my mom's artist right there and her song. That's her song right there. I love that song.

SPEAKER_05 57:49

That's probably one of my top RB songs ever, bro. I love this.

SPEAKER_13 57:52

Oh man, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:52

Just the the the writing and the the way she executed that. Derek Jeter, nigga.

SPEAKER_13 57:58

Oh man, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 58:00

That's why I couldn't ever fuck with nobody like that, man. No way. We got a uh hit number one best RB song, top 20 in the world ever in the history of music, and it's for somebody else. Fuck you. I can't be with you. Go be with Derek Jeter.

SPEAKER_04 58:15

What's one of the most important lessons you've learned in life or music or your music journey to this point?

SPEAKER_13 58:23

Um, I would say that honesty and being yourself always wins. I mean, because I think for a long time I was a person who wanted to fit in or did certain things for approval or for attention, and music kind of inherently, ironically, is kind of like that, right? Where a lot of us I feel like are trying to seek external validation from different people. But the reality is that you can't control who's a fan of you, right? Just like you can't control who likes you, and you can't control who's gonna be your friend, and you can't control who's gonna find you attractive. Um, but if you are yourself and you are honest, the right energy and the right people will always find you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:00

I like that. Hey man, I'm about to fucking flip this soundboard, bro. He got one more good quote. I'm like, nigga, we out here.

SPEAKER_04 59:07

Interview skills. For real. Wait. All right, last question I got. How can the all four one for all podcast audience find your content?

SPEAKER_13 59:15

Yeah, so I'm on all platforms um at uh Cristiano spelled super weirdly, but stay with me. C-R-I-S-T-V-N-O. Um, and it's just my way of kind of still, you know, staying true to my name and my roots, Cristiano. That's what my family calls me, but um, in a way that you can find um, you know, anywhere just by typing in C-R-I-S-T-V-N-O. Um, and uh also it's just it looks cool when I'm looking at it and I and I write it out and I tell people my name, you know, through text message or something like that, it just looks cool to me. So I like it for that superficial reason.

SPEAKER_05 59:48

It gives me like a seeing it spelt out gives me like a like a uh like a like a high-end clothing type fragrance by Cristiano. It's that anxiety, is that what it gives you? Nah, he's still it gives me anxiety. Like, am I pronouncing this shit right? Am I saying it right? I know his name.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:11

No, I got people who know my name who still say it Crisbino, just the way that it's spelled, and I you know what I love it now.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

It's because you're you're going the Chris D T. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:20

Like you know, the I. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:22

And then that without the I and then the V. Yeah, no, you know.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:25

I get it. No, I trust me. I get it. You know, I might, you know, it's too late now. It's too late. Never rolling it. But it's like how do you say that?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:32

How do you say that one shit the with the jackets? The pelly pels? Pelly pells. I'm pretty sure we were saying that shit wrong. I don't I don't think that's how you say the word pelly. We just cause why the fuck is one pelly and the other one's pell, nigga. What the fuck? We just made that up, pelly pell, you know, yeah, but it just looks good, you know. So I feel what you say, but like I said, it gives me that type of vibe.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:49

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:49

You could put that up in a cold little logo form, yeah, next to like Gucci or something, and it'll look like and regardless, people are always gonna get any name wrong, no matter what, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:59

Any name, bro. My name is Michael, and motherfuckers still get my name wrong, bro. Michael is like the fucking oldest name ever.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:10

Mikael, Mikael, or like my rap name is Illy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:15

I have it in a song. I have, you know, like when I send um, because my shop's Illy Tense. So when I send people like their messages for my shops, um, I send a link from the song. So, you know, and the whole song is saying Illy Tense, you know, and they'll come in, like talk about the video a little bit, and then they'll still call me like Eiley or Elite, yeah, you know, and I'm like, whatever.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:43

Well, you know what?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:44

It's a great conversation starter, pay the fucking bill for it. Right. You owe me 300 plus back.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:50

