All 414 All Podcast Episode 37 W/ PaperStacks & Mo'City

Episode 37 We kick off the first two part freestyle by PaperStacks & Mo'City!! The discussion of how they meet and feed off each others energy takes us along the timeline of their journey to becoming the powerhouses they are to the hometown scene!! We then dive into the topic of promoters and artists and some do's and dont's of being a part of the shows being thrown!!

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SPEAKER_02 0:44

You know how we do it. Baby. We gon' make them feelin' more. Pieces on me and they glitter more. Baby with me, so she's feeling for it. But there's a pecking order. Out of line, make your face to wall three corner. Then I'm out. I got these pieces and they blind out. I got your girl tryna find out. Doc there, if you want me, gotta fly me out. I'll pick around. Come back to recommended, gotta try me out. Only start effects listed is stretching out. Then I'm walking out. Don't mind the hate, but it hurt when they start to doubt. When they call me out, wanna uplift the people I can live without. Wanna see them smile. They've been waiting for a minute, gotta make it now. I've been there for a minute, but I'm spreading out. Been the best in the city, gotta stop them out. Oh yeah. On my jury on lap, lap, baby, bring it in. I'm a fool in that knapsack. Tell me while I stay there. It's the life of a Mac Mac in the city here. You might see me on some rap snacks. I just taste it with snowboard. With the biggest in me. Let's go. Baby. Shut out, shut out everybody, you know. Uh we hear it, we here. We freestyle, we rapping, what it do? RP Big Big T. You know what I'm saying? Baby. R414 Podcast.

SPEAKER_11 2:08

Yeah. Uh yeah. Look, I just shovel my sky walk and do out the fuck out. I ain't even rhyming at. Knowing where my timing at is knowing where to climbing at. Them boys got the fine ass cutting through just like body lack. Mind of a many ass complaining in my speedy track. Places that y'all frequent ain't spaces that you don't see me at. We ain't on the same shit, and we don't think the same shit. You don't think you black pocket. We was on strain shit. FBA, rappin' like it's FDO. Pockets on a heavy hoe. I'm gonna shit like Texas coat. I'm just being warmed up. My shit I'm like that early code. You know I know that cold go, but this is how my startman goes out, close the does. And I'ma need them ties that describes your eyes. I think it's time we put motion in that holy ghost. I kid I joke, I do, I don't unless you will. Man look, I got a chance to look in that wreck in this bitch and we'll be just taking a moment. What's in the people that died that wreckin' the sky fucking eye coming down the mind rapid rounding around the body? I know it's not only this talking about, he ran this mouth, he ran the mouth and spot. He looking at all you got this only for this core like animal life, animal life. Your man just stopped. So what kind of plan you got? You don't. I'm playing, I'm playing. Shout out to the man, we gotta off-14 podcasts. You know what I mean? Breaking that they coming soon, man. City.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

All four podcasts shout it out.

SPEAKER_13 3:55

Let's go, sir. Give them give them boys the horns. I thought twist was in this building.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

Yeah, I wasn't ready, man. I wasn't ready.

SPEAKER_13 4:10

I was not ready for that.

SPEAKER_04 4:11

I thought he was gonna be like, nah, let's do it up.

SPEAKER_11 4:13

He said, I fucked up, but I was like, man, let's just let's just go, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:19

Low key, bro. Low key, bro. I I love that you did that, fam, because it just shows, you know, bro, did this, we really do this. Oh god.

SPEAKER_11 4:25

Yeah, you know what I mean. I can for fashion.

SPEAKER_04 4:27

I fuck up still rap better than you, fam.

SPEAKER_11 4:29

That's you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Let's go. That was cold, bro. I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_11 4:33

And then uh thank you, you know, letting us showcase.

SPEAKER_04 4:36

Y'all, y'all's styles, bro, it they complement each other so well, bro. It's crazy, fam. Cause, and I feel like as as an artist, I rap in all those ways y'all rap, yeah, y'all just got it sold down. Pat, fam. No. Appreciate it too. Thank you, bro. No bullshit.

SPEAKER_13 4:52

And not only do they compliment each other, but they're so different. Yeah. It's different, but it's same, same, same, same. You know what I mean? Like same coaches.

SPEAKER_11 5:03

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate that for real. We talk about that too, though. We like, um I I think he does everything, he's really good at everything that I like. And then type shit. Like, you want that rapper rapper, you know what I mean? You can come over here. If you want that hitmaker, you go over there, you know what I mean? And then like I take certain things from him to become a better rapper, better hitmaker and stuff. So I think that's all it is.

SPEAKER_04 5:25

I think that's the best that's the best way to do a duo. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 5:29

Yeah, facts. No, that's facts. It it's it's just like we brung our own styles to the table, and then we didn't work together so much before this, before the the collab tape that it just makes sense, but it just all go together.

SPEAKER_13 5:43

All right, Mike Check, you now tapped into the R414 Podcast, where hometown artistry isn't just a statement, it's a standard. Before we dive into today's episode, take a brief moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell so you can stay updated on future episodes as we continue to bring you the truest talent our hometown has to offer. I am your host, the 414 Tycoon, more commonly known as Illy. And joining me as co-host is my lyrical brethren, the verbal executionist Street Team Hectic. These episodes are brought to you out of the Third Ward Studios. And joining us behind the lens, we got SG Films. Joining us, we have one of the city's most dynamic duels, the Super Mario Bros. or the 414, Augustus Gloop, and Camp Schoderworth's own paper stacks in Mo City. I gotta do, baby.

SPEAKER_11 6:36

Thanks for having us, man. Great opening, beautiful opening. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_13 6:41

I take a lot of time with those. He be right, he'd be right. I can tell. Hey, researchers. He'd be right.

SPEAKER_11 6:46

Ain't nobody ever spoke that good about me.

SPEAKER_13 6:48

Man, it just it just felt professional. I said, damn, where's we at? As I was listening to y'all's music, um, you know, the the new Super Mario Brothers movie just dropped. You know, and it y'all music gives me that vibe. You know what I'm saying? Like, you guys are so different, but when you guys work together, it's just like flawless. You know what I'm saying? It's like y'all, you know, Super Mario Bros. are a perfect team. You know what I'm saying? Like, kind of how you were saying, like, you guys style complements each other, you know, where one might be weak, the other is strong, and then vice versa.

SPEAKER_11 7:22

Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_13 7:23

I appreciate that for real.

SPEAKER_11 7:25

No, I agree 100%. Like, man, I'm telling you, man, he the reason I'm here for real. Like, he the personable person, man. He did, he the one that he had talked to you, and I was always kind of reserved in the cut because I don't never know what to do. And now I'm way more like open with people and stuff like that, you know what I mean? So it's all about life, man, growing with each other.

SPEAKER_13 7:45

Right. Yeah, and you definitely give that vibe, you know, like you give like a uh more uh outgoing a little bit, you know what I'm saying? And you give more of a like chill layback, you know, so reserved.

SPEAKER_04 7:57

Yeah. That's facts. I mean, and then I I knew of both of y'all separately, but when I seen y'all, well, first of all, Pinky, shout out to fucking That's my shit. That's I fucking love that song. That's that's like a top, top record for me, no bullshit. But uh when I heard Pinky, I almost remember I told Illy, I was I almost couldn't tell which one was which until he was like, me and City, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh well that's that's then, you know what I'm saying? But I almost couldn't tell at first. I'm like, damn, which one is which? You know what I'm saying? Like, bro. So what I was trying to say is I knew of y'all separately, but y'all being a duo to me, I it almost I feel like I've always known y'all as that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, yeah. Because it goes together so so flawlessly, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's dope, though. You feel you feel what I'm saying? Like, but when the Craig and Day Day vision that y'all put out with that pinky record and then the the project, that shit to me is like perfect, bro. I'm like, dog, that's crazy. And then like I said, to people who might not know y'all before they see y'all on here or before they hear that project, and before y'all knew uh, you know, ventures y'all put out for the project, they're gonna automatically think that y'all been a group from day one. You know what I mean? Like, they're not even gonna think like, oh, these people got so different careers that and then they came together, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11 9:13

So yeah.

SPEAKER_13 9:13

So have you guys known each other forever type shit, or like y'all just recently stumbled upon each other and then started collaborating and then. Like 12, 12 years or something like that?

SPEAKER_11 9:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 9:23

Oh, okay. So yeah, y'all known each other for a grip.

SPEAKER_11 9:25

In a way, though, because he know he knew my wife like uh since they were kids, K4. Okay, and then um I met my wife when she was 15 and I was 16. So they have they was already cool. Like her, I already knew about his cousin Miles and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

And my cousin Miles made him the same age. We was like best friends growing up, and that's his wife friend today, still to this day.

SPEAKER_11 9:48

So like I knew of him before I knew him type stuff.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Yeah, we just we just never just met, honestly.

SPEAKER_11 9:54

But I was always at his cousin, uh his his cousin, DJ Molly Miles, used to do all these crazy like parties back in the day. Like you was going to that party, you know what I mean? If you weren't at that party, you definitely had FOMO type stuff, you know what I mean? So we was always at the parties, we was kicking it, and then that was back in the days uh when he was part of that group that did Holy Ghost, right? Yeah. Uh so yeah, man, we've been here, we've been locked in forever.

SPEAKER_04 10:16

It just we just never acted met until we did. And then the music was the the final connection type shit. Yeah, low key.

SPEAKER_11 10:23

That's what's up. That was the craziest thing ever. Yeah. You want to tell a story?

