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All 414 All Podcast Episode 40 W/ Kia Rap Princess

Illie & StreetTeam Hek Episode 40

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Episode 40 the hometown royalty Kia Rap Princess comes by the set with a proclamation of sorts!! After delivering a smooth live performance, we talk about Kia's process, victories and struggles in her claim to greatness.. we then speak on self promotion and sales and producers paying artists for their own projects!!!

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SPEAKER_15

I got you. You talking to a mo sippin'. Don't get it. Droll it, Poe Pippin'. On the beach with my toes drippin'. It's a dope ridding. One hit in your house made and give 'em hope, really. Never care about who don't get it, niggas don't get it. Charge a taxi coming with it, nigga, no kidding. Never played up a nose, bitches who'd go really. KRP, I don't know, Billy, still I'm so ill. Gave them game like I know Billy and it's so silly. Fuck a thou, I need a million. All this pain I adored and still, it didn't kill me. This guy had a plan for me. Look at the way he healed me. I know that it was written, just look at the way he wheeled me. Suckers getting mad, they hatin' don't even thrill me. Talking to a baddy who thinkin' she knows the real me. Gotta be more than life. Goin' out and just chillin', having meaning the sex. This shit ain't really a pillin'. I'm on the road too far to be in my feelings. I'ma keep it one if there's nothing if me building. Well, let me know that you feel it. And in due time, gotta reveal it that I'm the one that's chosen from the east to the west. I've been held the crown for it was tatted on my flesh. And I never mind opinions about who they say the best. I be the change and let you niggas keep the rest. Yeah. Yeah. Kara P.

SPEAKER_13

You know, you know I'm in the building when I do that. Some light though, you know. The vibes is set. Yeah. I told y'all I got y'all. We in the building. Let's go. Yeah. Well, let's fucking go.

SPEAKER_03

Bro, I've always found it really hard to do that. To do the no, the no uh drop beats.

SPEAKER_13

It's something with your finger. It won't. Like it's just yeah, I don't think it'll rhythm.

SPEAKER_03

But when y'all, when y'all rap, when when the beat never drops like that, and you just killing it like that, that should be yeah.

SPEAKER_02

To keep it so smooth, like that's what I'm saying. Just the whole shit, just yeah, but the punchlines are just back to back, fucking from y'all. I appreciate that because we know y'all don't nerds anymore.

SPEAKER_13

That shit, what man, I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's different, it's just different, bro. I like it. Who to go really? She don't know Billy.

SPEAKER_04

I was like, oh like that, bro. That's my shit.

SPEAKER_02

All right, let's go. Mike Check, you now tapped into the all 414. Well, Hometown Artistry isn't just a statement, it's a standard. Before we dive into today's episode, take a brief moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell so you can stay updated on future episodes as we continue to bring you the truest talent our hometown has to offer. I am your host, the 414 Tycoon, more commonly known as Illy. And joining me as co-host is my lyrical brethren, the verbal executionist, Street Team Hectic. These episodes are brought to you out of the Third War Studios, and behind the lens, we got SG Films. Joining us for episode 40 is a prominent independent rapper, singer, and songwriter, known for her versatile style, blending hip hop, rap, and RB, well established as a significant figure in the 414 music scene with her energy and lyrical ability, Kia Rap Princess. Let's go.

SPEAKER_15

Oh my god. Just cut it to the Grammys at this point. That was it. Man, I appreciate y'all for having me.

SPEAKER_14

40 episode 40. The big 40. A lot of niggas ain't making it to 40. 40.

SPEAKER_15

Hey, we couldn't have had a better guess for man with a pinnacle. Man, I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? Y'all could have had me on number 26 or something. You know, it would have still been. I'm just saying, uh, you know, shout out to the number of channels. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_14

I figured it could have been 26, but it's a it's a monumental number, you know.

SPEAKER_15

No, it really is.

SPEAKER_03

And then uh, you know, when I be editing this shit, bro, and then I go to put in the name of the the file, you know what I'm saying? I obviously I put them in order. So I'm A414A episode, and I'm like, dog, we had 34, 35. Then just the other day, episode 39. I said, Oh, we on 40 next week, bro. Yeah, I was like, man, that shit's crazy, and I got new internet, so that shit going super fast now.

SPEAKER_14

Who did you have before?

SPEAKER_03

No, I had Spectrum.

SPEAKER_14

Oh, uh, and then ATT came out.

SPEAKER_03

ATT came through and was like, Hey, we in the neighborhood, man. We're gonna plug you with this, this, this. Half the price, half the price, double the speed. I was like, come on.

SPEAKER_15

ATT said, get down to later.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, but you know what's fucked up. I call Spectrum after, and them hoe ass niggas out of we'll give you this and this five free phones everything for 20 bucks a month. I'm like, why you ain't do that when I was a customer, motherfucker? I'm out of here. Fuck y'all.

SPEAKER_15

You gotta leave each company every two years and shit just to get a deal.

SPEAKER_03

Like, thanks. The competition's crazy, though.

SPEAKER_15

You gonna get it for one cent when you come in and at the end of that special is $207.95.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy, bro. Yeah, anyway, that's dedicated because uh, I'm trying to leave Spectrum for my home internet as well, because them motherfuckers are playing a hundred dollars a month, bro.

SPEAKER_03

And then you gotta like have the phone to get the deal. Like, nobody even has a house phone board, but they'll make you get the phone, the phone line.

SPEAKER_15

Man, Spectrum got 24 hours to respond, bro. Like we got grievances of Spectrum right now. I'm like, play the fuck. We're gonna need one of the Spectrum uh retail sellers to come in and have a yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Let's go.

SPEAKER_02

All right, um, so let's dig into it a little bit. Give us a little bit of your uh history, man. You've been in you you've been honing down for the 414 since I started doing music. The first time I actually met you was um in a it was DJ Payne One, Mr. Get Your Buzz Up, and um I-20. They were having like a little competition to see who was like the best performance of the night. Um we had made it past like the first rounds of that, and then I went up against you as the second round, you blew me out the water.

SPEAKER_15

You blew me out the water, but you were shark, obviously, so you can still swim, you know. Nah, man. Yeah, dang, that's so far. That's like 2011.

SPEAKER_02

It was at Grangers, I believe.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, yeah. Shout out, wasn't that Miracle? Uh, didn't she help put that event together or something? Yeah, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_03

I wasn't there, but I remember. I definitely remember that. I was like, who the fuck is paying one? And then somebody told me I was mad as hell I missed that shit.

SPEAKER_15

Nah man, so yeah, so even before that, I was signed to um Idle Eye Records, who um, you know, hosted uh Baby Drew, Baby Drew in the Country Boy Click, which is obviously classic in Milwaukee 2 Legends or whatever the case. So they uh a producer by the name of Logo Music had took interest in me. I was um doing I had decided to do a little battle rap back in that day type shit. And um DJ Razor, he had did a um he had done a battle where it was just like all guys, and then it was just me, like or whatever. And I think I made it to like it's probably five rounds. I think I made it to the fourth round and got blew out or whatever case, but that caught um the um eye of Ice Mone. If y'all know Ice Mone from Mompty, Shuddy Thick, or whatever case, and Homer Blow, who was on WNOV at the time or whatever. And um, I remember Ice Mone trying to come to my grandma's house to, you know, sign me and all that other stuff. And my grandma was like, she's going to school, or whatever.

SPEAKER_14

So it was like, dang, girl, I was trying to be all cool at the house, kill me, right?

SPEAKER_15

But when I turned a senior, that was like the following. So that was like, you know, that that same summer, you know, once I graduated, you know, obviously, you know, I'm like, shoot, I want to get in the studio, got linked back up with logo, and that's how I kind of got started um recording out of uh Trio Records. So shout out to Trio Records.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to Trio Records.

SPEAKER_15

Started recording there and then um went from there, almost got signed with Sony BMG in California or whatever the case. Deal didn't go through, you know what I'm saying? But we could talk more about that later. You know what I'm saying? I just feel like God has a plan and a season for everything. And had I did take that deal, I probably would have been one of them artists that y'all see today talking about how, uh, you know, they took my money and blah, blah, blah. So, you know, I probably couldn't see it then, but I see it more now, like what I gained from not taking that deal or that deal not really going through it to coming to fruition, because it brought me back to Milwaukee where I met or got to link up with my godfather, my late godfather, Zantony Brookings, ex or whatever the case, of Blacklist music. He was a good dude. Yeah, man. And he read over my contract and everything. It was like, yeah, this wasn't it, you know. But you wide-eyed bushy tail coming from Milwaukee out the hood, you know what I'm saying? 750,000, close to a million, you know what I'm saying? You thinking, we out of here, you know. But when I came back, it was like the recoupment race. I started learning about that. Like, what the hell is that? I didn't know nothing about that, you know? And he put me on my pathway to independent, you know what I'm saying? Like, where I just started paying attention to, you know, register registering my music. I wasn't even doing that then, you know. And then from there, just uh taking that same mentality that he kind of taught me at that, you know what I'm saying, tender age of myself and putting myself in all the venues or whatever. Like, so it would only be a group of handful of females, yeah. And it would always be male-dominated, you know what I'm saying? And I was just everywhere that I could be, you know what I'm saying? From like he said, the Grangers, the Smashes, the uh the spots, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying, I'm naming it, yeah. You know what I'm saying, the Tim Buck 2, the Mad Planet.

SPEAKER_03

One of the few that I can honestly say I've seen you everywhere and anywhere I've ever went. Yeah, I've key will be there, fam. Like, and then because I take pride in that because I've been everywhere. Yeah, I see you almost all the time. I just walk in, like, what up, Kia over there? You know what I'm saying? Like, in a thousand events, fam.

SPEAKER_15

So, yeah, man. And, you know, obviously, with long story short, doing all that, you know, just um perfecting my craft and just steady staying in people's faces and everything. And then like, you know, God has been able to help me to progress in like in different stages of my career, you know what I'm saying, since then, or whatever the case. Independently, though, there's a lot of things that I feel I've accomplished and happy about that I've done without no major backing, you know what I'm saying? Shows that I've done, different venues that I've touched, you know what I'm saying, different things that I've done up until this point, you know what I'm saying? I'm grateful for that.