Yeah, pay Eiley. No, right, yeah, no discount now. No, um, but um, no, yeah, it's a great conversation starter too, man. You know, when people mispronounce it or they they ask me, like, well, how do you say this name? Um I'm like, all right, here's a a way to talk about it and kind of you know have that blah blah. Yeah, and even if they mispronounce it, it's very memorable still, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:07

Yeah, no matter what, you're gonna remember that you didn't know how to say it, or you know, yeah, that's I I fuck with it, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:13

All right, we're gonna roll into the MKE music picks. All right, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:18

Let's go with um we'll do Cristiano's first, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:22

All right, yeah, it's my guy Dre Way. Uh he just came out with the album called The Elevator Album, and it's a concept of kind of going up on an elevator and listening to rap music. And uh, this is probably one of the only songs I got out that I'm actually rapping, and so you guys get to hear that today too.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:37

We about to hear it now, because yep, now I have to hear that. Let's go. First floor by Dre Way.

unknown 1:02:46

Sky Club and Sage.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

Let's get straight into the world. I'm all in some bit. Nigga's on the road just like a minute, take a little bit of money, smoking with the money.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:47

What the fu that was super unique, man. I was not expecting that at all.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:52

Thank you guys, yeah. Kind of some jazzy bossing over type.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:56

And then like when you look at the artwork, you not expecting it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 1:06:00

Man, the whole project is like that too. It's a bunch of um really unique, jazzy, jazz-inspired boss and over Brazilian style, like inf uh inspired, I'm sorry, instrumentals. Um and my guy Drake can really spit and he really talks about some shit when you're listening to him. He's got some lyrics that mean something. So um definitely check out that album, man. I'm on there a couple more times, as are some other really dope artists as well. And it's all just kind of like supposed to have that elevator music vibe to it.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:24

Is is the whole thing floors?

SPEAKER_13 1:06:26

Yep, it's all floors.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:27

Okay, yeah, that was another one that said eighth floor on there.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:30

Eighth floor is me too.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:31

Yeah, no, that was the 13th floor.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:33

Uh, there's no uh no 13th floor. We didn't make it there, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:36

Yeah, uh the building is only so tall, but that's when uh you gotta go to BU. BU go with a horror flick. Oh, right the 13th floor.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:46

No, yeah, uh that was unique, bro. And then like hit dog voice and the way he raps. At first, I'm like, oh, like I didn't think he was rapping like that, just the way he came off. But you know, after by the time you got to a minute in, you're like, oh, he's rapping, he's saying, Yeah, he no, he does, man. So shout out to Dre Way, bro. Shout out to uh Cristiano. Thank you for playing that song, guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:06

And like I said, man, the bitches got to Cristiano because you were you listening to his lyrics. Yeah, yeah, they got to him, they did him dirty.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:15

Hey, but your rap voice is way different and shit. That's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:18

Yeah, no, it's kind of like that uh who is who is that, like Bryson Tiller? You ever heard Bryson Tiller just talk on an iterative? Way, way different.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:25

You like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_13 1:07:26

It's that Bryson Tiller effect, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:28

All right, bro. Uh, we're gonna go with my next one. Or the next one will be mine. Uh, this is I was listening to this in the whip the other day. Uh, I can't overstate how much dog is slept on. Yeah, you know, he does great graphics, he got platinum plaques for graphic design, but his music is cold to me, fam. This is Bricks. It's called uh Pick Me. It's on his Black Earth album. It just dropped, I believe, last year. No, five years ago. My bad. That's another one that I was listening to then. But this is Bricks, pick me. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:59

That fucking cover is cold. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Well, they put my name in the dirt, my face on the shirt. I like to welcome y'all to Black Earth.

unknown 1:08:10

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Uh shit. When they put my name in the dirt, my face on the shirt. Yeah, let's be a buggy with the plug on my name, but when I put a dude say in my club, got my girl back. You pick me, why you pick me? Why you pick me? Fucking fade, I ain't read a blue. Why you was faking, I was getting through. I caught you lying, I was being true. Stuck in the world with niggas brand new. I got some money, I'm a brand too.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:41