SPEAKER_02 10:27

So uh it was just a rapper in a city. Um he wanted to do like uh like a DJ Cali take. Yeah. So he invited multiple artists to this like meeting and sit down and discuss it. And then um was it collective? Yeah, I believe so. And then I wasn't even invited. I got a guy, his name Big Shaken. He was like not as personable as me. So he was like, bro, I don't know what it's about, bro. Come with me, bro, please. And I'm like, all right. So then when I went, uh the the guy knew of me already, so he was with me still coming. And then um there was a uh a rapper, like he wanted us to go around, say who we are, some of the pops about ourselves. It was a rapper in there, he was like, Man, I hate the term rapper. He said, I'm not a rapper, I'm an artist. Don't call me rapper. Then it was City's turn. City was like, nigga, I'm a rapper. And I was like, he's solid, you know what I'm saying? Cause he ain't like go with the flow of the room. He was still himself. So I was like, that's solid. So I sent him a song the next day, like, bro, I got a track I want you on. And then we've been cool ever since.

SPEAKER_11 11:28

Running through the mill.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

Yeah, that's what's up, though. And so hey, I definitely went through my uh not a rapper phase, though. I ain't gonna lie to y'all.

SPEAKER_11 11:35

I mean, I like you know what it is to me. My daddy was a rapper, okay. You know what I mean? So I'm like second generation type shit. So uh I took that personal. Yeah, yeah. My daddy, my hero. You know what I mean? I'm looking like, what you mean you not a you rap.

SPEAKER_04 11:48

No, right, yeah. But but what you saying is why I I went through that phase. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they they tarnished it so much. They definitely but we knew rappers back in the day, like like you saying, my big brother, my big cousins, all of them. Like when I came to Milwaukee, people like Leto and shit, bro. They they was older than me doing shit that I wanted to do, bro. Like that, that and then you look back at the generations after that, and you're like, bro, they fucked it all up for all of us. Everybody thinks they're a rapper now, so it's like you had to separate from the you know, no, yeah, I can get to that.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Well, see, even the statements, I don't have like a actual opinion either way, as far as like if you consider to be an artist or rapper. It was just more of like, you know, like he didn't go go along what he he like really tarnished it right before he went. I hate rapper, I hate rapper. Yeah, yeah. He was like, And he wasn't everybody else on the idea. You see what I'm saying? Y'all should hate being called rappers too. You see what I'm saying? And he still was just like, no, I'm me. And I said, that's solid. You know what I'm saying? Because somebody else would have been like, yeah, I'm not a rapper either.

SPEAKER_04 12:50

I'm a hardest too. Me neither, bro. What you mean? I'm with this guy. You know what I mean? You see what I'm saying? Nah, yeah. It sounded more like uh City was also like I'm a rapper. What now, fam? Like, look at that.

SPEAKER_11 13:02

No, but that's true though, because like you know, you y'all rap. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You know, yeah, you know the technicality behind rap, right? We gotta start bigging that shit up. Like, yeah, like I think rap is the highest form, like form of art to me. Because like you can say one thing, it can mean four things. Yeah, that don't happen nowhere else. You know what I mean? And like you go, you go through these different flows, the way you pick different pockets, and you do different melodies and stuff like that. That don't happen nowhere else. We gotta start we gotta put respect on our name.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

Hey, you know, what you just made me think of is like, you know, like how uh when when people be painting and shit, right? Yeah, you could you could make like a streak on a piece of paper, and then you can just make up what you think that, oh well, you know what that really means. My soul was flattened when I was younger. Oh no, this line represents the flattening of my soul looking at. So it's like, you know, with words, bro, with words, you can have different meanings, but there's still a a uh a blueprint. There's a set parameter, bro. You can't just go out, you know, it can mean four things, but at the end of that four, you can't be like, well, what it really means is nah, it means one of these four, five, whatever things it means. You know what I'm saying? But you were skilled enough to put it in there. Yeah, that's what makes it. That's what that's what the skill set of putting that together and making it mean, you know.

SPEAKER_11 14:14

So I don't think no other art form has that skill set, you know what I mean? I mean the club.

SPEAKER_04 14:19

I love when we do the pod, bro, and people say shit like that. Now I'm gonna be at home like nobody. See, but like me, nobody else. Ain't nobody fucking with us.

SPEAKER_13 14:28

Personally, for as much as I love the term rapper and is as much pride as I take in being a rapper, yeah, I I would look at what you said more so as lyricism. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:39

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 14:39

Because like you can be a rapper and not talk about shit, but still technically be a rapper. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, but once you're like a lyricist or an MC, you know, that then that kind of changes the caliber of rapper you guys.

SPEAKER_11 14:53

The category.

SPEAKER_13 14:54

Yeah, you know, so the rapper is just kind of a catch-all. Yeah, the umbrella term for me, you know, is for as much as I because I'm like you, I love being a rapper. I've never been the type to be like, I'm not a rapper. I used to say that shit right now. I'm an MC or I'm a layers to be.

SPEAKER_04 15:11

But but he's solid But he's proving my point though. He's proving my point because they fucked it up so bad that we had to put that category in there. Like it didn't used to, you know. I mean, not that it didn't used to, but it it was more or less it was more coveted. Exactly, exactly. Perfect word, yeah. More coveted now. Now it's just like you a rapper, me too, bro. You know, my grandma and her and her friends rapping shit too. They're like, Wow.

SPEAKER_11 15:34

Yeah, we did we we definitely diluted the word.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

Yeah, the flo the the flood gates up, anybody can be considered as one now.

SPEAKER_13 15:40

Yeah, so and we talked about this on earlier episodes. I like, you know, when you kind of go somewhere, and nowadays sometimes you don't even announce yourself to be a rapper just to like you know see where everything else is going. You know what I'm saying? Breathe room and shit. Because it's like, you know, sometimes it's just like I'll I'll say I'm a window tenor before I tell people I'm a rapper sometimes, you know, depending on where I'm at and shit, you know. No, you're right. That's how he was saying sometimes it comes with a bad connotation or a stigma, you know. You're right. But it's just like I'd rather just not say that in this environment.

SPEAKER_11 16:16

No, I 100% agree with you. Like, I think um, but it's on us to to to bring that back though. Yeah, we gotta let them know, like, hey man, rap, this is what rap is. Right. You know what I mean? We got a lot of different subgenres, you know. I mean, they're technically rappers, right? But it's on us to, when you hear the word rapper, you think of, oh dang, that little Wayne song from 13 years ago hit me another way, 2000.

SPEAKER_04 16:39

I'm a rapper rapper. I gotta put you gotta put the second rapper. I'm a rapper rapper.

SPEAKER_11 16:42

I'm for real, for real. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 16:44

But uh uh, like uh somebody do need to break down these things and give certain things different titles. Like, like would Don Tolliver be considered a rapper? You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of singing when he and I he's amazing. Oh, he closed he's amazing, but is is that rapping?

SPEAKER_13 17:00

No, nigga, Post Malone's a rapper too, bro.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

I low-key hey, but post talent I like post.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

That's what I'm saying, but that it it does suck that you gotta put that barrier on him, bro. It it should be, but that that's that that's where the artist kind of comes in, because it's more of an art than you are rapping, you know.

SPEAKER_11 17:21

Yeah, yeah. Maybe we got it wrong though, because back in the day, it we they used to be called MCs.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 17:26

The rapper rappers used to be called MCs, right? And then everybody else, the catch-all for rapper was everything else, right? So maybe I'm wrong for how I view it, right? Because maybe I'm really an MC and I'm like cosplay.

SPEAKER_13 17:37

And that's what I would say. I would say if somebody asked me, like, oh, what is you know, Mo City? I'm I'm gonna say you're an MC or a lyricist. I'm not gonna go straight to rapper because you're like the caliber up from, yeah, you rap, yeah, technically, but like you're like, you know, if there was like levels to rap in, yeah, you know, Super Mario type shit, like you're the next level of what rap it is. Yeah, you know, same with you. You know, I would say the same thing for any any of us sitting in this room.

SPEAKER_04 18:05

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's solid, bro. But I came in here like when I think of cold shit.

SPEAKER_13 18:09

When I think of artists, that's that's almost like the same same thing as saying rapper, you know, because there's too many, okay, nigga, you're an artist. What type of art? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, nigga, a painter is an artist, musical artist, bro. Musical artists. Whoever fucking made this tablecloth technically is an artist. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 18:29

Like and I think even to even just like take it what you're saying a step further, I think artists is even more disrespectful. Because if I put an artist in a room and a rapper in a room, I know what I'm probably gonna get from this person.

SPEAKER_13 18:40

Exactly.

SPEAKER_11 18:41

I don't know, I don't know what kind of art you do.

SPEAKER_13 18:43

Right.

SPEAKER_11 18:43

You know what I mean? So like I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 18:46

I think that's not too broad. I think the artist term comes from like if I'm a rapper and I just rap, yeah, then I'm a rapper. You know what I'm saying? The artist term comes more from I can deviate from rapping to making beats, to singing, I can play the guitar, I can fucking play the congos, drums, whatever. Now you're an artist. Now you're enveloping a whole art form, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, as opposed to just being a rapper. I agree. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_13 19:14

Like saying you're an artist gets a little bit more respect from certain people than saying you're a rapper. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, oh, well, you just don't understand my art. You know, you know there's those type of people.

SPEAKER_04 19:27

That's like if you that's like if them little kids that be selling waters on the corners. Yeah. Hey, what you do for a living? Like, if you like, oh, I sell waters on the corner, they're like, get your butt if you're like, oh, I own the water business. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay, that's right. That's all good. You know what I'm saying? Like I sell beverages. I like water. I sell cold beverages and and uh various areas in the city. You know, you gotta make it sound good.

SPEAKER_13 19:49

I got various stands all over the city.