SPEAKER_03

You've definitely held it down, like representation on a thousand for that. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02

Too many artists that like I can really say kind of like what heck was leading to that you have been out here. Every place that I go, everybody knows who you are, you know, regardless of how people might feel about you or whatever, but they know the name. And people gotta know the name being a rapper is this. Like it's the same thing with like artists like a Jay-Z or a Nas. Yeah, they might not be a favorite in one person's eyes, but you know the name. So and that's that's enough of me. Yeah, you know, and that's what I'm gonna point out.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I was just as long as I got the re you got the respect, you know. You got the uh they know that you let you not to be played with behind this mic, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You feel me? Like and another aspect where Kia Rap Princess for me is like just monumental, bro. It's like I've never went to a show that you've been involved in where you ain't get that bitch cracking, yeah. And you got three different styles of songs in a set, and every one you'll get them. You talking about aye, aye aye, that's not shit. You had you had my whole crowd at one time, she had them fucking singing the weed.

SPEAKER_04

She had them singing on the mic, all kinds. I'm like, oh, this is crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I'm talking about one of the shyest dudes in the in the whole group we was with, had them singing this shit. Aye, I'm like, oh, I'm like, bro, that shit matters, it matters. It's very, very important to be able to do that. And I think that's what got you to a lot of places in a lot of places is that performance because you be you you can get that bitch going, fam. You get that bitch lit. You know what I'm saying? And this is like not even exaggerating, you know what I'm saying? So I fuck with that, fam. I fuck with the whole the the performance adding on to the fact that you could just wrap your ass off, is you know, and I was on uh the female takeover years ago, yeah.

SPEAKER_15

We we did kidnap, yeah, you know, we but he but we get clearly he lived to tell the story because he's here today, you know. But we did kidnap it.

SPEAKER_03

It made me grow my hair out for all scary, you know. We we did kidnap hair screen, but you know, but I remember back then how big that female takeover had the how big a deal it was that you and Kaylee and everybody was doing that because it wasn't a thing, like it wasn't uh like you said, it was male dominated, yeah, and you know, even back then, even as far as mainstream and shit, it wasn't how it is now, you know. So it was like shit, and then you Lady Sabo, Kaylee, come on, bro. We talk about some stuff. Yeah, Young Key, Young Key.

SPEAKER_15

I just seen her the other day for the first time before shout out to Six, she was Remy, she her she went by Remy then, but her name's Six now, but yeah, yeah, Remy jail.

SPEAKER_03

Give me that day, baby. Yo, everything. I just remember that was a big that was a big thing, you know what I'm saying? The female takeover was a big thing.

SPEAKER_15

And I just remember being a part of all that shit, and it was just yeah, man, and salute to you fellas, like all the fellas from that time from then to now who like you know supported us and stood behind us, like you know what I'm saying? Because a lot of times guys always used to tell me, like, man, I can't listen to women because they they voices, you like, I don't know, it just like I don't know, you know what I'm saying? But for y'all to have loved on us in those times and now, you know what I'm saying, it really do mean a lot because you know, you get all this talk between sexes, right? Between females and males, how males ain't nothing or they don't support and females the same, and blah blah blah. But in hip hop, right, you know, we can say that there is a community, you know what I'm saying? Like that, you know, I support you the same way you support me, you know what I'm saying? But we do need that, you know, even with y'all knowing that it's male-dominated and like, you know, it just is what it is, ladies. Don't get mad because I say that like she's representative of women. Like, no, I'm saying though, like you still have to have a type of um endurance in yourself to even push through that, you know. And just be talented.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah what it is is that at the right at the forefront of thinking about women doing the shit, yeah. You automatically are like, you know, well, hold on. You know what I mean? So when you break through that though, you just gotta be talented, just be good, you know what I mean? Like actually, you know, and I think it doesn't matter that's a constable. Yeah, but it's a big yeah, it's the it's right away. It's the the the first initial it's a woman that's about to rap, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Part of the obstacle is like the um perception that oh she's just given the opportunity, not even based off skill or anything like that. And I think that's where people meet it with such resistance, and they're like, well, no, no, no, I need to make sure she's actually good enough to respect.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02

That's even another layer because mine was different just because they're women.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, no, and I feel you on that because mine was different. Like where I seen a lot of my sisters in hip hop in a sense, you know what I'm saying, have to deal with the um the sex, the sexism that comes with it, you know what I'm saying? On they end. A nigga see me, uh, I'm sorry if I, you know, infinite, but a nigga would see me on, you know, and be like, you know, like she ain't got on no skirt, she ain't like whatever. What's to this chick, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and like most of the fellas know I operate in my masculine, but I'm very much a princess, you know what I'm saying? But at the same, it was like did for me, it was like, okay, if she finna go, she better spit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We ain't looking at no ass. Yeah, almost like the YouTube being over here with us and you finally then you gotta rap. So, like I was used to that, and it was like I come around the fellas. I have to, you know what I'm saying, represent because I'm not only just representing for myself, I'm representing for the females who probably finna come behind me and hopefully want to get on the mic. And then also I gotta set a precedence around, you know what I'm saying, these males. It's like a lion that's coming in with a group of lions. It's like, yeah, okay, what you want? Like, you know, go back out there in the field.

SPEAKER_02

And it's like she's here amongst us for a reason. Yeah, but you gotta earn that.

SPEAKER_03

I had to earn that to be there, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, in a sense, you know.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I was about to say. Like now it's like that for sure. But it wasn't like it wasn't, and that that's what brings me back to to get back to right to the the point I was making is back then, y'all was talented though. It wasn't, yeah, you know, if you was trash just because you was a female and I you wanted the support, I wouldn't have just been like, all right, nah, you know what I mean? Like I gotta, I gotta, hey, y'all really spitting, y'all really rapping. I respect that. But now I'm like, yeah, I've I'm with the whole female takeover uh aesthetic and all that of it, you know what I'm saying? But you know, shout out to the talent, bro. Like, it does suck though for for women because they can be the just the look. Yeah, you know, and then that sells. That's human nature, it's gonna sell. But if you're not talented, I don't give a.

SPEAKER_15

It only goes so it only lasts so long.

SPEAKER_02

Um also the catalog is a vast, vast. Like you got one of the most extensive catalogs from like the most like talented artists in the city. You know, that's um, you know, I just gotta give you roses for that because and it's it's not like it's um fire songs sprinkle down, but mostly trash music. It's everything's fucking fire, like you know, and there's not a lot of artists you can say that about, so you know.

SPEAKER_03

I just gotta do it. Yeah, you definitely not uh I'm not dropping songs just to be dropping them. You know what I'm saying? This is and it's it's like uh you're not somebody I'm just like oh key or drop, that's what's up. No, I'm like key or drop, let me go see what she's talking about because she talks about shit. She really says shit, she really get, you know. That's still you rapping your ass off on it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_15

I was like, let me lighten up a little bit because uh remastered, I thought I was rapping, rapping, right? That and chapter chapter X. And some, you know, obviously there's certain albums or EPs where it's like I was rapping on this and I feel like people wasn't receiving it well or whatever, you know. And it's like, all right, let me just have fun, let me have fun right now. And then I, you know, just how we was talking earlier, it's like I feel that that um people listening to the attention span of today's listeners is just not how it used to be. And it's like, that's why I went to just doing EPs. Like, let me give you just four here, six here, or whatever the case, so you can actually regurgitate it. So it's like this EP, new EP, I'm KRP, baby. Tell me how are you? Shameless plug. Um, is literally like 11 minutes. So it's like you could literally play it on your way to work, you could literally play it while you're trying to brush your teeth, and that's it. It's like I'm not even trying to take too much of your time. I'm just boom-boom, in and out. Like, here you go. And it's a vibe all the way through. That's a dope concept.

SPEAKER_03

That's a dope concept. Just forget it and quit it. You know, I'm quick, man. I drop in your ear real quick. It elevates you a little bit. That's it.

SPEAKER_02

Right. No, I like the um, I like the EP. You know, I listened to it while I was at the gym. And one thing I like about Apple Music is that it it will repeat the album one time, you know, while you're listening.

SPEAKER_15

To make sure you heard what you heard, type.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I'm over here listening to it. Wait, it was a couple songs, and then I heard the first song start again, but I was I wasn't mad. I was like, shit, I'm still squatting, like I'm gonna let this play through again. And it was just as good the second time around as it was the first time around.

SPEAKER_15

I take that. That's a trophy to me. I take that. Yeah, I fucked with it. I appreciate that. Because y'all know Illy be getting his, you know. I thought he probably wouldn't listen to some Waka Flocka. You know, but he was listening to KRP and we appreciate that. No, I mean there's a walk of the thing.

SPEAKER_02

There's something where I gotta have like my real heavy sets, I gotta have like a thumping ass song or something that's like you know, really victorious. But you know, on the sets where I'm trying to like feel the full range of motion on a set, or you know, like really trying to get the pump. Hey yo, I gotta I gotta have that. You know, if I'm out here chasing a pump, I gotta have uh some music that's like makes me think. Yeah, because then I I get the mind to muscle connection. Nah, for real.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I feel you. Well, when I'm at work, that's how that's how it's like for me at work. Like if I'm in there trying to like really get shit done and shit, you gotta put some hype shit, you know, some shit that just sounds good. You rap along. But if I'm like working, I'm in there just chilling, making sure I get shit right and everything's cool. You be putting on RB. No, yeah, I do. I do. I am an RB uh hella RB. But when when I listen to songs while I'm doing that, I'm really focused and shit. That's when I listen to the most deep. That's when I catch bars that I never heard ever in my life and shit. I listen to a song we've been listening to for 25 years. I'll be like, I never knew he said that, fam.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Legit, that's a cheat code for the gym, too, RB. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah. RB for offer lifting is like, for some reason, you get a Bessel, uh, uh Bessel.

SPEAKER_03

A Bessel.

SPEAKER_02

A bet a better mind-to-muscle connection. You like to think about the each one.

SPEAKER_15

I'm gonna try that next time I go when I go to the gym tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02

Don't do it while you're doing any heavy shit.