We quarantine more. Yeah, that can brand new. I got some money, I'm a brand too. Like, yeah, hey, well, I was that this one of those that's one of those records where I was just sitting there listening. And he wasn't like going super out of his, you know, lyrical mirror. No, he was just saying real shit the whole song.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:55

So he'll he's a strong voice. Yeah, his voice is super strong. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:59

That's how all his tracks are. He's like, he's just saying shit that's like real.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:03

Like, yeah, yeah, he just goes, you know, he go in. Uh what's it called? Uh ironically enough, he was one of the people in the studio one time. And this is like uh not a catalyst, it's uh a pivotal moment for me. Cause I was like, Yeah, bro, I got this second verse for this man, but it's like, you know, like I feel like it might be too much on the message. And I wasn't saying it like I didn't want to do it, I was just saying, simply stating, like, it's just a lot, a lot of messaging in it, you know what I mean? And he was like, not everything need a message, man. And I'm like, yeah, then I go listen to this nigga shit. All your shit got messages, man. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but you know, I knew what he was saying. He was like, just don't think about it too much. But shout out to Bricks, bro. You know, you he one of my favorite artists, no bullshit. I I fuck with Bricks. Uh, shout out to him and uh keep going, fam. Keep going. That song is dope. All right, man. The third pick, Illy's pick. South side, Hunt Yo Gang J. This is dope sick. I'm waiting on my feature, nigga. Stop playing, bro. I got a cold ass verse for a Hunch Yo Gang song, bro. Yeah, that's right. I said it now. I'm on your ass. Let's go. Dope sick by Hunt Yo Gang J. This beat so fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:02

All right, now this is something that I I gotta say. I haven't heard this song.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:08

Well, really?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:09

Yeah. I picked it because this is one thing that I I just know about his music. Whatever he drops is gonna sound crispy as fuck. Yeah, yeah. Always. This this man's got this sound in the bag.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:25

Like down to a five.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:26

I've never heard any of his tracks that are like that that aren't quality, you know, and it doesn't have like a good flow to it, like just there's nothing off about them.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:39

The video crispy as fuck. Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:42

Yeah, whatever colour that was was fucking nice. Yeah, I didn't see the video before I picked it, and I didn't listen to the song before I picked it. But that's what I expect from artists that we put on this platform. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:53

That's a huge compliment. That's a huge compliment to that guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:55

Yeah, I've I've heard that and seen and seen that video. But the that shit is he, you're you're right, bro. His when he gets into that shit he does right there with the when he the way he rapped in that verse and shit, he got that shit down. Like you you can't say nothing about that shit, bro. He got that shit perfectly fucking set out, he records it perfectly.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:14

Yeah, I was gonna say technically that was mixed really well too. I mean, that punched, that punched right through the beat, that punched right through this the the sound. I mean, and yeah, the visuals just complemented that completely.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:25

It's crazy, man, to just see Joey D with hair, a little bit a little less weight and hair, bro. It looked just like that nigga. It's crazy. Uh yeah, but yeah, but shout out to Hunch Yo Gang J, bro. Uh he's been he been doing it for a minute, bro. You know, he I remember him recording me at Joey D house, bro, like when he was fucking 10 and shit.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:45

Wow, you know, man, no, that is crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:47

Like, hey, Joey D's like my son got it over there, and he That's Joey D's son?

SPEAKER_13 1:14:51

Yeah, whoa, no, he's super talented.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:53

Couldn't it tell man?