SPEAKER_04 19:51

I'm a vendor. I'm a beverage vendor.

SPEAKER_11 19:53

I'm a vendor.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

Beverage vendor is crazy. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_13 19:56

All right, so uh, I wanted you guys to um give us a brief synopsis of uh your guys' latest albums, not the new one that you're dropping together, but your um I know Mo City got the Milwaukee Wisconsin album, and then Paper Stacks, you got the Keep Winning album. Yeah. Um, you know, we'll start with you and then you know uh Keep Winning.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Um so I dropped a a project before that called Living Different. The the My music has always been uh like flashy, you know, um like the the boss type of uh music, but in real life I actually went through hard times. And so um coming out of those hard times, I felt as though my entire life was looking different from where I was staying, from the cars I was driving, the money I was making. Everything was different, so that's where living different came from. And then it was just like a like a continuation, nothing really drastically changed in my life at that time. But I had to keep keep you know putting my art form out to the world, so it was just like a continuation. So I just keep winning, never stopped winning, and then I started like you know, creating different mindsets of that. Because uh the the reason why we put Jordan on such a pedestal is because not that he just w didn't win one time, but he won multiple times in a row. So is if you would ask him, he would say it's probably easier to win one and harder to keep winning. You know what I'm saying? If you would ask him, you know, but it's just that's just how I look at it. Like I think it's just you know, maintaining success is can be harder than achieving success. Yeah. So that's that's the real big fact.

SPEAKER_04 21:36

I know, like I think it might be for sure harder to maintain it. Oh, yeah. It's harder.

SPEAKER_13 21:41

Just speaking to somebody who goes to the gym, the day I hit 315, now I was like, oh shit, now I gotta hit this shit. Now I gotta do this every day now. I know I can do this, so now I gotta do this often. You know what I'm saying? Frequently.

SPEAKER_04 21:53

Yeah. I definitely agree with that. Shit, bro. I lose twenty pounds every year, three times, bro. Me time. And gain that bitch right back. Might gain another 10 on top of that bitch by Christmas time, fam. No, I'm the same day. Same night.

SPEAKER_11 22:09

Nah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

That maintain is a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_11 22:12

I think um so mine is different though. So um I'm obviously pushed to be like, I want to be known as the one of the best, if not the best. That's just what it is, right? So I had an album called Benchwarmer, was kind of always my albums always tell you where I am mentally. So Benchwarmer, I felt like, oh damn, I'm on a bench. I feel like I could start, but I I ain't getting the opportunity yet. Right. And then um that was the perspective of the whole album, right? So then we did Milwaukee. Milwaukee's four years later. I didn't did a million shows in between. I didn't did it, a whole bunch of freestyles. A lot of people get to hear me rap, my confidence is up, and all of these different things is happening. And Milwaukee is like, no, I ain't no, I'm gonna start it now for sure. You know what I mean? So that was the whole transition between the two albums. And um so yeah, that that literally was my mindset on those two albums. Is one, I'm watching the game from the side because I'm forced to. Ain't nobody let me in. And then the second one is I'm in this motherfucker now. Y'all ain't got no choice but to deal with me now, and I'm like that. And you can hear it in the in the music, my bad. You can hear it in the music. You know, one is way more confident, like I've been here before. Like I've been here, I've been doing it for four years now, from that last point of not being able to play. Right. You know what I mean? So that's the whole reason for my album.

SPEAKER_04 23:19

I really like that. Let's go. You know, I never got to explain one of my albums before, bro. The way y'all explain it, bro. No, I'm saying I don't I never made an album with an explanation like that. Yeah. No bullshit, bro. I just I just been trying to keep up with the standards, motherfucking set, bro. But the way y'all explain that shit is so cold, bro. Yeah, yeah. Because it makes me want to make an album just based on a thought and shit.

SPEAKER_11 23:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

That's cold.

SPEAKER_13 23:42

Like when I dropped my first street album, Heart Behind Bars, like it was an emotional album, so that's why I called it Heart Behind Bars. Like, you know, me giving the audience my um emotions, yeah, lyrically. You know what I'm saying? But it didn't have there was no reason that it spawned the album. You feel what I'm saying? Like they just had uh it was just a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

But I feel like that's what makes the music so good. Yeah, and it shows like y'all explaining it is uh it's almost just like an affirmation to the fact that that's why people like me and myself like the music so much.

SPEAKER_13 24:19

Good shit. Almost like it was a meant to be a product. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_11 24:23

I mean, the crazy thing is a lot of these albums we made alongside of each other. So we always I'm hearing what he's doing. Fuck I gotta do that, I gotta keep up with that. All right, let's go. Boom, boom, boom. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 24:34

So uh the iron sharpens iron. That's all about saying but shit, it shows, bro. I'm telling you, everything y'all saying it shows in the uh finished product.

SPEAKER_11 24:42

I appreciate it, you know.

SPEAKER_13 24:43

Solid, bro. Um, another thing I wanted to talk about was uh I saw you guys did uh shout out to Rick Taylor again. I love watching uh his content. Um y'all did the rap draft. How was that experience for y'all?

SPEAKER_11 24:57

Always amazing. Rick, one of my favorite people in this world. Like, Rick, my dog off camera.

SPEAKER_13 25:01

We like actually cool with him.

SPEAKER_11 25:03

You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:05

Yeah, we definitely gotta have dogs. Oh, I I definitely want them on. Yeah. I'm literally about to start making music for just like platforms like that. I'm about to let come kill this shit, bro.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Listen, we can hit a book for you today. That's what I'm saying. We definitely need that. Do it then. Do it then. Do it then. We got you. We got you for the show. No, I mean, it's it's cool, like uh just to see uh a lot more platforms growing in the city um for places to express like they albums and you know things of that nature. Yeah. And uh, you know, you you you guys, Rick, you know, these are platforms that that artists actually do need. And um, you know, it's just it's just beautiful to see. Uh and then well, like we knew Rick Woody was just like supporting Ray. Uh uh Ray shot it. That's like they like real real close. And he was just like, uh, hey, bros, uh help me, help me with these lights. And then he had these ideas of creating a platform. Yeah. So, you know, it's like it's just beautiful to see. So, you know.

SPEAKER_13 26:04

Yeah, and it's really important. Like, I don't think the people understand how important it is for these platforms. And that's why I always like bring him up in our podcast because like I'm proud of the fact that he's somebody that's doing you know, same the type of uh platform that we're doing, because then it gives the artists an opportunity to kind of like make their rounds, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like to not only have one place to go, but to have multiple places to go to give your audience different um things to stay engaged with, you know. And now in the industry, there's not enough of that because like you know, the labels are you know cutting staff, and you know, they're not there's not as many shows that they're kind of hosting with the artists in mind, and how are they gonna get these artists press and you know stuff like that? So it's like it's upon us to kind of do it ourselves. Yeah, do it ourselves. And a lot of people don't have the know-how or the means to do it. So it's like when you get those people who do have a great idea and they're executing it well, I just think it's important to kind of like highlight them, you know, and he does a great job.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

That and it's like like we were saying earlier, everybody's a rapper now, bro.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Yeah, and like endless content.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

It just you know, and it's just it's just fucking it's better to be not to be, but to have more people that don't want to be a fucking rapper. Like, I want to put you on something as you being the rapper, you know what I'm saying? Like that's what I've always wished for, and that's why I take a lot of pride in Illy inviting me to be a part of this, because I get to be a part of that system now where I'm like, well shit, I could have people come through and put the shine on you. I don't have to, you know. The fact that we're artists kind of just helps us relate to the artists we bring on, and we you know, and then we got our own side shit, but and but we're not trying to be the rapper here right now. Y'all are the rappers here, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Right now, and that's I felt that same way when I started the Good Vibes thing. It's like I know how an artist wants to be treated for their shows, you know what I'm saying? So it's like because I am an artist, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 28:13

You know, so us being artists just helps that fact. But the the whole process of what we're doing is like, bro, not everybody has to be the front man when somebody else is trying to do their art. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So like Rick Taylor is like, you know, that's what he's doing. And we need more of y'all, we need more managers, we need more people doing media, we need more people booking shows, like booking agents. You know, you don't have to be the rapper, you don't have to be the guy, fam. You could just be the person doing the interview or somebody behind the camera, more people doing shit, you know what I'm saying? Just outside of just being the rapper, fam.

SPEAKER_11 28:46

Like, and you you know another thing why Rick is so special and y'all so special is y'all reach across the aisle. Y'all go on both sides and talk to people. You know what I mean? Um in our first couple years, uh, we just relegated to one side of things. Yeah, you know what I mean? And we couldn't go over there. And they and they didn't come over here. And now I'm starting to see a lot more um overlap. Overlap between the two sides, and that's what you're supposed to do. We can't be better if we separate. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Then it's like the city. This we all we got. We supposed to be actually we supposed to be going against other places, other artists to make it. Like we like that's another thing. People be in can competition with people in the city. My competition is Drake. I'm wanna I wanna be as good as him to make it. I don't wanna be, I wanna be with us and we all be as good as Drake to make it. You know what I'm saying? You hear that, Canada?

SPEAKER_11 29:33

No, just but like that's how Detroit is though. Like, it don't matter what go on, Detroit stands behind Detroit.

SPEAKER_13 29:41

Detroit versus everybody.

SPEAKER_11 29:42

Detroit versus it. We gotta be the same way.

SPEAKER_13 29:44

That's kind of how the the thought for the name of the podcast came about. Okay, I liked the Detroit versus everybody theme so much that I was like, Milwaukee needs a theme like that. I was like, off, one four one four all. Oh, that's tough. All four that's how the name came about.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 30:02

Oh, that's tough.