SPEAKER_03

If I'm doing heavy shit in the gym, listen to RB, I'm only going crazy because I'm heartbroken. And then if you got a voice, just bust out singing a little bit.

SPEAKER_14

The lady's gonna look at you real quick. Give you a cheek. Now HicTe's for the come out with an RB album. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. We're hitting the budget.

SPEAKER_03

Us? That's my hit single, man. We've been promoting it every evening.

SPEAKER_14

Studs and buds. It's crazy. But I'm here to support it. I'm gonna I'm gonna support it. Y'all make sure y'all get studs and buds when they drop it.

SPEAKER_03

Just me with a five-half blunt.

SPEAKER_14

Studs and buds, though.

SPEAKER_03

That's the hit single.

SPEAKER_14

You gotta have bubbles on your lip. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

I gotta be with the blunt. You gotta it'll be all shower vocals, fam.

SPEAKER_02

Henry chess and shit.

SPEAKER_03

When I when I think nobody watching, and I think I'm really singing my ass off, that's what's going on the album.

SPEAKER_02

Um do you got anything lined up as far as current events?

SPEAKER_15

Yes. Um, so what is that? Uh May 17th, I will be gracing the stage for the Whammy Awards. It's my first time performing it for them. So I appreciate that. Um, shout out to D Von. Shout out to D Scream. You know, like yeah, these scribe, man, he be um putting me I or any a lot of the opportunities I get. I'm gonna get into the next one too, but a lot of the opportunities I get is from somebody who mentioned my names and rooms I wasn't in, and I really thank y'all for that. I want to say y'all like God is using people to bless me, and I really do appreciate that, you know. So I always want to shout him out, shout or shout whoever out that does that for me. Um, and then also May 28th, we'll be at uh the Cooperich for the finales, or I'll be performing the for the final night for the uh you know MKE beat. Let's go. And that's my birthday, May 28th.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna be in the building.

SPEAKER_15

So we so it's already, you know what I'm saying, a celebration, so you gotta pull up.

SPEAKER_03

I told Ivan I need uh 38 minutes. Random ass number I need 37 minutes, man.

SPEAKER_15

Our boy Illy gonna be, you know what I'm saying? He's I'm gonna be in the finals. So he's competing. So it's a family affair. Pull up, you know what I'm saying? He's gonna go crazy. He already told me he got the beats. I don't know who he's going against, but get your shit together. Jay. I hope you're ready, man. Jay Billa. Jay Dill. Oh, yeah. Well, get hey, get it together, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Jay Villa. I feel like I feel like when you get the name of a super famous legendary, you gotta go crazy, bro. So Jay Billa gotta come on with it, fam. Let's go. If not, you're not the Diller looking ass. It's a vibe, though. Start ripping up and shit, start fucking me.

SPEAKER_15

Shout out to breaking it entering. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but uh, and then you be you goes against uh I forgot Doc's name. That's gonna be a crazy bro.

SPEAKER_15

That's gonna be it's gonna be man, yeah. This year it's gonna be crazy. I'm excited, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Super ego's opening up the whole shit. Let's go.

SPEAKER_15

Super ego is uh I'm so high, I'm so um proud of him for how far he's progressed. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like I I got a chance to see him in the summer um performing for um oh my god, uh dang. I uh super ego, yeah. But he was performing right on I want to say State Street, yeah. New state, new state MKE. There you go, New State MKE. He he tore it down.

SPEAKER_03

He wanted those ones where he could just set up a fucking speaker somewhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_15

And he's making the beats right there, or he's chopped like it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I just rap his ass off, and I think that's so dope. He knows how to like not cuss and just rap about you know he be doing like the fucking, you know, he would just be himself, like real eclective. But it'd be cold like that.

SPEAKER_15

He be rapping his ass off when he rhymes. He really do. Like, you really gotta catch him. Like, like listen to what he's saying. He really be rapping. Him and um, shout out to the shameless plug to Mecca, too, Mecca Milo. Because like he does the finger drumming too, like all his stuff that he's rapping over, he actually produced. And the shit be like beats that you would be like, Dog, did Jada Kiss rap over this? Or did Jay-Z? Like, his beats are so like you know what I'm saying? Like cold, like hip hop. Like, yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_03

Why can't you think a dog's name? Who? What's dog's what's Rockefeller's producer's name? What the fuck? I can't think of his name, uh Rockwilder, just blaze, just blaze, just blaze. Why could I not think of that thing's name? But yeah, uh Mecca's very just blazed right now. Yeah, yeah. He got that whole aesthetic and and he did it, he did it. He he went to the uh he I watched him win a beat battle doing that with just straight finger drums, bro. Yeah, not one of them did he play, bro. He fucking the whole thing, he did like four rounds. Milwaukee's so talented. Oh, I love it. We say that to say Milwaukee is just so talented. It's crazy. We all over the place, yeah. Shout out to all them people, fam.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03

We all they all gonna be on here spitting, fam. All over.

SPEAKER_02

Speaking about Milwaukee talent, let's go into your second song.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, this is no fronting.

SPEAKER_03

No fronting.

SPEAKER_15

Off of the I'm KRP, baby. Tell me how are you? EP available right now on your favorite streaming platform and www.kia rapprincess.com.

SPEAKER_03

Kia like the car, but more expensive. Oh man, I gotta check it out. I gotta get my website game up for me.

SPEAKER_02

Man, right. Let's go this type of plug-in. We want your artists to be doing out of it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go, Kia Rap Princess, no front.

SPEAKER_15

My name is Famous, my name is Famous, shout out to Famous. Yeah, shout out my boy Famous. Hey, what it is, what it do? I don't care a peak, baby. Tell me how are you? I don't prepare for the meal. Last of them, no time. Tell me how you feel. Let's just try to let me get uh let's do it on my house you wanna ring the baby daddy, they get no win. I think I need you to break that down. I got the jump. I just did you with the left and that's just trying to let me get some. And if it's good, I might help you in a ring cup.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

See, that's the shit we talking about right there. Like, your shit is just a vibe, dog. Man, I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm telling you, the performative, the performative side of your shit is fucking fantastic.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03

That's the only word I can think. Fantastic, man. That's impeccable, impeccable standing. That shit was fire.

SPEAKER_02

Help you when a rent dude. I heard your baby daddy ain't got no income.

SPEAKER_15

What you need, baby. You feel me? Hey, fellas, y'all gotta start saying that. She is no woman, you like what you need, baby? I heard your baby daddy ain't got no income. I know you need this photy. What you trying to do with this phone?

SPEAKER_04

I know you need to crazy. I know you need this phone.

SPEAKER_14

I feel like if you accept that, I'm gonna be like, I'm saying maybe it's just 40 for gas, but not today. She needs 400 for gas.

SPEAKER_02

Man, I'm gonna be calling again tomorrow.

SPEAKER_14

I just I found 40.

SPEAKER_02

Walking out the mic crazy.

SPEAKER_14

What you trying to do? From the from the mouths of the fellas, ladies, you gotta step it up.

SPEAKER_15

It's no longer worth 40 anymore.

SPEAKER_04

Not in this economy. No, it would it's kind of no, y'all just said it.

SPEAKER_14

It said you you damn it you do, you damn it you know.

SPEAKER_15

He said, I feel like you said I'm gonna look at you crazy if you charge me 44. So we gotta come up on a price. I gotta pay at the same time. He like, but I want a deal.

SPEAKER_14

Like, come on, bro. It's like a makeup. You still want to use my coupon make double the fucking state, nigga. Well, if I'm paying a dollar, this coupon is good until 6'1, though. It gotta be better for the more. No, you gotta charge more, but right now the coupon is good until 2020.

SPEAKER_02

Look here, baby. Charge what you want, but some expectations coming with the price. All right, all right, all right, 40 bucks ain't good.

SPEAKER_03

It's not a good look.

SPEAKER_02

All right, yeah. I'm paying 300 for it, it's coming with some stipulations. It's coming with some stipulations, coming with some rules.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_15

I want to give a shameless plug. Hey, but I want to give a customer testimony testimonial. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Ellie Tent for sending me out, you know, and keeping the weirdos out of my damn face and the sun at the same damn time. Okay, so we appreciate that. See my boy Ellie Tent.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, let's go.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, KRP certified.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we we get it done, yeah. Um, also, I want to turn it over to you, see if you wanted to shout anybody out in particular, or you know, I know you already dropped your um you know your website, but you know, if you just want to restate it again.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, www.kia rapprincess.com. Kia like the card, but more expensive. Um, please go check me out. You know what I'm saying? Why get it from them when you can get it from me, right? So there we go. Um, shout out to Timeless Studios because they uh do all my mixing and mastering for my tracks, you know. So shout out to Angel Romero, Timeless Angel, you know what I'm saying, for uh mixing and mastering this project. Shout out my boy TK also, you know what I'm saying. Um, shout out my sis, Kaylee Crossfire, who blessed the the EP. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Um shout out to Steve the Stoner, you know what I'm saying? Steve the Stoner is on the EP also. Um, you know, shout out to man, shout out to everybody who has continued to support me. So many of y'all, shout out to the people that just stop me when they see me at the venues and just give me my random flowers. I love that. And thank you so much. That's you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think we that's a lost thing. Like, we think we can just too cool to tell each other, dog, you dope. Keep going, keep doing your thing. And anytime somebody does that for me, you don't even know what type of mind frame I could be in at that time. And like I said, it's like a sticky note every time someone does that for me. So, shout out to y'all for loving on me, you know what I'm saying, all these years. And yeah, man, as long as y'all want it, I'm gonna keep, you know what I'm saying? Just get it, keep giving y'all this music.

SPEAKER_03

Real quick, what's the the clearly state the name of the album so I could put it up? I'm gonna put it up on it.

SPEAKER_15

I got you. I'm KRP baby, tell me how are you? So, like, even with that um that first line off of the no front, that's the first track on the the uh the EP, and it comes in what it is, what it do. I'm KRP baby, tell me how are you? So, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

It was kind of giving y'all like you know, talking the panties off right off the rip.