SPEAKER_13 1:14:54

You know, I was just listening, man. I was absorbing. Yeah, yeah, but now that you know that when you see it again, you'll be like, yeah, that's his son, bro. You know what? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:03

Yeah, but you know, so to all the artists, all the hometown artists, it if I hear one good song, that's my new bar from you. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:13

Like, I I expect you to not backtrack, you know, because I live off that before you said that, I that's how I do to myself personally. Yeah, I hate doing backward shit. You know what I'm saying? I can't go back. I can't like if I ever win eventually, because I do want to do like some more political-based conversations and shit, but when that happens, it has to be at this level. Yeah, I can't go back to iPhones and sitting in a corner somewhere talking, and you know, that it just can never happen there ever again. You know, yeah, it's a standard setting up, so it has to either meet or exceed. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

And I'm not saying like every track every song gotta have a crazy visual or you know, but like sonically, it's gotta be up to par with your best shit. Yeah, sure. Big facts. Yeah, yeah. I think I heard that's what we're looking for on this podcast.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:06

No, 100%. I think I heard somebody say one time too, like the second your music doesn't sound mixed well or it doesn't sound professional, that's when people check out right away. And then with this music that's when this music scene that's so oversaturated, you're probably seeing so many people promote their music on a day-to-day basis. If it don't sound good like immediately, yeah, um, people are are checked out.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:24

But I mean I feel like I feel like we're in a time, uh a day and age where you have no excuse for that, really. Yeah, you know, like it's so easy to do it, fam. Like, and then I'm I'm late to it. I'm late to even catch up on that. Cause in my mind, I'm mentally, I feel like, oh, well, you're just starting out.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:42

You know, when I first started out, we was just running gun recording some, you know, my shit wasn't cold like that, but I was just trying to push it out because that's the equipment I had. Yeah, I didn't want to pay for an engineer, you know what I mean? Like, but back then to get the shit that you get nowadays, you looking at 150 an hour, you know, for some shit that you could just go spend a couple bucks and you'll have that quality in front of you. Yeah, it's crazy. So it's like yeah, there's really no excuse anymore, like you said. But I do, I would give you grace. Yeah, you're doing it for yourself. Yeah, I'll give you a little bit of grace and you're just starting. But like Illy said, soon as I hear some shit that's super cold, yeah, and it sounds good, like you're actually rapping, you're actually the like your melodies are on point and shit. You can never go back from that.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:25

No, you can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:26

You know, you can, but it's gonna be met with uh a certain disdain almost. Like, uh I've heard them, I've heard it better before.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:33

You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:35

All right, let's roll into some topics. Um, this first topic we got is by Mellow Tunes.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:43

How to not suck at performing with a D.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:46

Oh, mellow tuned. Yeah, my bad. No, you how to not suck at performing.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:50

Shout out to Mellow Tune, bro. Um, he's becoming one of my favorite content creators slash artist type. Like he's really good at it. He did he did like a burger review or some shit, and I was fucking watching it. Like, that's how you know you're doing a good job. You know, because he be talking shit, his humor matches mine. So let's go, Melo.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:08

How your song sounds on DSPs is important, but how you perform is crucial. This is coming from someone who's touched more stages than he's dropped music. How you perform changes everything. I can't tell you how many artists I've seen, but these are someone fumble the second they touch a stage. Hey, they lack energy, don't sound like they're tracks. Rely on packing fumbles to get into the set. But even worse, deliver this out. You want to deliver this energy? Number one, memorize your lyrics. Number three, memorize your lyrics. Number four, take advantage of open mics. And number five, if you don't remember nothing from this video, that's fine. The only thing you have to remember is that's right, your lyrics. I really hope this is good. In an era with the experience delivered, it's just as important as the product. If people are making time to step out to see you, make it worth their while. That's why i song sounds on DSPs is important.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:15

Hey man, we gotta get him on soon too. He talks really, really good too, bro. Hey, dog step snap. He said hand movements. He was right. What the fuck? It's the stupid shit like that that engages you. You know what I'm saying? Like, dogs say hand movements.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:29

I like the fact that he said remember your lyrics. Well, okay, real quick.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:32