SPEAKER_04 30:04

Detroit Smash. When he hit me with that shit, he was like, hey, I want to do a podcast and shit. I'm like, damn, you know, I'm thinking I'm trying to do like the politics shit because I had a podcast about politics and shit. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to do that because that's really what I love, love, love to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Oh, for real. Yeah, and then he was like, You you you got one on your hands.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

Me and me and Fargo at the Cactus Club, we was chopping it up outside on some on the music politics. I already know. But uh when Illy hit me, yeah, he was like, I got a logo and everything. I was like, all right, cool. He's like, Yeah, I want to call it all 414 all. Right away, I was like, that's so fucking called fire, bro. You know, and I love playing on words, I'm gonna play on words, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, why the fuck can I think of that? Look at that.

SPEAKER_11 30:40

No, facts.

SPEAKER_04 30:41

You snap, fam. Like, that's the dad pun in me.

SPEAKER_13 30:44

Yeah, all four one four. But uh, yeah, so you know, I just wanted to kind of highlight that, man. Shout out Rick Taylor and listening on the rap draft.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

We're going to hit him up today.

SPEAKER_13 30:56

Yeah, no, we need that. Put y'all on the contact. We're gonna have to boot somebody from uh next month. But uh, all right, so we had you guys pick a um a song uh to showcase on the pod today. So Heck's gonna go into that real quick.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

Yeah, let's go to uh Stack's video. He got uh Justice League, official music video. This is from a year ago.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

This is my last music video I shot. Yeah. Let's go that paper, and I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna eat it. I got all this chicken, all this money, all long me. Gotta hit this D93 close to eat.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

Bro, it's like another dog. I I'll tell you right now, fam, it's a it's a talent. It's a talent to be able to keep that fucking uh that uh fuck. I'm I'm like drawing a blank because that shit was so hard. The cadence. Yeah, yeah. Bro, because I can't, I'm telling you right now, bro. I don't think I could do it. I've tried a thousand times. Same, I'll be wanting to switch it up. I just can't fucking keep that. And then somehow you fucking elevated it in the middle and came like, how the fuck?

SPEAKER_11 33:54

That shit cold, bro. Yeah. Shout out Gonzalez, man. Gonzalez visual, man. He didn't know. That shit was fucking cold, bro.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

That's actually Gonzalez. It's actually his son right there, too.

SPEAKER_11 34:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 34:05

G really my brother, though. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I fuck with dogs. So, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 34:10

And you executed something that I've always wanted to incorporate in the video, which was like the performance. The crowd, the crowd fucking singing along there. I've always wanted to do that in the video. I have I've yet to accomplish that.

SPEAKER_04 34:23

I fucking love that shit, bro.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Listen, listen, we could we we can plan this at the next good vibes. Yeah, you gotta pull up on me.

SPEAKER_13 34:30

Oh, that's one thing that I was gonna say too, you know, like um the whole good vibes that you do, you know, like that's kind of um, you know, along the same lines as like what we're doing here, where we take a step back from being the highlighted, you know, rapper, you know, and put a you're you're focusing on everybody else, you know what I'm saying? Like, and we need more of that too, you know, because um artists they can play multiple roles, you know. It doesn't just have to be like you damn near have to, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, and most people think multiple roles just has to be, oh, I produce and rap. No, multiple roles can be like I rap and I throw shows, or I rap and I know how to work the soundboard. You know, I rap and I know how to do such and such that I do graphic design. Yeah, it's not the most important thing, but it's very important to what you might need. That I don't have to be the star player of what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? So, like, shout out to you for that.

SPEAKER_04 35:31

And it shows a lot of um well, first and foremost, it shows a lot of character because you you're putting yourself to the side for another person's uh shine in the field that you're trying to get shined in. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so it's like you know, fuck y'all, we we the go humiless. You know what I'm saying? I could put myself aside, but yeah, you know what I mean? So that shows a lot, fam. A lot of humility.

SPEAKER_11 35:54

And he does something really special. He does something really special where he goes get any and everybody and he listens to their music and he be like, oh, this work, this work. It don't matter if you popping, not popping, right? Yeah, you reached out to him or he reached out to you, you're gonna make a good vibes. Bro, done had like over the years, he probably had like three, four hundred people on good vibes. Yeah, we're gonna be able to do that. And he he tried not to repeat artists, you know, he trying to get everybody their shine. Now, if you go up there and you body it crazy, you're probably coming back for sure. No, all right.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

Like every show there will be at least two to three new people. Okay. Like, you know, it's still uh something that has to sell. Like people have to come. So I try to keep an artist that I know uh bring like bring people. Because honestly, even if you like a newcomer and like you don't have a big fan base, that's not it's okay. Because your job is to come and steal everybody else's fan base. Yeah. Because I'm gonna make sure there's somebody here who's going to bring people and it's gonna it might start off your your career what you what you're looking for, you know what I'm saying? And that's that's the goal, like to always have somebody here for that can become your your fan.

SPEAKER_11 36:57

And the big thing is he pay artists, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I was during a lot of those big early good vibe days. Net losses making no money. Net losses, net losses, net losses. He kept doing it, net loss, net loss. Yeah, and you know, um that opportunity, it's a lot of times you gotta pay to even perform in certain places.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Yeah. And and people ask.

SPEAKER_13 37:18

And I be like, nah.

SPEAKER_11 37:19

Facts.

SPEAKER_13 37:19

I mean, that's because that's how the cities trained them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Cities like, oh, they're trained to yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

I really want to be a part of that. So how much I gotta pay? Yeah, it shouldn't be like that. It shouldn't be like that.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

We're trying to pay you.

SPEAKER_11 37:30

Yeah. You know, free free shows is always nice. That's cool. You can go out there and get the reps in and stuff like that, right? But the fact that he took it a step above that, and he was like, hey, I don't care where you is in your career, you're gonna get paid for whatever is going on in here. I'm like, man, that's tough, man.

SPEAKER_04 37:43

That's super tough because all I wanted back in the day was like, bro, give me throw me 50 bucks. Yeah, and that's literally what we paid. Throw me 50 bucks. That's literally give me a two-drick voucher and 50 bucks. We we get that too. Yeah, I never been, I never got, I swear to god, I never been to that show. Hey, shout out Kelsey, you know. That's how you're artists, bro. Listen, bro, all I want is to be treated. I had a show one time ever. It was in uh it was Bastard Boygan. I forgot the fucking name of Manitowac. Yeah, and you know, I didn't even know there was a bunch of niggas up there like that, fam. No bullshit. We went up there, I'm like, shit, cool. They invited, yeah, they invited me. Dog, I went up, bro. They put me in this little back room, right? It wasn't like super flashy and cold, but it was it was a back room. Bro, they had a fruit tray.

SPEAKER_13 38:29

That's tough.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

I'm like, dog, thank you, bro. I was happy. You probably would have thought they fucking gave me a thousand dollars. I'm like, this is the shit, bro. They didn't give me no drinks or nothing, just a fucking fruit tray and some bottled water and shit. And I was like, bro, that's cold because you cared. Yeah, you cared enough to you know treat me like an artist. If I'm about to exactly, if I if I'm about to do this journey and doing this, this is the littlest perk ever, just a fruit tray. And it was nobody else's, it was just for me and my people that came in with me, and that was the best shit ever. And I be I tell that story all the time, bro, because that's what the fuck you should get, fam. Yeah, yeah, you know, at the very least, fam. At the very least, give me a section. Can I get a section to sit where nobody else can sit? Yeah, yeah, a chair, nigga, making it feel different, yeah, yeah. Appreciate it, yeah. You know what I mean? So yeah, shout out to you for that. Yeah, shout out for that, fam. Uh we got the next one is Mo City. Uh uh. Cuddy forever. Let's get it. Forever, ever. Forever, ever.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

Gonzalez again.

SPEAKER_11 39:29

My God, man.

SPEAKER_04 39:33

Yeah, I like it. I like your style too.

SPEAKER_11 39:35

Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_08 41:32

You can pull it up for some money.

SPEAKER_13 41:40

Not want to start a record label or just fucking dump all my money in the city.

SPEAKER_11 41:45

Fucking crazy. I mean, for real. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_13 41:49

Sometimes I'll be like, you know, I spend a lot of money on my shit. You know, I'm yeah, you know, you guys, these niggas, I don't even ask how much it will work fucking spending. I just be like, let's do it. Yeah, we see the money. We see the money. I be ready to fucking sometimes I be hearing artists like y'all, and I'm like, I'm gonna start a label and fucking throw all my money in.

SPEAKER_11 42:12

I appreciate it, man.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

You know, like I'm gonna give y'all the compliment that to me is the highest compliment. Cause you know, obviously, I think I'm the shit too. You know what I'm saying? I think I'm a fucking beast at rapping and shit, bro. Facts. Y'all make music that I'll be like, what the what the fuck am I doing, man? Like, what the what the fuck? Like both of them, the first record and the second, bro. Like, both of them are on two different spectrums, bro. And I'm like, I've wanted to make a song like this and like that. I'm like, and I'm like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_11 42:42

I appreciate it, man.

SPEAKER_04 42:43

What am I doing with my musical life looking at?

SPEAKER_11 42:45

No, no, you you probably you I told you I was a fan of you though. I saw you uh um right across the street. And um, I was like, man, who's this motherfucker up here rapping?

SPEAKER_02 42:55

I was like, Well, uh B Battle?