SPEAKER_15

Hey, hey, if that's if that if that's how they fallin, you know, we just you know, but yeah, um, what else? Um, yeah, like uh and shout out to like I said, everybody who has had something to do with, you know what I'm saying, just me at coming to every to this level, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I got more levels to go, but like up until this point, I appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_02

You definitely doing the damn thing.

SPEAKER_03

Man, thank you. It's crazy too, right? Like sometimes when people when they when people do show you love, like you you don't be knowing how to like I'm like, yeah, thanks, bro.

SPEAKER_15

Like, yeah, because it's like you're trying to be I mean, it's not you're trying to be humble, you're just humble. It's just like that's part of your spirit. It's like you're humble, like, yeah, enough about me. How am I gonna fuck with you?

SPEAKER_03

You know what I'm saying? I'll be at the shows just to go show love, and they'd be like, Man, hey Heck, man, you a beach baby.

SPEAKER_04

You ever met Heck? I'm like, No, that's cool, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I'm here for you, man.

SPEAKER_04

I'm just trying to be myself.

SPEAKER_02

I think as artists, we just have to remember too to you know, when somebody pays us a compliment, say thank you. Yeah, yeah, you know, they're they're trying to bless you and give you a little bit of encouragement. And a lot of times, like you said, we don't know how to take it respond back right with that. But like a lot of people don't even fucking give a thank you.

SPEAKER_15

You don't then you don't deserve another damn compliment. That's it. Like you're not too big to just be like, I have done that before.

SPEAKER_03

Like, hey bro, you you one of them ones, bro. They'd be like, Yeah, what's up? That's what's up.

SPEAKER_15

You're never too big to just say thank you, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, bro, okay, that's cool.

SPEAKER_15

Like, you know, I'm never too cool to say thank you. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

That's one thing I can say about you as well. Like, when I saw you at um you did the beat battle that was at the rave, and um, you know, like I was like, oh, what up? And then you know, we were talking about your project, and I gave you a compliment, and one of the first things you said was thank you, you know. So like you were real approachable, you know, and I'm assuming if that's how you were with me after not having seen me for a while, that's how you probably are with everybody. Yeah. So I just encourage artists to be like that, you know, just be approachable. You know, yeah. If somebody takes the time to listen to your music, you know, take the time to thank them.

SPEAKER_15

I think one thing that can help you put it stay in that mind frame is that there was a time nobody gave a fuck. Ever about shit. So, you know, never forget the times when nobody gave a fuck. Everything, yeah, no matter what.

SPEAKER_03

You was giving your all plus whatever. You doing every show, every open mic, every showcase, you doing videos, you doing fucking, you trying to, you know, interviews are more of a thing now. Back then, there's rarely anywhere you could actually go like and do this and get on camera and shit, you know. Yeah, yeah. So it was like people really didn't care, bro.

SPEAKER_15

No, and shout out my boy famous too, because famous has been a part of this trajectory, also. Like all the videos you've seen from 2016 on up. That's so crazy. So, yeah, all my videos for the most part are. That's facts. If you see Kia working famous, be there. Famous is there. Yeah, so shout out my boy Famous, Professor Famous at that. My boy Professor, yeah, to the youth, bro. Yeah, man. And I love that for him, and he loves them kids, bro. To the kids watching, famous love the kids. Yeah, I'm just trying to tell y'all, man.

SPEAKER_02

He's a beast, man.

SPEAKER_15

The videos are hey, not only just the videos, he's an artist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a beast on that microphone. Y'all just don't know. He done played some stuff for me. Yeah, he played some stuff for me that ain't even dropped yet, and I was like, Yeah, so he wouldn't have one video.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, Yeah, I got that on deck type shit. He'd be like, all right, whatever, I gotta do that. He'd be like, Yeah, I'll be doing my shit. I'm like, oh damn, that shit was hard.

SPEAKER_15

What the fuck? Doug, he just be his regular self, bro. He just shorts, no matter what type of weather, bro. With uh lucky shit, bro. With sandals, fam, with slides. That's my boy, man. Swed sandals and slides, fam. Just man doing monumental stuff. So shout out my boy, famous. Be 40 degrees outside. Don't gang, dog. I'll be like, bro, he'd be like, man, fat guy problems, bro. I'll be like, dog, he's so funny.

SPEAKER_02

He does. All right, um, let's dive into this interview portion. Um, give us a summary of uh who Kia Rap Princess is and what you hope to stand for.

SPEAKER_15

Um, a Kia Rap Princess, obviously a north side representative Milwaukee, but on in all things, you know, um a uh female hip-hop artist who is secure in who she is, you know what I'm saying, has a pertinent voice and powerful voice on the scene, you know. Um, I feel like I've I've uh in a not trying to do way, but in some ways, have open doors for not only just female rappers to do certain things in our city, but artists, period. You know what I'm saying? Just by the way I moved or the by the way, yeah, by the way I move, you know, like the way you move in certain situations can affect the person that comes behind you. And sometimes you don't even know that you the you're you're the prototype or you the first person to do this in that you know sense. Yeah. It's certain things that I didn't know I was the first person to do, or that they were just trying this out for. And it was like, oh, maybe we can, you know, do this with other, you know, Milwaukee artists. It's like, yeah, you should actually like yeah, do that with other Milwaukee artists, you know. Um, so I just try to also be aware of my um, I guess, um, power on the scene or whatever the case, or star power, whatever people would call it, or whatever, and try to do the best with it, you know what I'm saying, and be responsible with my voice and be responsible with who I am as an artist, you know.

SPEAKER_03

And I think that underlying that last thing you said, you you can feel that by meeting you, being around you is genuine, and you can just tell that you're trying to the responsibility is there, you know. And for me personally, as heck, like I talk shit all day. I be talking shit, I see people all about whatever. But at the end of the day, hey bro, I'm so happy that you're alive, I'm so glad you're well, and I'm so glad that you're doing something that's positive and uh forward moving, you know. So, and I get that from you all day. So that responsibility line is facts, bro. Y'all should y'all should take a lot more interest in that, as a matter of fact. Everybody everybody should be should feel responsible, especially if you get to a point where, like you said, you were just doing things and didn't even know. Like, oh, I was the first one they tried that with.

SPEAKER_15

Like I didn't know how important it was or that anybody cared how I showed up to the Am Fam stage when I got that was Yeah, I'm saying when I got that opportunity to perform at Summerfest.

SPEAKER_03

Matter of fact, the people that I was talking about earlier when you performed and had them singing on the mic and shit, they went to the trippy red shit.

SPEAKER_15

Really?

SPEAKER_03

And they seen you, and they they was like, I remember her from the last time when we and all that, and they was that they was rocking with you. They showed me, they was all happy to show me and shit. I went to go see Kia was rapping, bro. They showed me the video, I'm like, man, I was supposed to go to that, bro. Like, and they was like, bro, she had that shit rocking, and I'm like, oh, that's what's up. But shit like that. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm just gonna say, 'cause it just crossed in my mind, I always do this, so I just keep saying shit out loud. But you might have one of the only track records as far as performances that I would even consider following. Wow. Like you did a lot of shit where I where I look and I'm like, I would love to do that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because there's a lot of shit that I would like, I don't give a fuck about doing. You know what I mean? But uh a lot of the shit you be doing, I'll be like, I'll I'll do that, man. I would participate in that. And she, I'm happy as hell she got that, bro. But because that's a good look. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_15

Again, fam, somebody mentioned my name. Some good people at Radio Milwaukee and different radio stations who have had me on their platform or you know, just know of me, have spoken my name to those folks. I didn't even, um, I didn't even go out for it that year. You know, they just like necessarily they just reached out to me, like, yeah, some good people that we trust said that you would be a good person to open for this position, you know, for this uh, you know, show. And would you yeah, I would. Like it was like, yeah. But then it was like right when I got off the phone, it was like, wait a minute, this is bigger than me. You know what I'm saying? Damn, this is this ain't just about Kira Princess. This is about if I do this correctly, and you know what I'm saying, whatever, it can, I hope, open doors for other Milwaukee artists because we deserve to be. I've been saying this on you could go back to any type of vlog I've done before this one, you know what I'm saying, whatever, where I was talking about, yeah, I'm gonna get on Summerfest one day or whatever the case. And I was saying they need a Milwaukee stage. We need a stage that's dedicated to Milwaukee artists. How can you have a major platform, Summerfest, like Summerfest, one of the biggest, one of the biggest outside, and not have a stage or that's dedicated, and we don't want just one hour. Give us our stage for a day. Yeah, a whole day like a whole day of just Milwaukee artists. It should be every day. Give us that, bro. It's it's cost y'all nothing to give us that and not put us on. Shout out to those stages that we were, because we both performed on the renegade stage. Facts.

SPEAKER_03

From when it was, you know, like two, two, three times. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_15

So let's go, that's not small beginnings, right? So we both are are products of renegade stage. So shout out to BB too. Hey, BB, because I know you're gonna be watching this. Shout out to you for, you know what I'm saying? Because right, it these type of people, you know, um, promoters or whatever, you know, they put their heart and sweat and soul and ideas into doing things like that. And even if you look at it as, man, that little stage or that little no, but that little stage was on a big, you know, platform, you know, and somebody had to do that, you know what I'm saying. And they at least gave us some time to get on there. You feel me?

SPEAKER_02

I think the whoever the promoters are and whoever's in control of that would actually be pretty shocked and surprised at what could come out of dedicating like an actual bigger stage to Milwaukee artists for each day for the entire day type shit. You know, because there are a lot of good artists and the amount of constant flow of fan base for those artists could be very valid. And then not only that, but if we ever hope to be as big as a city like LA or Atlanta or um, you know, Texas, uh Houston, you know, if we ever hope to be like these cities, we have to back our own artists. We do because and not just when they leave. Yeah, that's how you build up a image around them in a buzz, and like, oh, I saw them and they were on a really big stage, not like just one of these little side stages, you know.