Yeah, so let me let me get my shit off real quick. I think that should be number one. He was like, number one, like that's memorize your fucking lyrics. What are you talking about, bro? If you're gonna perform, you should know your fucking lyrics, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:43

Yeah, it was number one in there. It was number one, number three, and number four. Oh, he made it, he made it multiple.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:48

Oh, okay. I I was fucking looking at like the uh how he was cutting it up and shit, but yeah, okay. So yeah, issue for your lyrics. Then he said something else, then he never his third thing was memory lyrics. He said, Memorized, yeah, okay. I see. Okay. Yeah, that should be number one, motherfucker. Like, so I I I I digress. I didn't I didn't catch that. Yeah, you should definitely memorize your lyrics, and uh as someone who takes huge pride in performing, bro. I've I'm I haven't done it in so long. My first one's August 7th, be on the lookout. But uh I I feel like I'm really, really good at it, fam. Like, that's one of my top things as an artist that I do. And um I just I don't understand how people don't see it when they're doing it. It almost calls it falls in line with the uh how we were talking last week about how they got the ego and they're like, well, I gotta think on the shit even though I'm not. You know what I'm saying? Like that almost kinda falls in line with it because they're kind of like, well, I gotta think on the shit even though I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do when I perform. Nah, you still gotta put the work in to to be able to say that you're a good performer, you know what I mean? Like, it's cool that you're confident. Yes, I want you to be confident when you perform, but you gotta actually know what you're doing, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:01

Yeah. Some motherfuckers just be delusional. Like they think they don't need to practice. You know, like kind of how you were alluding to, like, oh, this is what I do. And then they get up on there, they fumble on a word or something, and then you can tell right away everything just goes to shit after that. The whole energy dies. The whole thing goes out. Yeah, the whole the the way their the crowd is responding to them dies. You know. All from simply not rehearsing, not memorizing the lyrics, you know, not having uh a vision of what they want the show to be like, you know. Because a lot of times picking the proper songs and stuff like that matters as well. You know, and then you can tell there's a lot of artists that don't know how to properly pick show songs.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:47

Bro, I mean, as soon as an artist walks up to the DJ booth and is like trying to figure it out when they call your name, I'm instantly 30% less likely to fucking listen. I'm I'm I damn near my go outside and smoke. You know, no, no bullshit. I'm being I'm being 100% honest. Unless I see every artist of the night doing that because the promoter set it up like that or whatever, maybe. But if if everybody's like, hey Cristiano, you get up there, you do your shit, all right Ellie, you know, and then they call me and I'm like and I gotta fucking have a meeting with the DJ. When they call me to perform, I'm like right away, I'm like, oh, this is gonna be some bullshit.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:26

Cause you that means you don't have your nothing, like you don't have nothing set out, you're just gonna or uh another one that is coincides with that is when they're like rapping, they do the song, everybody's liking it, and they're like, and a song starts and he's like, oh no, no, not that one, play the next one. What the fuck? Yeah, why is it not laid out, fam?

SPEAKER_13 1:22:44

No, that preparation is everything. When I if I were to ever mess up on some lyrics, oh man, just just know that'll live with me enough. It'll live with me enough to where I'm literally like when I leave that performance, I'm so and I like to I like to change, I like to like reframe things. So like if I'm very, very embarrassed, I'm like, I'm gonna turn this into motivation to never forget that lyric ever again, and I'm gonna rehearse the shit out of this song before I go and perform it again. And the next time people see me, that it's gonna sound like a whole different song because I've just put that time into it. And that's just like that's like really loving what you what you do because I feel like if you love what you do, you owe it to what you do to have it completely prepared and and have it shown at its best level. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:23

Like there's times I'll mess up and I'll say and be mad. And the people that came with me will be like, You snap. I'm like, hell no, I know.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:30

And then I'll hold it in my chest and shit.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:32

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:34

All right, uh, let's move to this next topic. Um, the stigma of clickiness in the Milwaukee music scene. How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_13 1:23:42