SPEAKER_11 42:57

Yeah, up in the B Battle. I was like, this motherfucker is up here rapping. I was like, and you know, me, you know, as a lyricist, you be like, you don't hear them too often. You don't hear them, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 43:07

Yeah, yeah. You see them and be like, damn, who the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_11 43:10

You know what I mean? Because we all of us is delusional in our head, right? We like, are we the best? We the best, we the best, right? Then you hear another motherfucker chasing the same thing you chasing, and they look like they a little close on it. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 43:20

Like that's what I'm saying about both of these records y'all just showed us, bro. Like, bro, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_11 43:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

Side note, shout out Alan for doing the beat. Breaking the handle.

SPEAKER_11 43:29

Shout out to this, bro. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_13 43:31

How I like to think about that is uh, you know, when I'm at shows, I like to envision myself as a super saiyan, and then when I see another fucking super saiyan, I'm like, oh, I want to go fight that nigga. No, for real. Lyrically, I want to fight that nigga.

SPEAKER_04 43:44

Yeah, he the he the next uh shit.

SPEAKER_13 43:47

Like it's we're about to be Vegeta and Goku right now. We're gonna be friends. Yeah. Somewhere along the line. We're gonna fight though.

SPEAKER_11 43:54

No, facts.

SPEAKER_13 43:55

Are they friends? I need to fight him so I can get stronger. He said, Are they friends? Definitely. Are they friends? They're friends. Goku and Vegeta.

SPEAKER_04 44:01

Oh yeah, low-key, like they love each other, but they want to fucking kill each other.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

I don't know. I guess they the last of the others.

SPEAKER_13 44:10

Vegeta definitely got a lot of things. You said for Goku, like 100%. I'm like a super big fan. Like when I was what, like probably 11 or 12, I actually had the whole VHS collection of Dragon Dragon Talk. Nigga, like the whole collection. Like they had faces on the side of them. If you were missing any of them, the face would be wrong. That's how cold it was, you know. But you know, and I to this day I still fucking watch them through.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

Like, you know, I love anime. I watch everything though. So I swear to God.

SPEAKER_04 44:41

I don't I knew I know about Dragon Ball Z because everybody around me at the time and shit. I just retained that kind of information. So I knew about like Vegeta and Goku's relationship and shit, but I don't watch that shit, bro. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_11 44:52

No, yeah. I mean, you can it's a sign of their friendship in the tournament of power, right? Where Vegeta's eliminated, and um Goku the last hope for this for all of all of us. Yeah. And he like, hey man, lock the fucking game.

SPEAKER_13 45:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 45:04

You know what I mean? You all we got left.

SPEAKER_13 45:05

Step it up.

SPEAKER_11 45:06

You know what I mean? He's like, man, that's when I knew I'm like, Vegeta, he he kind of do what y'all do. Sometimes you gotta step to the side and let somebody else shine because it's their moment, it's their time. Right. And um, that's real friendship, regardless, like real life.

SPEAKER_13 45:19

And you know, like Vegeta understands that it's Goku who pushes him to get to those next levels. That's true. You know, without Goku, he wouldn't be able to because before he met Goku, he was top dog aside from Frieza. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 45:33

He was taking orders though.

SPEAKER_04 45:34

Right, yeah. So it's more of a like a what good is it to be great if there's no challenge and great. Right. Come on now.

SPEAKER_13 45:42

Kind of like Joker and Batman and shit. Like they hate each other, but like deep down, what would I do without you here? Yeah, what would I do?

SPEAKER_04 45:49

And honestly, though, I I would rather respect from people when I feel than being around a bunch of people all the time that don't got no respect for me. 100%.

SPEAKER_13 45:56

Yeah, 100%. Alright, so um, before we head into this next portion of the episode, if you haven't already, take a moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell to help us grow our audience. A like, comment, or share with a friend are also great ways to let us know you supported and watch the episode. Also, shout out to our sponsor, Illy Tents, for financing these episodes. If you or someone you know is looking to add privacy to your vehicle or transform it, keep us in mind uh by calling the shop today, 414-326-7283, or stop by the shop in Franklin 8581 South 27th Street to book your next appointment. Um, also, I want to turn it over to you guys, see if you guys had anybody you want to shout out or anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

Uh put me on the spot there. Um your friends are shout out uh give us a name. Don't forget nobody. Shout out MKE expanded for the uh the FOMO FODA uh thing we did yesterday. Um I can't wait to see uh what what it looks like when it comes out. Um We Believe in you.

SPEAKER_11 47:04

Um Shout out Camp Shout of Warfare, shout out all in I I just wanna shout out shout out to Watcher, man. Make sure y'all subscribe. You know what I mean? Like the video, run us up, man. Let's get up, you know.

SPEAKER_04 47:19

Definitely subscribe. Appreciate that, fam. And then real quick for me, since we're speaking about 414 days, this is gonna drop after it already happened or whatever, but this is a couple days. Shout out to Quattro uno 4. I just followed him like an hour before I got here. I went to go check out the uh event at Third Street Market. There's a bunch of uh, you know, like Mexican vendors in there. And they ran there killing it, bro. So shout out to Quatro uno Quatro, that's the shirt I got on right now. Shout out to show them stuff.

SPEAKER_11 47:47

Shout out to him. I gotta get some. Oh god.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

So that's them. Shout out to them. Shout out to uh Altacuta. That's uh lady I met there. She got the the candle work, you know, the 414 candles, and she got a bunch of other stuff like Spanish words and like respect and adore. It smelled pretty damn good. That's really pretty valid. It's not bad at all. I was like, yeah, I need I fuck with candles.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

You know, so you know, since I've been in a relationship, I've been like candles.

SPEAKER_04 48:17

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Like, you know? I'd be like, no, that that that one ain't it, babe.

SPEAKER_04 48:20

You know what I'm saying? Motherfuckers be like, what do you like candles? Like, oh, you must not be with nobody. No bullshit. But uh, that's I thought Glutuda, shout out to them, and then uh shout out to Glutuda Printing. I think I'm pretty sure that's their name. I don't want to get it wrong. But um they made this shirt right here that Illy got on. Okay. So shout out to them. They they do all printing, they do all printing services, they do raps, car raps, posters, whatever you need, they print it up and they hold it down. And then uh last but not least, shout out to uh you said Charlie Made It is his name. Yep. So Charlie made it. Uh he actually is the creator of the Milwaukee homies. Y'all probably never seen that, but if you have, he just draws. Like I paid for him to draw me up like a homie version of me. Yeah. You know, the little Mexican homie thing. And he got a whole bunch of artists. Illy got one, GP got one. He got he got the whole thing. Or it's like I think he draws them up, yeah. I think he draws them and then makes them digital, you know. So he can make it like a music video. I don't I don't know. Yeah, he made them up. He might be able to.

SPEAKER_02 49:19

That's that's what I've been wanting like an animated music video.

SPEAKER_13 49:22

Like where it's up drawing, like, yeah, like if you want something like that, SG also does animated you know stuff. He he's incorporated some animated stuff into my music video.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

So he code it. We gotta talk, bro.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

We gotta talk.

SPEAKER_04 49:36

So just shout out to all the businesses in the city, bro, that's holding it down. I like this one because it's just Spanish 414. You know what I'm saying? And then uh the candles, Charlie made it. Just shout out to everybody in the city, and then I seen all of them today at the thing. And uh he was out there selling uh Echo and the Milwaukee shirts. So made in Milwaukee shirts, you know what I'm saying? So just shout out to everybody that's doing their thing, bro. Uh all 414R, that's what we do. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_13 50:00

I would have got up like you, but I was squatting before I got here. My legs are cramped right now, bro. Um so let's go into this next section. Uh the MKE music review.

SPEAKER_04 50:12

Cool, let's go. This this first one is uh Illy just set up a New Styles clip for us, bro. Alright. Some DJ shit, man. Let's go. And New Styles is the beast.

SPEAKER_13 50:22

We pick we each pick an artist to showcase. Um this week I decided to not go with a um songwriter. I just decided to go with an artist. DJ killing it.

SPEAKER_04 50:32

And New Styles is always beastie when he does these videos, so let's go, New Styles.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

What y'all thought y'all wasn't gonna see me? I'm the most tires of this shit.

SPEAKER_09 50:50

Let's do it like this. I'ma rub the back to the moon. Let's take the back to stop. Who got a lot performing live on your body lock performing live on your life performing live on your hottest slide? Who got it locked performing live on your hideous lies? Who got it? Who got it locked performing live on your hottest life?

SPEAKER_04 51:48

First and foremost, shout out to Inspector Deck. He might be one of my favorite Wu Tang members ever.

SPEAKER_05 51:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:54

I fucking love his style and the way he be saying shit. But new styles be going crazy, bro. And then uh I was actually watching the R DJ Elliott's R, if y'all ever check it out. Yeah, he did uh DJ set here. Was it last week? No, the week before last. So then uh I was watching it with my guy from work and shit. He was like, it's crazy because it don't look like he's doing shit. Yeah, it looked like he just I'm like, bro, I used to think that too. I used to be like, I can do that because I got rhythm and shit. I can, you know, I can chuck it. That shit is not sweet, fam. That shit is hard as fuck. If you look at it, when you be looking at him, they look like he just turning shit, turning it down like this, and then you just turn that one down, and that's all they're doing. But when he did that and he was like bringing that bar back, that's not easy shit, bro. So the timing gotta be right.

SPEAKER_11 52:38

Man, I knew he didn't come play though. You can see what shirt he got on. Yeah, no, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_13 52:43

I've known New Style since I was a kid. Like this was like back to he used to be one of the um counselors at the Christian Center. Um, and you know, this is like a place where you go during the summertime or whatever, and you just fucking hanging out, they take you on little spectacle trips to the fucking swimming pool or whatever, you know. So um he was one of the counselors, and he always been super hip hop DJ since even back then, you know, like and I feel like he definitely planted a seed of like, you know, music in me back then, you know, like there were many people, but he was one of the many that like showed me that like hip-hop was more than just rap, you know. Like he really like showcased the elements of hip-hop to me. And then um one of the things that like be tripping me out is he'll be like scratching and shit, and then like he'll like spin around and be like scratching behind his back, and it's still beyond time and shit. Like, yeah, he's cold with it, bro.