SPEAKER_15

And we can't even say it like, and then we have to be responsible with how we say stuff too, you know. Like we can't just look at everything because that's people try to play me when when I first did the rave. That was my my first time actually doing the rave. I did pay to open up for future, right? But I was on the bar stage, and instead of people perceiving it as man, Kia gonna be at the rave the same time as future, you know, opening or whatever on an opening stage, they was like playing it like, yeah, but she at the bar. Yeah, yeah, that's what they do. Even though the ticket was the same ticket you could have got for me to get in that night was to see future. Then we talk about this is dirty sprite future at the time, who at first just like was kind of flowed into this concert, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So from that point, then get into actually being on the stage, and now I'm opening for Benny the butcher, but I'm on the same stage. Yeah, yeah. So it was like when I there's levels, right? Like I did it this way, and then as I I kept going though, because if I didn't have kept going, that wouldn't have happened. Yeah, you know, I had to keep going. What if Kia would have stopped then? Like, man, it's talking down on my name, and nobody believes, like, whatever the case, then she wouldn't have opened the door for Kia to be who she was to open for Benny the Butcher during hip hop week on uh on a main stage at the raid.

SPEAKER_03

But to that point, how you said earlier, a little just a little minute ago, you said uh you know, you realized that you were put uh you were you were representing for all the hometown artists that would get an opportunity, or yes that you since you're the first, you couldn't have fucked it up. You could you could have went in there on some bullshit, been on some fucking just just unprofessional bullshit. You know how you be. So you ain't no fruit boat back here, you know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04

Hey man, people's trash and shit, you know, just doing stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Chicken and watermelon being unprofessional, like showing up late, or you got you got fucking sustainable fucking shit, bro. No, but you know what I mean though, like you could have fucked it up for everybody, and I don't think people understand that they do that when they fuck opportunities like that up. Yeah, when you're gonna be able to do it. Gee, I take it personal.

SPEAKER_15

I don't think you should take it personal every time you get a fam, you but not only that, I take it personal because what if behind me comes heck, comes Illy? Yeah, you know what if like I okay, if I get a new platform that I'm on or whatever, it's like, yeah, I'm on this dope stage, whatever. Like, I don't know if dang, is this the first time they had a hip-hop artist in Milwaukee, or is this, you know, whatever the case? I try to do my research. Well, who did it before me, or whatever the case? And then it's like, damn, this the first time I have a hip-hop at this, you know, you never in the background, you never like I don't like hip-hop music, so I don't want hip-hop on this stage.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And you gotta prove them wrong. Yeah, and somebody's you know, vouching for us, and there's somebody always who might be against us, you know. So it's like, like you say, we gotta prove that person wrong.

SPEAKER_03

You gotta prove them wrong, but you have to put your best foot forward. Professionalism goes a thousand fucking miles long, fam. Like it takes you a very far, bro.

SPEAKER_15

And then with that, I do my best to also come out and show love to other artists when I'm not performing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like that matters. Like, I wasn't, I didn't have to perform on the stage for Summerfest when the MKE groove was going last year, and I still showed up. You can ask the shell. I was I showed up both days, you know what I'm saying? Or that whole or the you know I'm saying when she was doing it, I showed up to support those artists. Like it's like, yeah, I know a few, I don't know a few, but we gotta fill this up. Like, Milwaukee needs to be here. You have no excuse to be at Summerfest and you don't at least go down there and be like, let me see what the hometown time like, bro. We don't give a damn about Garth Brooks. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like there's somebody who cares about Garf Brooks, but at the same time, I'm saying, us as people and citizens of Milwaukee, please make it a point. If you know that you're at a big venue like Summerfest or any venue or whatever, it could be Locust Fest, it could be Bayview Bash, wherever you at, and you know it's Milwaukee artists performing. Make it a point to just go over there and sit in front of the stage and listen. Yeah, wave your hands in the air, waving like you just don't care. Whatever you're gonna do, whatever you think hip hop issociated with. We seen uh a young lady last night during whose segment was that at the show, and she was going crazy.

SPEAKER_14

Uh was that Benny's? No, it wasn't. Oh, it was uh it was it wasn't Mecca, it was somebody, it was fucking but she was just like she was offbeat as ever, but she was going giving it her all to this song.

SPEAKER_02

I can't think of who the fuck her name is.

SPEAKER_14

G.

SPEAKER_02

Can I? No, okay, but you know, because we both seen her and we was like, but I was like, hey, she having a good time, bro.

SPEAKER_14

Like, do you go shit?

SPEAKER_15

She was like, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, yeah, you know, yeah, go ahead and dance, even though you ain't got a rhythm. Go ahead, yeah, whatever you're hearing in your head. But she's supporting that person, and you know, she was happy to support. She was like, you know, it was genuine. It was like we all gonna show love in a different way, but I'm saying that's the least you can do is give somebody your energy for that segment of their time, yeah, or whatever the case. It costs us nothing just to go to the stage and just chill for a second.

SPEAKER_03

I think the new wave is I think the new wave they got going right now, it's a so far. I because I started I've I've started going to new shows or more shows lately, probably this year. So in the last four months, I want to say like the one last night, there was people rocking. Yeah, you know, like people was rocking, there was people listening, yeah, doing callbacks, like people were saying, and people were saying it, you know what I'm saying? Like, so it's it's getting there. I think the point when we was doing it back in 2013, 2014, like we would just get fucked off the whole time, bro. The whole fucking time, everybody's making money but the rapper. True. So then when you're for it's almost like a kid with a fucking parent, like they feel how you're feeling. Yeah, so when you the artist that everybody comes to see, they know you're frustrated, bro. You're not getting paid, everybody playing you out of shit. Yeah, and your crowd starts to feel that shit, bro. And they're like, Well, I'm just gonna stop coming to this shit, bro. Yeah, because this shit getting annoying, they trying to tell us what to do. Uh watch every get your crowd to watch these people and get your like, bro, it's too much, it's too much going on. But now I think it's getting back into a artist fan type. It got to.

SPEAKER_15

It has to be that's the only way it's gonna we're gonna survive. Like, we got so much going against us now. It's like I mean the relationship is between the fan and the artists, artists, anyway.

SPEAKER_03

We just gotta cut out all the middle management ecosystem, yeah. Exactly. The ecosystem has so much bullshit inserted into it, bro, that this you can't get the circle going, bro. Yeah, you know, man.

SPEAKER_02

So speaking about uh your that uh performance, what are a few of your other favorite um moments from your music career?

SPEAKER_15

So obviously, Benny the Butcher Um at the Rave, Stage, Summer Summer Fest 23, opening up for Trippy Red and City Girls. Um, what else? Uh man, um, performing at the music awards in um Atlanta. I did that and I got nominated for a hip hop award out there um with a very popular hip hop brand um in for Atlanta. Like didn't even know that they were still checking for me like that because I had moved back. I had been back to Milwaukee for like two years. But they were still like because I was still traveling out there to go do shows. Um, they were still, you know what I'm saying, supporting me, you know. So the independent, um, the Southern Hip Hop Awards, that's what it was. Southern Hip Hop Awards, I was nominated for female rap artists uh of the year. I did not get it that year, but that was dope to be a part of it. Something like that.

SPEAKER_03

I wasn't exactly stationed. Yeah. Did you feel the love differently since you were somewhere else?

SPEAKER_15

No, because um the time that I had spent, it was intentional while I was in Atlanta. I was intentional while being out there. I was like, okay, I'm here. The same grind that I had in Milwaukee, I gotta have here because now you it's a bigger pond and you with bigger sharks who got money, who got trap money too. You know, so they paying. They they the game is different in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_03

The money's flowing. The money is flowing.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

The monetary shit is going over to it.

SPEAKER_15

And there's a lot, there are politics too there that there is here, but you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, uh, I found out a lot of Atlanta people would hate that not have this disdain for, not hate, because that's a strong word. They would have a disdain for out-of-towners who came there because it was like, I'm a Grady baby and I deserve to be there. So when you are making a certain stribe that they weren't able to necessarily make, you know, during the time while they have been at home, they feel away. Some people may feel away, you know. So I had to navigate through those type of things, still having to navigate through a male-dominated stage or whatever the case, and building my name up. And to this day, I have some great relationships with people out there who still book me for shows for A3C. And yeah, that's another show. I did A3C.

SPEAKER_03

A3C. Damn.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, I did South by Southwest. I never went to that one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I heard it was lit though.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, A3C was lit. I did South by Southwest also. Um, yeah, there's a couple ones. I forgot all about A3C.

SPEAKER_03

That's a whole nother music.

SPEAKER_15

All three coasts, right?

SPEAKER_03

The work, yeah, the work is like I said, like I said, bro, there's there's very few people. I'll be even some of the big names now, they don't go do shit like what she talked about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15

Mile of Music Fest. I want to shout them out too. And Appleton, that's a big that's like Appleton Summer Fest. So Mile of Music Fest, I did that one also um a year two years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_15

Stage is more.

SPEAKER_02

Next question I got for you. What compels you to create and what are some of your sources of inspiration?

SPEAKER_15

Um daily life, things that I go through in life, um, inspires me to write some of the stuff I write, um uh experiences, you know, traveling also, uh different seeing different things, meeting different people, um, getting it to to experience different um realms of different cities or whatever the case will inspire certain things, you know. Like I spent a couple uh I spent some time in Pittsburgh and in the south and North Carolina or whatever. So there's some things like I think that's where I did No Front. That's where I actually uh made No Fronting and Um that East Coast uh uh freestyle that I had dropped called Co Train. I had just released that, I think, in January, but that was written while I was on the East Coast. That's what I said.

SPEAKER_02

Side note, are are you uh born and raised in Milwaukee?

SPEAKER_15

I am born and raised in Milwaukee, Northside 53206 to be exact. Shout out to all y'all.

SPEAKER_02

Because you have like uh at least in my opinion, you have like a southern southernness about you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15

Well, yeah, but I always wondered that. My family is actually originally from Dyer, Tennessee, so we do have some southern roots. My grandmother, though, is from the East Coast. My grandfather's from the south, and my grandmother's from the east coast from um uh Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. That's what's up. Um, last question I got. How can the all four one four all podcast audience find your content?

SPEAKER_15

Man, if you don't find me anywhere else, please believe you can find me at www.kea rapprincess.com. Kia like the car, but more expensive.

SPEAKER_04

This nigga love it.