Yeah, I would say, you know, growing up and even before I kind of really dive deep into the music scene myself, I heard that you know, you can't really make it in Milwaukee because people from Milwaukee are not going to support you until you're outside of Milwaukee hot and doing your thing. Um, and that's something that I definitely a hundred percent believe, just kind of based on what I was seeing. I was in the trajectory of how many artists were really blowing up and coming up out of Milwaukee. I think social media has definitely changed that. I think Milwaukee is definitely starting to pop off a little bit more just for the sake of being Milwaukee and people know it's from Milwaukee. It's not just a poppin' artist, it's a popping artist with the Milwaukee sound or doing a Milwaukee dance to a Milwaukee trend. Um and I think that that's definitely bridged the gap to a huge extent, and there's definitely some artists that I could name that are kind of responsible or at the cutting edge of that. But um, ever since I've been in the music scene, I really feel like at least with artists, maybe I haven't tapped into like the fan base as much as I wanted to yet, but at least with artists, everybody's been super, super supportive. And you know, I've made great connections. I feel like I'm in a great community, and that includes you guys, you know, being a part of the music community and scene we have in Milwaukee. Um, just from being out here and just from having conversations, and it's always love. And uh, you know, it hasn't been a time yet, at least, that I haven't experienced love from you know the artists in the Milwaukee scene. So I mean, I feel like it is clicky, but at the same time, I personally am grateful and humbled that I haven't had had to really experience that too much.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:07

Yeah. What about you? Um I I want to say I feel like maybe it's a little different, and I said this earlier, and I'm not not to uh discredit what you're saying, because I I believe it, because I have felt that love too. But I think you're in your own lane and you have a lot of space in that lane, and uh it is a little different when you're rapping, because everybody raps, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, um, unless you're doing shit like the song you showed me with your guy, yeah. That was so different. You know, nobody who the fuck I've never heard a song like that, you know. So uh as a rapper, as a hometown uh I I I guess I'll say staple. I don't want to say legend or nothing. Yeah, hero. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, hero. I saved all y'all niggas. I saved all you niggas, bro. I'm the salvation of Street Jesus, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like, nah, but just as a as a hometown staple, you know, somebody who's been around this motherfucker everywhere a lot, yeah. It definitely is clicks, bro. Like, yeah, there's you know, uh, there's actually, damn, I forgot to bring that up. We could have talked about that, but just a side note, there's been uh Spades dropped a video about the summer festivals and shit, not uh fucking with him. And I agree with what he's saying. I I think he maybe he's going about it a little wrong, but I agree with what he's saying because he is out here. I've been telling Illy for a minute, like bro, Spades has like this resurgence and he's our age range, yeah. So he's a little older, bro. He has this resurgence, bro, where like plenty of people know his shit, they all dancing to it, they be out there, he could be at the end of any show and he'll get that bitch lit at the end, you know what I'm saying? Like and uh he's not getting no, you know, mm-hmm. And I feel like uh that can be uh that can be considered uh uh uh L to the clickiness in there. Cause you know, there's a click that they get the summer fest performances, they get the summer solstice performances, and you know, and uh amongst me and artist friends that I have, we use we use the terminology, you know, they go with the safe artist.

SPEAKER_13 1:27:17

Uh yeah, yeah. When you were talking, I was getting that thought of like they're trying to appeal to maybe a more mainstream audience or to um the audience of people coming from outside of the city.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:28