SPEAKER_11 53:42

That's insane, man.

SPEAKER_13 53:43

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

He cold.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

I can't even fucking pull up my arms.

SPEAKER_02 53:47

Man, I'm trying to tell you. I can't even scratch my back.

SPEAKER_04 53:51

My actual back. My whole middle quadrant of my back is cannot be scratched.

SPEAKER_11 53:56

It's never been scratched.

SPEAKER_04 53:57

Scratch me, scratch it right there, man.

SPEAKER_13 53:58

Stop. Like, he legit be spinning, bro. He be like, that's fire. It's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_04 54:06

Shout out to the DJs, man. And like you said, it's still it's still an art form in the in the culture, fam.

SPEAKER_13 54:10

Yeah, and how he sets up the video, like you can see the vocals going, you know, and like you can see the part that he's grabbing and how he's like rewinding it and keeping it.

SPEAKER_04 54:19

I didn't even think about that. I thought that was just like some decoration shit.

SPEAKER_13 54:22

No, no, that's like the middle part is the fucking.

SPEAKER_04 54:26

I thought he just, you know, had like so a wave looking thing, but that's the actual record playing.

SPEAKER_13 54:30

Yeah, he's showing you the software program as that's playing and shit, you know.

SPEAKER_04 54:34

Shout out the new styles, man. We need you on the power, fan. Come on. Big facts. Stop playing, bro. We need the behind the back fucking scratching on the fucking that shit'll be called. Hell yeah. All right, man. So we're gonna move on to the next one. This is uh Paper Stack's pick.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

Shout out CIZO.

SPEAKER_04 54:50

You know, CISO. I love you, bro. My brother, man. Featuring Mo City. It's called On Go. Uh oh. Let's get it. Y'all beat selection just beat.

SPEAKER_11 55:03

Nah, yeah, that boy. C's is different, though. He really liked that.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

I'm gonna put this on the money, this I'm gonna make it on the egg with a nigga. Um niggas, I think.

SPEAKER_10 56:14

I think I'm a full nigga, nigga's number, I can't see how the channel I'm in the wheel. Big in the line with a minimum. Rip the mama I take. I'm gonna even come up with my eye being running up a chick up nigga in that nigga. Niggas too broke with a money big up, big up moving like a cellar cat. Chillin' with a brother man and plotting on the colour again. Niggas see me do the running minute. Why so you talk when you knock on the humble man, running other numbers, man? Mm-hmm. See his back on the run again. All my niggas on go.

SPEAKER_04 56:58

Nigga fucking niggas on go. You a chameleon, bro.

SPEAKER_11 57:02

Man, uh, thank you, man.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

I didn't even know it was you at first. I'm like, where the fuck mocha? Where the fuck dog cut in, bro? That shit's crazy, bro. You're uh you a fucking whole chameleon, bro. I'll be trying, man. You know, to go from the shit you be rapping and then you get to some shit like this is the You ain't even seen that.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

He got a he got a pop song he hopped on. That was he's uh the range is crazy, bro. The kill song?

SPEAKER_11 57:27

Yeah, the range is nuts. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_04 57:30

I fucks with that.

SPEAKER_11 57:31

Yeah, man. I appreciate it, man.

SPEAKER_04 57:33

Oh, and then that the artwork, the artwork was cold. Like he's part of your camp.

SPEAKER_11 57:37

Yeah, both of it, both of these people are he made that that artwork too himself.

SPEAKER_04 57:42

That's fucking amazing, fam. It's like it just looks super cold. Shout out CIZO. Shout out to CIZO. I love you, bro. I like that, fam. I like finding out about different people, bro, because now I'm gonna go check them.

SPEAKER_11 57:52

Yeah, man. I'm telling you, all them boys are good, man. They the reason we are, you know, the way we is. Yeah. You know, when you got a whole group of people that can rap and go crazy like that, yeah, man, it's it's it's hard to keep up.

SPEAKER_04 58:06

Possibilities are endless with that type of shit. I should have fucking cultivated our shit like that. I cultivated our shit off, like, man, you really gonna fight with us when we fight shit. And look at now, bro, none of them niggas rap no more. But they all probably still fight. I got love for it, man. My love. All right, street team, let's get it. Oh my god. No, but you know, I should have picked better. I should've picked artists and shit, bro. Like, damn. No, but uh, let's go.

SPEAKER_11 58:30

We did that same thing. No, yeah, it'd be like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:35

But uh, yeah, y'all, y'all just really be rapping, man.

SPEAKER_11 58:40

We we all come, um we all grew up together. We often come come from a group called ABC. And ABC, we like, we defended each other like that, type shit. You know what I mean? But I took everybody that was rapping, I'm like, hey, y'all coming with me. What's going on over here? You know what I mean? We ain't we ain't I don't need y'all to fight, I need you to rap. Type shit. You know what I mean? Real life, that's that's it, bro. So literally what you're saying, like legit. But them still my dogs though.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

Yeah, of course, yeah. You know, so Alright, so uh let's let's get on uh this yo pick right here.

SPEAKER_11 59:05

This is P's SW SW.

SPEAKER_04 59:07

So that's how he say his name? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 59:08

Shout out P's W.

SPEAKER_04 59:10

I love you, bro. P's SW. And then we had a song on here we went crazy to last time.

SPEAKER_11 59:14

Man.

SPEAKER_04 59:14

What's it called again?

SPEAKER_11 59:15

Uh We That.

SPEAKER_04 59:17

We That. Yeah. I want I want I want to say like, I'm on that, but it's we That. Mm-hmm. Alright, let's go.

unknown 59:24

I thought I did good enough to take it.

SPEAKER_07 59:36

I'm here bumbling like I'm jailing, tell them checking stats. Day by day I'm bumblin' them like getting back to bed. Go for the dumbbell like I'm still for the gym like it's because I'm gonna make it because I'm gonna go to give them the gym working minute on the gym better because we don't have the minute bumping up and when it gives the number button button with it. Like a mustin't full ringiness them again. I'm getting off of the off the chip. I'm just missing out the mud, my goodness bitches want to fill. You can pick it, really putin' on position. I'm switching three minute and I'm giving on the finish and I'm business, really finish. Take my game and really I'm here ballin' like I'm jailin', tell 'em check the station. This is some day by day. I'm ballin' out like games back to back. March across the back, stepping on his hard wood, and on the court, I'm supreme like I'm third good. Ballin' out, send a double team, I'm just too much for ballin' out.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:06

This probably got my new favorite ad lib in it. Which one? That nigga said when I shoot, it goes like bottom with a neck. Oh my god. It was peace. Fucking perfect. Immaculate.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:19

He's gonna try to get this on 2K.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:20

Yeah, that's what we can definitely hear that.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:24

Speaking of speaking of fighting, that would make me like the other one. We that, nigga. That's your man. Do not have us all in there mob deep, fam. We that. And then we that. We get on that, fam. Like I was like, bro, that's cold, bro. That's that kind of that music that gets you amped up.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:41

Yeah, man. That gym music.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:43

Facts. That's his style, too.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:45

Real talk.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

He makes like you want to work out too. Every time, every time I hear him, bro, he got that amped up shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

That's how you know I don't listen to him, because I don't work out. That's how you know. Yeah, but I play this, bro. I'm just playing, B.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:59

If you ever need a feature, bro, holler at me. I got you. Let's go. On the strength.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:04

We're gonna make that happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:05

Yeah, for real, though.

unknown 1:02:06

For real.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

Because he's working right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:08

He said on the strength, bro. He's strong in every way.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:11

Right. On that shit, but also, nigga, for the love of music, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:18

Shout out to P's SW, man. All right. Uh my pick, I fucking I just played them last week. I'm gonna play him again because this is the shit I really be just rocking around listening to, fam. So shout out to Playboy Bully, fam. Two weeks in a row, fam. And uh next week I I'm gonna research and pick a uh artist that I found.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:39

Yeah next week.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:40

He does he do got another song that I really fucking.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:42

Hey, gonna be like, hey, gonna be like, I listened to everybody and I still went back to this.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:46

To Playboy Bully. Hey, bro, because I'm telling you, he just got the shit, Playboy. I'll say it again, bro. I said it last week. He got that shit, that pimp talk, fam. He just he just does it so fucking well, fam. Like, and you know, I'll be riding listening to that shit. So let's go. This is called Diamond Bezzle.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:02

Shout out Ray, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:05

Yeah, we've been having a lot of his videos lately, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

Yo, all right.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:10

Shout out to Icon too, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:12

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

Sunday, Friday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 25. Keep my circle smaller than the dime backday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:37

Keep my circle smaller than the dynamics.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

I wanna take the time to speak about some real shit. These niggas funny acting, something I can't deal with. They ask me, play what why you step away from music? Because these niggas bitches, fear holes in fraudulent. But why you asking all these questions when you know the truth? The same shit they try with me, they try that shit with you. Niggas actin' like they fuck with me. Knowing they don't fuck with me. To be honest, y'all can't fuck with me. Don't speak that fuck shit. When you work for dude, use a prostitute, bounce matches work for two. You niggas sit down when you bitch and beat this man up. Sit down and cry about it. These niggas baby with the bit out. You like your credentials.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:33