SPEAKER_15

I love it. I gotta say it so many times so you can like really understand. But on social media, you can find me at I Am Kia Rap Princess on Facebook and Instagram at I am Kia Rap Princess on X. Does anybody I don't I'm not on X as much, guys? I apologize, but at Kia Rat Princess, if you just want to say something. I've never gotten to Twitter me either. I can't, I mean when I do log in and see it, ain't nobody saying nothing to me.

SPEAKER_14

Let me log back out.

SPEAKER_15

Like, I'm not there to say anything, so I don't even take offense.

SPEAKER_02

But I never got to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_15

Even before it switched over, it got too weird.

SPEAKER_03

It did. You know, Twitter was one of the spots where they were super botting shit out of everybody. Yeah, just bots, nigga. And they'll say shit just to get shit cracking. Like, yeah, yeah, fuck dude, or fuck this president or fuck this. And they used to go on there be like, I don't know, nobody on here. All type of think pieces are in the Facebook, Instagram. I at least know half of my followers or whatever. Seriously, you know, like so that's why I always find me there.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know none of y'all, bro.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, so find me there, and of course, you can type in Kia Rap Princess on all your favorite streaming platforms, whether that's Spotify, Apple Music, um, YouTube, Kia Rap Princess, K-I-A, Kia like the car again, but more expensive. But please come and see me at www.kea rap princess.com. Come get it from me.

SPEAKER_02

I'm all for it because heck no, I'm sure I'm like promoter, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I love when people promote, promote, promote. And he loved the uh you got a your own website. Yeah, like he'd be preaching that shit, bro. He'd be so you were saying that he was like proud as hell.

SPEAKER_04

He was like a proud uncle. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02

That's why we do this shit.

SPEAKER_03

That's the funny.

SPEAKER_02

All right, let's go into the MKE music reviews.

SPEAKER_03

All right, man. We're gonna do Kia's pick first. This is getting loud.

SPEAKER_15

By my boy Dion Theory.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, Dion. It's featuring Bionics. I am great 24. We're probably not gonna get to all those. But it's fine. We're gonna uh check this record out because she got the uh honorable mention we're gonna play a clip of too. Let's go.

SPEAKER_08

It's getting loud in here. Smelling money.

SPEAKER_03

That cover's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_01

I've been woman having a total struggle lately, baby, because I smoked a couple drinks and I've been feeling somewhere lately. I've been watching illness, fingers, this attention, and I've been paying it famous, Christmas lady, fabulous when I bitch you with the baby.

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I can smell this green smoke up and this. Go ahead and smoke and put his kitty. What the hell are we about to do? I can smell his baby smoke up and dance.

SPEAKER_08

Go ahead and smoke and put this DT, loud and shaky.

SPEAKER_04

Who was the first one that raped? Uh I think that I think that's Dion.

SPEAKER_03

Dion theory. That's how he's actually in the person. He went crazy. Yeah. Like you're just that, and I like how I I like when they do unorthodox setups to the song. Yeah. Cause I I I I really do be stuck in like, you know, in my ways pretty much. I'll be like, well, it has to be the the verse and then the hook and then the hook and then the verse. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. I love it when like I didn't, I couldn't tell what was going on, but then he rapped and it went right back into the hook, and I'm like, that's your fire.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, and that's actually the remix to that song. And he put like uh at least five, five of us, five Milwaukee artists on that song.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all go check that record out, man.

SPEAKER_15

Please do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And uh I want a chain made of myself like that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, that's that covers oh, bro. That that has me thinking of uh I got a track called Um King Midas.

SPEAKER_13

And look, you get inspiration?

SPEAKER_02

We were thinking about when we were like thinking of the concept for the video. Yeah, so he's inspired. Like that was yeah, that's dope.

SPEAKER_03

That's great. Shout out to Dion Theory. Y'all go check out that getting live record. All right, now we got the honorable mention. This is K Money and J Dub.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, man, like girls from the Milwaukee, man. They did their thing on this play this one. Drop drop it, yeah, drop it off.

SPEAKER_12

Hey K Money official. Yeah. And J Dub and the motherfucker. Y'all look at my cannon. What I said. Hello. I don't want the phone calls. I want the money. Do not call me baby. Send me honey. Call me back. Cash ever sell, that's all I want. Or you can bring the cash, I prefer.

SPEAKER_11

Drop it off. Drop it off. Drop it off. Drop it off. Drop it off. Drop it off.

SPEAKER_10

Fuck a conversation when you come. What you need a love. You ask me now why you from the street. Get up on my mind, drop out.

SPEAKER_12

Hey, I love it more when you spin it. Spin a shit and I don't give a fuck. I'm in the pity. You can you can't tell me nothing. I be working while I'm shitty. Fuck that little money, where the fuck is all my men? Send the money, yeah.

SPEAKER_10

You know I spend it all. Hey, send the money, yeah. No, it's on a car. Hey, he send the money, I'll be shopping at the mall. Hey, I'm getting money. You can watch by mall.

SPEAKER_12

Smash niggas say he like my accent. Envy allo, for whoever accents. Yeah, get the money, send the money, spend it all. Send it here, have the money, send them all.

SPEAKER_10

I'ma get the money anyway. I'ma get the money, get the pay. If he giving money, then I'm straight. I heard he talking cash, but he say, hey.

SPEAKER_12

I don't want the phone calls, I want the money. I want the money. Do not call me baby, send me honey. Call me back. Cash up a zero.

SPEAKER_01

That's how I want it.

SPEAKER_12

Or you can bring the cash, I prefer. Drop it off.

SPEAKER_03

Bro, shit is a vibe to me, man. You can tell they had fun recording that.

SPEAKER_14

I was like, I wanted to be in the video the way they was having fun. Also touching hands. I wanted to be in the video. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

They was in there chugging the motherfucking bottle, like, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_09

Shout out to the video there.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out the girls, man. K-Monty official and J Dub, man. K-Mani and J Dub, and that shit was cold. Uh, when when females rap back and forth like that, it's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_15

Like to but they had they have a good uh chemistry. Yeah, I fuck with the bar and J G shit. I ain't seen nobody really do that since me and Kaylee, so it's like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That beat was hard too.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all like red and meth though. Man, come on now.

SPEAKER_15

Y'all cold with it, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no. That was like some uh A-Bom J G shit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so yeah, yeah. All right, let's go. Uh I like that. Let's brand some brand new shit. I love it, bro. All right, so uh we're gonna go to Illy's Pick. Uh Illy picks Illy. Yo, this is called Shameless Plug.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he be honest. Shameless plug! Yup, but this is uh so I picked this track because my homie actually ended up moving. He was cleaning out his storage and he's like, Yo, I found all these old records, you know, like not records, but like CDs, you know, with yeah, we just talk about that.

SPEAKER_15

He got a tower.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he he sent, you know, the tracks and they were code, so I was like, shit, I'm gonna play one of these motherfuckers on the podcast today. So here we go.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go. This shit called two for eight. That's the actual name of it, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I just want to make sure I want to make sure it wasn't like just a file he's saying I said it wrong. But yeah, this is Italy 2 for 8. Let's go.

SPEAKER_14

I want to be paused and distribute the crap.

SPEAKER_03

What the J the Oh yeah, this is 2010, right here, 2009.

SPEAKER_09

I got Zorro in the steel with me. Zorro, Dave, the producer.

SPEAKER_15

This shit sound like some shit you'll hear the clips on. Okay.

SPEAKER_09

It's official. We run rap like athletes, run trap. Take your way back to the mic checks, and see, we kill the shows with clothes ain't respect. Yeah, believe me, my cool we straight beasty. When it's outside and north side collab, do it for my city, and then you nigga with me. Go for a ride of the life, and I'm busy. Ramble getting busy, for tracks like quizzing, flappy joke loading, sweet little messy. I'm like quizzy, heavy tracks, we get a little more, heavy close on mess, in your hand, little pull on mid I'm full of sounding. I'm helling to squake in the body, I'm full, square, kill the ball, kill the ball, kill the mouth in all the. Nigga, that's in the middle link. We young home, couple of small. Y'all see the kids on a couple of us walking. Why give it a job? Yeah, we steady mobby. Stay low key, but I'm a holla. Kick it in the skin with a flag and a single. You wanna do a thing, nigga. What you gotta say, man? They just better stay out of my lane, I ain't playing. It's really better, do split screen to your brain. Lyrically insane. Bringing major pain to the mix to the game. Damn link when I'm feeling too. When I stole their fans, I feel a storm ruin. Pull the hate from me. Like I ain't the man. But I'm the one that HB is the fucking fan. Yeah, man. Yeah. I always stay up on my shit, guys.

SPEAKER_15

Alchemist. Is ain't that the Alchemist? That's crazy. KRS Illy.

SPEAKER_02

Beat hatch on uh live mixtapes.

SPEAKER_04

From KRS Illy, fan. No, his cadence reminded me of Memphis bleak. I thought I'm about to be like that's even more than a bit.

SPEAKER_15

Yo, cadence from sounding like bleak.

SPEAKER_03

Way better rapping. Yeah, way better. Way better rapping than bleak. Yeah, very good rapping. How did she say that?

SPEAKER_15

The cadence if you were hearing from that cadence sounded like bleak.

SPEAKER_03

I missed those days, bro, where you like had to actually like say it with your chest. You know what I'm saying? Like you had to rap like that back then. Like nobody wants to hear the, you know, it's different now. Now you can chill. I'm like, yeah, you know, you niggas be on there rapping, like, yeah, you know, I'm just rapping. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But back then you'd be like, Oh, you be rapping, rap. You be like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_15

You know what else I don't like? I gotta, I just don't get along with is God or anybody who gets on the mic at like you like for their performance and they lip sync. Oh, uh, do you know we can hear that you're not we talk about that a lot. Do you know we can hear that you're not saying like you're you're not using your vocal cords? I'm saying, like you're moving your lips, but nothing's coming out. Like, you feel me? I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy to me. Stop doing that. That's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_15

We you're not fake. We we can we know.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I've done I don't like that. I've done that out of necessity before on the hook. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's fine. I'm trying to say because I like I rap it up too far. You're trying to catch your breath for a second. Yeah, I'm trying to catch up, so I just you know, I'll I'll act like I'm doing the hook, but I'm not doing my verse with the shit on there, and I'm like, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_15

There's never a time that should happen unless something happened, the core came out your mic, and you just oh, okay, like whatever case, or something happened with the engineer. But there should never be a time where you got the mic in your hand, it's hot, it's green, and you just first of all, that's a talent.