Because yeah, spades is making yeah, and literally like they don't want the herb in that, you know what I'm saying? They're like, oh, oh, hey, yeah, we need some shit, you know, that you're fucking trying to calm people down. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? So that that to me in itself is a clicky neck. Give us some hip hop, but less hip hop y. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Give give us some give us some hip hop that we can digest, you know what I mean? Like and and that's not to take away from some of these artists, because some of the artists on there, I'm just gonna use the one of my main ones, uh, way. Chappelle. That nigga is fucking ridiculously cold, bro. He can fucking rap his ass off, bro. Yeah, you can. And he surprises me. Every time I hear him lately, like recently. And his performances are wild. Ridiculous, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it's like he cold, but he's considered one of those safe that like you can put him anywhere and he'll, you know, he's not making, you know, gangbanging music, so to speak, you know, like street shit. You know what I mean? Like, so you know, but again, that that's not to take away from his talent. Yeah, it's just still, you know, the aesthetic, everything comes along and brings this clickiness to everybody. And then, you know, on the lower level, uh, I can't tell you how many fucking flyers or shows I've seen and been a part of where it's the same group of people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:49

You know, yeah, that that I have seen. I've seen a lot of the same faces and a lot of events that I've done for sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:54

It'll be a show and it's cold, whatever, bro. Do what you gotta do. It should be cold, and you gotta be having good lineups. But that just that's why I appreciate what me and Illy are doing here so much. Yeah, because now, like, I don't I didn't know you. Yeah, I was like, Hey, now I'm you know, now we we're gonna have a relationship moving forward. Yeah, because now we had a conversation, but I didn't know you. I didn't be like, Oh, Christiano been fucking with me for a minute, I'm gonna put him on, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:18

It's it's more of a equal opportunity, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:20

Exactly. You know, BZ bars was we didn't even know dog at all, and now that's one of the bros.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:24

I fucking cool person, bro. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:27

And we just so happened to Illy was like, Let's play. And I almost said no, remember? Yeah, I was like, nah, bro, you got a fucking cell phone video, bro. You don't want to like remember? I almost passed up on that. I almost was like, fuck that, yeah. And it ended up working out, bro. Yeah, yeah. So, but but again, clickiness is there, fam. You know what I mean? I'm not saying it's not, and I feel like maybe the timeline you're in right now, it has been way more different, bro. Okay, definitely like 10 years, 10 years ago was it was rough. I was with the clicks, bro. Yeah, everybody was them, them, them, us, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:00

Like, yeah, yeah, there's definitely in I'd say within the past like seven to ten years, there's been way more uh unity in the music scene. Yeah. And then, you know, the ten years prior to that, it was really clicky.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:19

Yeah, you know, and really bad.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:22

I'm glad you brought up that um that thing with uh spades because you know I also had uh a little bit of opinion on that as well because of a a video that I had watched prior to that about an it was an artist saying, you know, if you're not being picked to do certain events and stuff like that, and it's getting to you, um, basically you're not working, you're working hard, but you're feeling some type of entitlement. Yeah, who said that? What was it?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:53

Who was it?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:54

I can't remember who said it, but you're feeling some type of entitlement.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:57

No, but that's for Spades.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:00

No, this was like a this was like a famous person. Oh, okay. Yeah, like it was.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:04

I was saying because a bunch of Milwaukee people said that right after Spades said that.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:08

Yeah, well, no, this was something I had seen like probably three months back. I see what you're saying, like somebody up. Yeah, and it it it it stuck with me. And then when I seen Spades thing, that's what I had thought about it. Like, you know, like I get what you're saying, bro, but at the same time, you know, like you have to throw your own events, you know, like, yeah, you're working super hard and you're but you're not throwing your own events. Yeah, you know, you're not like bringing hundreds of people out to your own events and putting on a super dope show and showing these uh platforms why they need you as an artist, you know, to be at these events, you know. So it's like you can get mad, but at the same time, outwork them. You know what I'm saying? Because um, I I want to say it was Ray Daniels. Um, was he was basically saying something along the lines of uh you know, you are the platform that these places like um The Rave and Summerfest and Um Lollapalooza. Oh, okay, no, he was saying it to Lil Wayne because Lil Wayne had mentioned that um like he gets passed over from like Lollapalooza or some shit like that, or some of these like really big uh festivals, and Lil Wayne was just like you know, he's one of the biggest names in hip-hop, and he, you know, he steered the culture where it is right now, you know. And Ray Daniels was saying like Lil Wayne has the means to throw his own festivals. Why is he not doing that? You know, yeah. So and it it makes a lot of sense, you know. Uh well that's a whole uh we could have a whole podcast about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:53