Hey, just put me on God.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:47

I got good, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

I ain't fucking with these play mass. Fighting over the same ass. Ain't no trickin' in my circle, and you can't hang with me. Stop playing. But don't you talk that player shit. If you gotta whisper when you say that shit, man, stop fucking playing.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:16

I ain't gonna lie, he's a don't you speak that player shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:19

If you gotta whisper when you say that shit, I song out. Yeah, that's how I guess a feature type shit. I can definitely hear you.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:26

Oh, yeah. That's tough.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:28

That's tough.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

I'm telling you, bro, all his music he be talking about, like.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:32

Put that in there. I need that one. I need that one. Yeah. We gotta put him on something. Drop that remote. I need that one. That was fire. Everything about that was fire. I love that player shit too. Larry Bob.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:44

I'm gonna put you right here. Literally. That's tough. All those right there. Say less. Ghost is my favorite shit too. But yeah, shout out to Playboy Bully, man, putting you on, fam. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:54

Alright, let's hop into these topics real quick.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:57

Yeah, we got the two topics. The first one we were gonna do is it was this one, the Facebook one. Oh wait, I'm trying to think of what you think of the flow smoother, the other one first, right? The the show one first? Yeah, yeah, that one probably can flow smoother. Alright, let's go. So this is just a video just to kind of say uh is this what shows is really like uh when you do the hometown shows? Let's go. Bro, Instagram always get me, dog. Every time, bro.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:34

What they begin at them okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:36

The volume don't kick in.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:37

There you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:37

Yeah, the volume don't kick in, you gotta go for the yo.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:40

I know when do I perform? The promoter there kicking it and shit like I think you're going on after them over there. You don't know? Hey, when you performing as mine. I'm about to roll up because beyond you here, bitch. What time does the show start? Do you at least know that? The show starts at 6. How many people on the lineup? 25, I'm supposed to be 50. But you know how many artists are on the show in the place. You know how many artists are. Let me guess. You want me to stay for the whole show? Yes, you do have to stay for the whole show. I don't know why artists are like that. You all can just perform and leave. You gotta support the artists.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:42

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:44

Did you pay to get in here? Yeah, alright, bro. Yeah, I got you. I got you, I got you. Three days later. I'm sick and tired of putting on shows. Oh, I didn't see this part.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:59

Like, you guys have to stay for the entire fucking show.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:02

Hey, this is reality.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:04

Artists just act as if like putting on events is super fucking easy. Like it's hard. And if you're not gonna fucking respect my time, I'm not gonna respect your time.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:15

Alright, alright, alright. Bro, I got fucking so much to say about this shit, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:20

Thanks.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:21

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:22

Alright, well, we'll start with you. Work it this way.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:26

Well, uh, I'm I'm I'm gonna start first because he the real person y'all should be talking to about this. But like I do get irritated with artists who come, do they shit and leave. I get irritated because I'm busy as everybody else. You know what I mean? Uh I just think it's disrespectful. Uh because you couldn't get this building the way it is by yourself. Right. You know what I mean? So uh be respectful. That's that's the only thing I really took like offense to. I don't I don't like when now I get if you got something going on, you gotta go to work, cool. But you if you finna go home and smoke, you might as well stay here, fool. Right, right. You know, so it's like, yeah, I I just it'd be like that whole too cool for school shit. I'd be like, fool, five people came to see you, fool. Yeah, chill out. Yeah, chill out. You know what I mean? It'll get real and you never get booked again. Yeah. You know, so that's that's how I feel about certain stuff like that. He like, you know, he he he got the, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:16

Yeah, yeah, I was I guess I'm on the other side of the argument, guys. So um, so okay, for that point, I don't really mind that. I don't mind once you perform, if you want to leave. Uh because I know we tend to throw shows on days where there's other events occurring, you know, for like clubs, bars. So for me to have you here for this certain amount of time, but then your people, they want to go to the club, they want to go to the bars. So understandable. That's why I don't really trip on that. But the people gotta understand there is an ego to artists. So me telling an artist, hey, you gotta go second, you gotta go second on this list. And it's not about like, you know, talent-wise, it's really all about the way I lined it up and or about popularity. So when I tell an artist you gotta go first or second, sometimes there's pushback, you know. So leaving that off the table until the day of the show, hey, just so you know, I got you going first, is it it it uh it makes it a smoother transition. Now I know they can be lost about it, but I I've I've did it the other way before, and it was oh they didn't come on time, they were late purposely, you know what I'm saying? So they wouldn't have to go first. And then there was another guy who came and he was like, Oh, all my people are not here yet. I'm like, where are they at? Oh, I don't know, bro. They they claim they on their way. So what that got to do with you performing? I'm paying you to go perform. Go perform. Well, I don't want to perform without them here yet. You know what I'm saying? So now it's delaying the show, and it's it's really like uh it's like putting together an album.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:57

You you structured it that way for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:58

It's it's it's really like this for a reason. And it's like at the end of the day, people people get so like upset about not going last. Going last is the worst position that I hate going last facts. It's the worst position because this the same fact that you people leave after they done, after they people perform, yeah, the crowd is so much smaller than it was if you go last. The best time to go really is in the middle, but going first is not that bad.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:24

People just well well last can be. Like if that last person brought all the people, yeah, they're gonna be here.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:31

If it's the biggest act, like you said, with as far as popularity goes, you know what I'm saying, and they brought the most people, yeah, then yeah, going last could be dope. You know what I'm saying? But majority of the times when you're getting uh, you know, a slot in a show setting or something like that, you know damn well you didn't bring enough people to come last. Come on now. So it's like so go on, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:53

Let me know. I'm ready. No, because I'm not I'm not really I'm not even necessarily disagreeing or agreeing with anything. I'm really just I'm gonna come from pure perspective, like personal perspective. Yes, sir. Bro, I used to get fucking put last all the fucking time because I had the crowd. Gotcha. I'm telling I used to pull up 20 minimum, fam. Like, let's go. We 10 females, niggas with me. We in here chilling. We at the bar, we buying drinks, we doing everything. And they used to try to, oh well, just hold on. Just and then what pissed me off is we'll be doing that, and then while people are performing, they be like, hey, man, you should get your people to go watch. Man, I'm not convincing nobody to watch nobody they don't like or that they might not like. You know what I'm saying? Now, with that being said, all of not all, a lot of the problem would be fixed if you stop having 50 fucking people performing, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:48

100%.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

Four people max. Do not invite me to fucking perform if you got more than four people, bro. I'm done. I stopped doing that five years ago. I'm never gonna do it again. I'm not gonna be a part of a show, I'm not gonna be a part of nothing, I'm not gonna promote shit. Yeah, I'm not doing shit. Four artists max. I'm not fucking making people sit here and watch 15, 20 people fucking rap, bro. Nobody wants to see that thing. No, we're not at a festival, motherfucker. You don't have vendors outside, you don't got fucking coolers of fucking water for people to fucking enjoy their day, Porter John's and people, you know, you you just don't have the fucking logistics to make it happen for me to be comfortable to watch 15 people rap in one night. Yeah, you know, I want to chill, bro. How the fuck am I supposed to come in here and be a rapper and be cool and talk to bitches and yeah, be cool and there's music playing and bitches is dancing. Bitches don't even dance at these shows, bro, because they can't, because all they got is music they don't know. Facts. You're playing a bunch of music nobody fucking knows about, fam. So by the time you get to the end, of course everybody gone. Nobody give a fuck.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:44

Hey, bro, real life, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:46

If you make me wait for if if Illy's performing and I go and I show up and they got 12 niggas before Illy, by the time Illy's done, I'm gone, fam. Yeah, I don't want to be there no more, fam. I'm done. I didn't want to be here by the time he started, fam, because I I'm already six artists past my limit, fam. Yeah, you know, I don't know none of these people, bro.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:04

No, facts.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:04

You know, if you're trying to cook uh curate something for me to watch, make it nice, package it up, yeah. Pick four Keep it tight. Yeah, pick four people who you know are gonna entertain me, yeah, and then fucking let's go. And when you do the four at a local show, oh, I can't believe I said it broke my own rule. At a hometown show, fam, don't give them 45 minute sets, motherfucker. They're not fucking touring artists, fam. We don't know these people's music, fam. I don't want to hear 45 minutes of music I don't know, dog. You know what I'm saying? And everything that you just said, I 100% agree with me too 100%. But but but real quick, so what I was saying is that to your point, yeah, if you didn't have all them people, and you said the key word, the the magic word. I paid you to do this, yeah. Bro, if you paid me to do it, I would stay and watch everybody. Why not? Facts. And I wouldn't give a fuck if my people were here or not, because I'm getting paid to do it. Facts, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Why do I give a fuck if my people are showing up on time? If you're paying, if you're paying me, I'm just gonna get up and do it. Yeah, I got paid. Hey, you showed up too late, bro. That's on you.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:06

Yeah, facts.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:06

I got paid. I got my I got my ducats off the shit, so I don't really care. So just that I was just gonna clear it up, you know, before you jump back in.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:13

Like everything you said, I 100% agree with. Um I do agree with the portion of like uh making people stay to and then your person go 30th. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:27

That's stupid.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

When I first started, the shows were smaller. I would have like five to six artists, and I know that's over your limit.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:36

But as of it can be done right, though. It could be done. If you do it right, it could be done.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:40

And as of today, we at like seven, eight. And it's not even because like I don't want smaller shows, I really do. It's just we do them like once a month, and then now it got it its own uh popularity that's and not involving me. It's like its own thing now. So I get like messages of people wanting to reform. If I keep it small and I do once a month, I would have to tell somebody, uh, I could put you on a show for a month from now. You see what I'm saying? Seven months from now.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:08