SPEAKER_03

That's a talent. I give you that. For you to look like you're rapping, your motherfucking never thing. And you look like you should be a mom, but you not, bro. That's a talent.

SPEAKER_14

You should be a mom.

SPEAKER_03

That's it. You know ventriloquist, bro. A ventriloquist. Ventriloquist. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Ventriloquist rapping is when fucking. I challenge anybody to try to fucking act like they're really rapping without making a noise, bro.

SPEAKER_02

What I hate is when they lip sing and then they fuck themselves up, and they'll be like, the track is still going in the background. Your face, the mic's over here. We can still hear it perfect.

SPEAKER_14

Like, like we know. It's like, what are you doing? Like, like you think I'm stupid. Stupid, like that's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_15

So I just had to say that. We gotta get that out.

SPEAKER_02

Gosh, it happens more often than not.

SPEAKER_03

Man, all right. So this is far from lip syncing. This is the a cappella. This is only her voice. No, but uh, I actually met I met this uh girl last night. Um, her name's Raspberry Daniels, and she got up there and snapped with the like with the raps fan. No bullshit, bro. Like, I couldn't because you know, she she pretty. So, you know, when they be pretty, you automatically be like, they about to rap about some bullshit, bro. Yeah, so I'm I automatically was like, and I'm not gonna lie, I'll be doing that. I'll be like, oh, you know, whatever. And then she got to rapping, and I'm like, oh she's rapping.

SPEAKER_02

It's about to be a pussy wettered in something bar, all right. All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm like, damn, like whatever. I mean, I wasn't really super paying attention, but then she made me pay attention with the way she rapped. Yeah, and I I say that just to say she cold with it, bro. So she actually doesn't have a lot of music, though. We need you to come on with the shit because you did like four dope records last night, and I could only find one, and it wasn't any of the records that I remembered.

SPEAKER_15

So sometimes it's the type of support, this is the type of support she needs. You know, that people need just giving that extra short.

SPEAKER_03

And that's why I'm putting it on here because I I I definitely want to uh showcase the because I've listened to this, and this is more of a reflection of what she was performing last time.

SPEAKER_15

Uh so Hectec carries and shit. Like, we need a segment hectic carries.

SPEAKER_03

All right, but this is Raspberry Daniels, man. This is her a cappella verse she did. Shout out to a cappella and uh MKE verified and all that. Let's go.

SPEAKER_06

Send a bitch who you think better than better benefits. That's why they choose me. I'm a veteran. Matt, her nigga wanna fuck. Not David. I won't let her, man. Her, she wanna be me. I'm not David, I won't let her, man. Watch me more than TV. Repeat, fuck it. David letter, man. Turtle bitches, cannot read a spell. Go learn your letters, man. Start off with the basics. This ain't map, so use a pen so you cannot erase it. Stamp it, bitch. I'm fair text. Well, Chiang Zoo like I'm Asian. I do this, bitch. I told you, you don't need to use translation. Missed out on the puns. Ain't fun. You missed out on a cadence. Missed out on the puns. They dumb, but not just on occasion. Can't form a sentence. Me, I come with bars. So what you facing? Delusion is a drug, duh. I get why you host, take it. You bitches lace. Can't stand what I'm giving. So you bitches take. Pray to God, like I am. Make me everything these bitches ain't. Sorry for the cursing. Tried to curse me, was it worth it? Tried to bless you, he reversed it. Now step two on the purging. You see, when I rap, I don't tell a lie. Baby, all you tell is stories, just a bunch of lullaby's. All on me. Just like I lost my keys. He trying to rub my thighs. He said, Bam, him. So what are you about? So am I. Don't invite me out. I think all of y'all is boring. Lying like it's lit. Y'all just sit around recording. Keep all my grips comfy. Catch me in a house like Corey. Never finding me like Dory. Every bar fact, true story.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go. Oh no. She rap, man. She would be.

SPEAKER_15

Make me everything these bitches ain't. Hey, but that goes back to what you were saying, right? Like, rappers are poets. And it's like, yo, you could take a rapper, she could have done that at poetry night. And when nobody would have shit. You feel me? Yeah. It's like that's where it put me. It was like, damn, like she rapping at poetry night, but she giving us bars. No bullshit. To a rapper, it's like she giving us bars. To somebody else who's there for poetry night, they'd be like, oh, she's so poetic. My Angelo. She's so poetic. She's the hood. You feel me? Like, like you said earlier.

SPEAKER_03

Her word choice and everything, though. I fuck with her. No, but she had bars. And if she just speaks with clarity, and she, you know. I'm telling you, I seen her on stage and I was like, oh shit, that's cold, bro. Like, I I'm I'm rarely surprised like that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_15

In a world of mumble rap, we really appreciate clarity. I super she'll be that to me.

SPEAKER_03

That's a fucking super like you gotta do.

SPEAKER_15

Shout out to her. What you say her name once again?

SPEAKER_03

Raspberry Daniel.

SPEAKER_15

Raspberry Daniel. Shout out to you, my friend. Let's get it. She got the name.

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Raspberry Daniel.

SPEAKER_15

I don't know. I don't know, sir. We don't know, bro. How you get the name Raspberry?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08

That's why I ain't even gonna ask the question because I score come off like that no matter what you say.

SPEAKER_03

She's like, excuse me, what's up? Get the fuck out of my way. Don't fucking talk to me though.

SPEAKER_15

Who said I heard your baby daddy ain't got no info?

SPEAKER_03

All right. All right. Let's get into these topics, fam.

SPEAKER_13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

We're right on time. Let's go. So the first topic is I'm removing my viral song, I'm getting old from streaming services. And this is the reason why. Do you have like a topic headline for it, or that's it?

unknown

That's it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So this is the reason why. Let's check it out. Actually, I'm gonna go like this.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, we can't why should you? So I uploaded my song, I'm getting old to Spotify Apple Music. I'm getting oh, I can feel it in my back. It's been out three weeks and I'm about to remove it. But let me tell y'all why. Before it was on streaming, the only place you can hear the song was on my album, which is on my website. My new album, the rail value one, is one dollar. When the song first went viral, I was getting album sales back to back to back to back to back. $1 sale, $5 sales, $20 sale, $1 CD sale, $1 sale, $2 sale. Some people were just buying the song. But I noticed once I uploaded the song, the streaming service, the sales went down. Not only that, I don't know who is supporting. Spotify shows up a bunch of numbers like how many listeners, but we don't know who are the listeners. At this point in my life and my career, I like to know who is supporting. Where are they located? Can I contact them again? I want a four next year and I want to alert my biggest afforders when I'm in activities. And number two, of course, is the biggest thing. Spotify does not fight out that much. How do you know that's been out three weeks or something service? On Spotify just caught 300 showings. On Apple Windows, look at 800 trainings. And if I do the math on that, that's about $17 and 30 weeks. Yesterday I got a CD for $20. Somebody else bought a digital album for $1 and another person bought it for $10. That's $31 and 24 hours. Now be honest with me, y'all. What you gotta do? $17 in three weeks for $31 in 24 hours. And like I stated before, it's not just about the money, it's about the data, man. I know who this person is. I know who the $1 cell is, I know who the $10 cell is. This person is from Alaska. Spotify would have just told me you have one listener in Alaska and I don't have no idea who it is. And if I wanted to put a show in Alaska, how would I do that just saying numbers on the screen on Spotify? But when I get 100 sales in Alaska, Anchorage to be exact, I know a hundred people supported me in this city. And I know who they are. So with all that being said, I'm getting old as being taken off streaming service tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03

So I thought that they did break down the cities and shit like that.

SPEAKER_02

Uh certain platforms, certain platforms, and all of them platforms you gotta like pay extra for it.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Damn for like to get that the those analytics. Yeah. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_15

Like now they got tiers and shit. Yeah. Like broke ass nigga. Uh broke ass nigga, medium wage ass nigga.

SPEAKER_09

You almost there's almost there ass nigga.

SPEAKER_14

I say you almost there ass league. Hell, these is the tears. Y'all think we bullshit? That's fucking.

SPEAKER_03

Then they got the ball out here. Richard's ball out, fam. Spend whatever we ask. Oh, you got it? Then here you go. I'm gonna give you this one dollar service for a hundred. You sit there like ball out.

SPEAKER_02

Should I get the oh you got it here? Can I do our guy? That's exactly how people be doing out really.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I don't know. No, but I I did think that that was part of the uh I know Distro Kid breaks down cities and shit, I thought. But what he's saying is 1000% true, is what I was getting at. Like, if you go viral without uploading it to the what's it called, to the streaming services, then the traffic gotta go somewhere. And that's leverage too. And yeah, off the uh my brethren to my left and right, they got their own websites, they got their own uh place for product to be put and readily available.

SPEAKER_15

So I think every artist should take advantage of trying to get rid of the middleman. Yeah, yeah. You know, without making it street, but if we was in the streets, at some point you gotta come from up under the plug and you wanna be your own boss. Yeah, you feel me?

SPEAKER_02

Like you all right, you fronted me, but I got my own like keep saving up until you don't need to go back to the plug to get your ass anymore. You got already saved up right and then now you can start busting that down by your screening up by yourself.

SPEAKER_15

Don't ask us how we know, just take just take the you know what I'm saying, the example is all we're saying. No, no bullshit.

SPEAKER_03

But just like in the streets, when you try to do that, the plug comes to whack your ass out to stuck it.

SPEAKER_15

That's what, but that's what they do.

SPEAKER_03

That's what they do. They be like, hey man, cut this nigga.

SPEAKER_15

I really do feel they will blackmail you, or you know what I'm saying, or just blacklist you without you even knowing. Uh how many people probably feel like, why am I stuffing me? You probably blacklisted and don't even know it.

SPEAKER_02

Like, nah, we can't let this person get above this until they all do it at the same time, they can't get us off.