I I think that facts you could, but I don't think you're uh well, no, no, I I let me shut the fuck up because J. Cole does it. He does the Dream Field Fest. Yeah, but he just ended that, I think.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:07

Yeah. Well, Tyler does it too. You know, Tyler throws his own stuff and he's such an off the wall, you know, oddball type person, but you know, he created his own waves too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:16

So yeah, so to take it back to the clickiness, you know, like I felt the same way with the whole like I'd never been invited to go on a podcast, bro. Ever. And the one time I was invited to go on a podcast, it wasn't for music, it was for podcasts. Oh, okay. Like Xavier. I thought you were talking about the bias BS or yeah, yeah, you know, so like that that was the second time I'd been put on a podcast, but that was after we had already started our podcast. That's what I'm saying. It was for podcasts. Like, yeah, you know, I had felt, you know, there was a little bit of clickiness going on. Nobody's inviting me to, you know, but at the same time, if y'all ain't gonna invite me, I'll start my own.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:54

Yeah, like well, I'll take this opportunity again to thank you guys for having me on here because I mean, yeah, this is probably my only my third, you know, official interview ever. Well, yeah, we can't tell, nigga. Yeah, right. And so, you know, I don't get this opportunity all the time, and it's been such a pleasure thus far. Absolutely. So I appreciate y'all having me.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:15

And like I said, you know, like when I thought of this podcast, I wanted to be an equal opportunity podcast. Like it ain't no clickiness going on here. If you're good enough to be on here, yeah, we're gonna have you on here. But also, you know, if you're trying to be on here, but you're not good enough to be on here, you got some more work to do.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:34

How often do you all be watching us asking to be on?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:37

Oh, every time I go out now.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:40

And some and and sometimes it'd be people that I have already on the list that I'm gonna have them do. Like I in my mind, like you're you're you're in the rotation, bro. Yeah, yeah. But that just goes to show how much I appreciate what you're doing, you know. Because there there was, I had actually a pretty well-established name that was in the spot that I wanted you to come on for. Yeah, yeah. And then when I seen you perform, I'm like, fuck dog, I'm gonna be able to do that. Man, I appreciate that's pretty good. That's big fan of being 1000. I'll tell you after because I don't want to say, Yeah, yeah, no, I've got to go. But yeah, appreciate it. But you know, I was gonna, I definitely had it lined up a certain way, and I was like, nah, and I seen you perform, and I'm like, bro, why would I do that? I could just have somebody who really in the fucking in the shit, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:35:21

Well, yeah. Well, thank you for giving me the chance.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:22

Yeah, oh hell yeah, bro. Shit, it's well worth it, bro. I mean, I didn't need to see that video, but we could have kept that, man.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:29

Yeah, but thank you, uh thank you for taking the good with the bad.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:33

Nah, but you do what you're supposed to, bro. You do exactly what you're supposed to, bro. If I was on that, I would be 100% doing that same shit, man. Yeah, yeah. All right, so everybody be on the lookout for uh Illy Sports Illustrated video. That's the next drop, nigga. He already owned it.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:49

Thanks. So that concludes this episode of the R414R podcast, brought to you by Illy, Street Team Hectic, the R414R Media Studio, SG Films, and our guests for episode 45, Cristiano.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:06

Let's go. Thank you, guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:09

Appreciate y'all having me. It's been a pleasure being here. Absolutely. Thank you. We appreciate you coming through, bro. If you haven't already, we encourage you to take a moment to subscribe to our channel, like this video, and leave us a comment about the topic that interests you the most. Thank you for watching and come back for the next episode of the R414 Podcast. Let's go memorize your lyrics with your bullet.