SPEAKER_15

That's the thing, though. I don't think in this time that people are really ready to mobilize and do something. Like a lot of people want to just complain that I think that's what social media has like cursed us with. Because if we didn't have social media, we would probably more so be in the streets and like with our opinions and our voices, right? But because we have social media, it's like, all right, I feel away right now, let me get up here bam, until the next thought comes up. Yeah, and I only feel about it. Now I now that I get off my chest, I probably only feel about it away for however long, and now the next subject, yeah. And you know, and that's how a lot of traction and a lot of momentum dies.

SPEAKER_02

Some chicken and watermelon, I'll be straight.

SPEAKER_15

Wow, wow.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. Uh this is crazy.

SPEAKER_03

This is crazy for the work. But I I definitely agree. No, yeah, but uh what I was gonna say is when you crack that code like he did, it's to your utmost benefit to just 1000% take that opportunity to fucking streamline everybody to your own shit.

SPEAKER_15

Like, bet on you. Exactly. I think every artist's gonna have that moment where they had a ha aha moment. Like, okay. Like he said, he was like, you rather take $17 in three months, or what do you say, 31 in 24 hours?

SPEAKER_03

And it's not like you can't do that, ride the wave, and then when it's time, you know, when the shit died down, you just go throw it on streaming, bro. And everybody can just have the access to it. Because that's what streaming is. Streaming is the access. Yeah, you get access to anybody that walks up to you, they can use their own phone and just go find it. And I obviously you can do that through your website too, but instead of going on some shit that they're not used to, Apple Music, Spotify, all the big shit, if they're so major that everybody uses it, it's like having an iPhone or a Samsung, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so that that's 90% of the people listening to music are listening on one of these platforms, and that sucks, bro. But yeah, you know, but if you got that, like I said, he caught the he caught the lightning on that motherfucker and just took off with it, fuck it, take it down, fam.

SPEAKER_15

Or are they listening? Because Drake and the Kendrick that uncovered that these people got sweatshops of people with phones just playing hill songs, but like, bro, what is it?

SPEAKER_03

But you still, that that number, when you get that number on your shit, um, since the algorithm is made to reward that, it real people come out of that. So I get the bots, the the problem with the bots, but you know, that's a whole nother conversation. Because you know, they try to make it seem like Kendrick just did bots, and oh, that's the only reason. I'm like, no, everybody was there, every little fucking road was singing that shit, bro. Like, you know, so even if it was bots that uplifted it, real people were listening to that shit.

SPEAKER_02

Well, one thing that I don't like about the streaming platforms is like, say, like when I was listening to your project and then it finishes, it'll repeat it one time, but after that one time, it'll go to some industry artist instead of going to the rest of your catalog. Like, and I fucking hate that shit because I'll I'll be like vibing with whatever artist I'm listening to. It's usually like a hometown artist, and then they just switch to Taylor Swift and shit. Well, yeah, like all of a sudden, such and such rapper, trap rapper, whatever fucking comes on. I'm like, dude, what the fuck? You just kill my vibe.

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, like dude said ice JJ Fish just came out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was listening to some shit, and then it just totally changes off the wall, you know. For real, dude. Like, hey, but now I'd be messed up.

SPEAKER_15

You listen to uh to my all of a sudden ice JJ Fish. Bro, like at least they could do it.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm feeling away immediately. The least they can do is play the rest of your catalog. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_15

Yeah, mad at people when like if you like this from this artist, you'll like this also type shit.

SPEAKER_03

I'm be getting serious when like my shit plays some weird shit, somebody like, oh, you got that on your playlist. No, the fuck I don't. That shit represents me, fam. Hell no.

SPEAKER_02

When when you're listening to this artist, you had to type that artist in to go to listen to the project. Yeah, so if I typed in Kia Rap Princess in the search and then went and listened to your new EP, it should play everything Kia Rap Princess because that's what I searched for. Yeah, not like search for Kia Rat Princess. By the way, listen to this little Dirk song. Yeah, duh like that. That's a perfect example, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Said now playing the voice, looking at well, you know, that's that's what they was calling Drake out about. I hate that like he he used to be like that. At one point, you would go on Apple and fucking be listening to some random ass shit, and Drake would be on there, like next song.

SPEAKER_15

Like, you know, he the powers that be. He wasn't in a broke nigga. Uh you know what I'm saying? He wasn't in a broke nigga tier. So he was in the ball out tier. Yeah, he was in the city. He's in the ball out tier. Like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_03

All right, let's get to this uh last.

SPEAKER_02

Real quick, literally right before we had, right before you had showed up, she was just explaining uh an example of that. You know, today she had sold a like a $50 um CD.

SPEAKER_15

We ain't gonna put you on blast while he wasn't here. But hey, it was a quarter tank of gas mistake, fam. So we ain't even gonna put him on blast. We just gonna everything that happens wrong from today for the case. All things happened for a reason. They did, but while you were gone, while you were away, while you were away, I got a notification that oh, you have a sale from my website, and somebody paid $50 for the EP. I thought that was possible. Let's go. Shout out to you, and even left a message. There you feel me, and they even left a message dropping hot shit.

SPEAKER_03

That is amazing for me. You know, because when you get that, that's a bump of motivation that nobody even can understand. That's what I said. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't even understand how how much that matters to somebody, and that $50 would have taken you a month, bruh.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe more.

SPEAKER_03

I don't even understand for real. Months.

SPEAKER_15

I remember I'll be like, I'll be wanting, who can I call up here? Ain't no way y'all sending me $17.49.

SPEAKER_14

Yeah, $17 after after three months? What is she talking about? What is y'all doing?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, before before we move on, though, to the point she said it actually worked out perfect. But she sent me this post from DJ Payne 1 that he shared. And it says, if you're an independent artist making a living off your art, I don't give a fuck how much money you make, you are winning. The fact that you're doing it is win and don't let anybody else tell you otherwise. Everybody else folded and you kept going. That in itself is success. Keep going.

SPEAKER_15

So I think that's important for people to grasp. That's like the perfect story lead. Seriously. Because even when I was saying earlier, I was like, bro, you like somebody would be like, but it's it's you know, it's always somebody like it's a little ass fifty dollars though. Like, you know, it's 50. Like, but you know, that that 50, you feel me? You feel me? But you know, that 50, like, imagine if 10 people did that. I can go buy or 100, but I'm just seeing it on a small scale. Yeah, 10 people do the same thing and follow, follow suit. I can go pay for another video. Yeah, I can go mix and master another project that y'all might want to hear. You know what I'm saying? Like the the money y'all pour back into me as an independent artist goes right back to into my artistry. I ain't balling out of whatever you're seeing it in real time. Like, yeah, hey, it keeps dropping. That's because people keep supporting me, and I have the money, the means to be able to drop like this or to show, give you visuals, give you different things like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it matters.

SPEAKER_03

So support, you know. Yeah, it really does. Because I don't think people understand how Illy actually he didn't put me on to this, but he always sheds light onto the fact that if you got a thousand people over the course of a year to spend 75 bucks. That's 75,000. 75,000. You just made a full-time paying job off of fucking a thousand people, bro. You know what I'm saying? And that's over a year. I'm trying to get a thousand people. Like that nigga.

SPEAKER_15

That fella who supported me today.

SPEAKER_03

I need a thousand more, y'all. You left 50. Yeah. Like that's crazy. All right, but real quick, this last topic we only got a couple minutes left. Actually, no, we don't. No last topic.

SPEAKER_02

No last topic. We'll just play it real quick and then we'll we'll go straight into the outro.

SPEAKER_04

We'll leave y'all with this looking ass.

SPEAKER_05

Right. It is a good project, your own album with your beats, and you are now ready to put out your own project, your own album with your beats, and you want your artist friends to come bless your tracks, but you don't think you're supposed to pay them. This is incorrect. Yes, you have to pay artists to get on your album, just like artists had to pay you for your beats when they wanted to make an album. If I come to you as an artist because I'm making my album and I need your work, I pay you for your work. As a producer, if you come to an artist because you're making your album, you pay them for their work. It's simple. You are giving yourself your own production. You're not giving an artist your production when you make a project. So therefore, you have to pay for anybody else to come bless your project, whether it's other producers, um, if it is musicians that have to play an instrument on your project. As an artist, I can actually charge you two fees. I could charge you a performance fee and I could charge you a writer's fee. Because those are two different things. I am a performer and a writer. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So basically, what she's saying, I think that this topic coming from her is uh is a personal issue. Like, yeah, I was gonna say it must have been like something very specific, because of course I feel like what she's saying is very obvious, you know what I mean? Like because you're saying if you need me, it's not obvious.

SPEAKER_02

Like it's treated like it's not obvious.

SPEAKER_03

What I'm saying is it's different if we're doing this, like the producers just giving me a beat and it's partly mine. You know what I mean? Obviously, then we're not talking about, you know what I mean? But if if you want me to get on your shit, it has nothing to do with me, you want me to partake in your shit. Of course, I would want, you know. Again, it's all in the agreement though. So it obviously that's a very specific situation.

SPEAKER_15

That's my yeah, no, I feel the same way. I feel, but I feel like, like you said, I I guess that's um per person or whatever case or you know, um, that varies because there's been projects that I've gotten on for producers or whatever case where it's like, hey, I need you on this track. Okay, cool. And I'm not never really all all the time thinking about the front end, you know, because sometimes we can always get it on the back end, and then also you never know what that back end may be. A back end could be uh in you know, somebody whispering your name in a room you weren't in. You know, you just never know who you're working with. And it may seem like at the time, like this person got up to offer, I'm gonna take the money. And you know, in in taking the money, you might be missing the opportunity in the future that could be worth more than the money. You know what I'm saying? So, yes, always get the money, but always do good business, you know what I'm saying? Still, like, can we still do something with this? Can is there a way we can still work together, or is it just about the money for me in this moment? Big facts, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

All right, so that concludes this episode of the all 414 podcast brought to you by Illy, Street Team Hectic, Third War Studios, SG Films, and our guest for episode 40, Kia Rap Princess. If you haven't already, we encourage you to take a moment to subscribe to our channel, like this video, and leave us a comment about the topic that interests you the most. Thank you for watching and come back for the next episode of the All Four One Fo R Podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Stay in your tear, fam.

SPEAKER_14

Please stay in your tear.