They'd be like, what the and but you would another thing you do is smart too. Everybody got 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:12

Oh, yeah, 10 minutes at, not 45 minutes. You know, 10 minutes. And then I'll look at it like this. I'm paying you $50. Name me somewhere you can make $50 in 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:21

Facts.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:22

No, exactly. But so then, so let's, okay, so let's let's curate that. Let's do it like this. Let's say maybe, you know, because I be I do be saying shit just I'll never fucking, you know, but I'll be saying shit. But what I what I'm saying is you said seven to eight artists, 10 minute sets, that's an hour and 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:38

Yeah. Yeah. Facts.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:39

Out of a four-hour event. Yeah, you still got three, two, two hours, 40 minutes for the DJ to spend, yeah, and for you to be networking, talking. I could get some drinks. Taking it. Yeah. You know, if I see somebody, a chick I like, hey, what up? Or if you see one of your niggas that you ain't seen walk in in a minute, you feel what up, fam.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:58

You got the time talk to them.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:00

As opposed to you got 12 artists in one night, yeah, 10 minute sets each. That's fucking 120. That's two hours out of that's half of the time you're in there, you know. Nothing. And then and then when you do an event, you should already have the runoffs.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:15

You should have the hour when you start. Yeah, nobody's gonna show up right away. Yeah, and then you should have the runoff at the end, 30, 45 minutes for the DJ just to spend for everybody to get the fucking. Get out of here. Like, yeah, but the people don't do that. We're gonna do this four-hour event. You're gonna go on at fucking 9.15. We start the doors open at nine, you go on at 9.15, bro. Wait, which which isn't realistic. It's not, but they do it. They do, yeah. And you know what it is? Is they're making the money off the artists, the promoters make the money off the artists and not the uh the entertainment.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:44

Yeah, it's just like uh like it's already uh frowned upon to go first. So if I have you go first, I'm gonna make sure it's somebody in front of you. Facts, you know, like starting at 9.15. Ain't nobody here. See, but this is my thing, bro. If you pay me, I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:59

Hey, hey, no, real life. Bro, if you if you put money in my pocket, I'm gonna whatever, fam, whatever you need with it, and I'm gonna perform like this bitch packed to the fucking you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:18:09

The only thing that I don't like, you know, is when people throw shows, and then the person throwing the show does not have their own following. You know what I'm saying? So it's like you're completely dependent on the artist upon the artist for pedestrians or you know, patrons to be traffic, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:31

The traffic to be there, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:32

To be there. So, and that's why they be like, oh, you gotta stay and shit. Yeah, no, if I fucking want to leave, and then my people decide, I'm fucking tired, I want to leave too. You know, like there should be enough people based off of your name as a promoter to still stay there, you know what I'm saying? Or minimum you should have 20 people off of your name in that bitch at any given time.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:54

Or 20 people, yeah, exactly, off your name, knowing that you're gonna pick people that is gonna entertain them, right? Right, exactly. Because I I fuck with you because I know when you promote your show, I know you in your mind is like, who can I bring that's gonna have good music, good stage presence, and they're gonna fucking get the crowd to be into it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 1:19:14

I think that's the genius thing that he does with good vibes, though. It's like um he tried to be faceless for a long time. He didn't want nobody to know he was doing good vibes. He wanted he wanted to be the landlord that stayed upstairs. You know what I mean? And you didn't know.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:25

But like, yeah, you got to because like it's they need to see your face because they're like, Yeah, uh Paper Stacks, he put out good music, so I can trust just off of the music that when I go to the show, worst comes to worst, this nigga's gonna hop on the mic. You know what I'm saying? If it get bad, yeah. If it get real bad, this nigga might hop on the mic, take over the show type shit. You know what I'm saying? The genius. So like they're like, all right, fucking, I can depend that he's like, there's like a 75 plus percent chance that he's gonna pick artists that are equally yoked with his type of music, and I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:02

See what you're saying, I didn't look at it through those through that lens at all. The lens I looked at it through, because like you said, I kept my name off of it for a long time. Obviously, I didn't even intentionally put it in. It was like I didn't I when I'm paying artists, they see who they who paying them. You know what I'm saying? After a while, the word got out, you know. But uh it was more this this is a brand that I don't want anything to do with my brand. And I don't mean it in a way of like I wanted like for instance, this is an actual thing. We booked an artist, this artist uh did some domestic violence, uh, it got exposed, everybody found out about it, it went viral, and then because we booked him, someone tried to correlate uh uh tried to correlate that paper stack beat bitches too. No, it said that literally good vibes only supports women beaters. That's literally what that's literally what the post said. You see what I'm saying? And so it's like I looked at it like I seen this ahead of time. I said, if if that can occur, then what if somebody who just personally don't like me? Yeah, yeah. You know, and they be like, I don't fuck with him. I'm not gonna fuck with that. You know what I'm saying? And I just didn't want that. I wanted to be like something that grows on its own. And then if you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't. And then just come have fun. Because that's really what it became. It became like a place where people just have fun. Just have fun. You know, a lot of artists come, musicians come. Like you said, you see people that you know that you ain't seen in a while, and that's really what it what it became. Like, you just be in there chilling.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:36

But I think what you was gonna say, like weakness behind it.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:38

The most genius thing is like how he set it up, right? You you know how you say I like tighter events, like four people. I get that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:45

Yeah, but I really do get that for real.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:48

So like his shows usually be somewhere between six and eight, right? Yeah, two people, if it if it was just them two people out of four, bring nobody. That's just gonna happen. But they wouldn't ever have an opportunity to perform in front of a hundred people without these last six people on the what's the name. Yeah, and you y'all know. I remember being a Timbuktu, it's LL people I brought in this motherfucker. You know, it's eight of us in here, you know what I mean? And that can be uh it do something to your psyche, it can go one way or the other. I gotta go harder or I'm uh down, I'm finna quit. You know what I mean? So those two people getting exposed to things that we had to fight through. And now they're getting a head up and leg up. Um, so I think that's super special because like he's giving people who wouldn't normally have this opportunity to perform in front of these people, an opportunity to, hey, I don't know who that first motherfucker was, but they was flames. I got let me see what they got. Let me go, let me go see what other music they got. Like when you just show me bro music, I was like, hey, this my bunj is tough.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:40

He went crazy.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:41

Yeah, that shit's so.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:42

I'm tapping in. I'm gonna call about the good voice.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:45

So I honestly do think that is genius though, because like I get it. I do want tighter shows, you know what I mean? But yeah, some people wouldn't even have an opportunity to do certain things if it wasn't for the last six of us paying the bills in here.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:56

That's facts. And and the point I'm making actually is that if if you had more than that eight or the six, yeah, the bandwidth isn't there for people to be like, you know, you're only gonna remember two or three people that you don't know that night. That's facts. You know what I mean? So by when you start getting up higher and higher with the people on the flyer, yeah, you know, but the the chance you're giving them, it kind of goes down the more people you got because they're not gonna remember all these people. Obviously, you got breakthrough artists that just got such good music. Yeah, you know, you know what I mean? Stage presence, you know, which was what I feel like, you know, I take more pride in my performances than anything I've ever done in music. Yeah, quite. Like when I get on stage, bro, like that's my shit. Like you finna, even if you're happy place. What I love is like people in the back always look at me. You know, I'm the fucking chubby Puerto Rican motherfucker. They're like, what the fuck don't forget it? And I get up and they're like, oh shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I love that. I see the reactions in the I I literally, if you watch me perform, I'm looking. I don't even talk to the people in the front. Sometimes I'll, you know, obviously, because that's what you're supposed to do, I'll I'll let it be known. But more than more than anything, you'll see me. I'm looking in the back. I'm fucking flipping people off. I'm pointing at people in the back. I'm like, because I see them, they're like, oh, they'll turn around. Oh, or you'll see them like they'll start like, yeah. And then by the end of the set, they like let's go. You know what I'm saying? And just the bandwidth, basically.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:17

And I think that 10 minutes is a sweet spot. Yeah, yeah, 10 minutes is real nice. You got to do that. You gotta be high energy, you got high energy for 10 minutes. That 10 minutes could be a a a life sentence or a death sentence, depending on how you how you set it up, right? So if you go up there and you bind for 10 minutes, that's gonna be the longest 10 minutes of your life. Oh my god. I mean, we didn't seen it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:35

We didn't seen it, and that's why I tell people don't do whole songs, though. You didn't have the bad songs. I tell people don't do whole songs, bro. Do do your best verse off the song you like and drop the next one for 10 minutes. I could get five songs off, bro. Low key. I done seen it.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:49

So and to keep the room up, like oh boom, boom, boom. Because everybody is in secret competition with the next person behind. Exactly. You know what I mean? Because like I don't want my 10 minutes to look crazy next to this person 10 minutes to, you know what I mean? So it's like, let me show out. I'm gonna give all you my best songs in this 10 minutes. We're gonna crack this, you're just gonna be cracking. That's what you're gonna do. So I think that's why, like, that's the secret sauce in it. It's keeping things high energy, keeping people moving, like, oh, that shit's cracking.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:12

Then, like, we I used to do like intermissions. I don't even do that no more. Yeah, it's like straight. As soon as the show starts, we're gonna go right through each artist, boom, each artist boom. And then if somebody wants to get a drink, go get a drink. Yeah, but but you ain't gonna bring the whole group, all of us go get a drink because it's intermission. Yeah, you go get your your drink, exactly smart, and then you see it but then but then but then keep them in the city.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:33

Uh they got the dude at the club and shit, the the host or whatever. Uh we need everybody to watch everybody in the show. Everybody's gotta be like, bro, now you putting rules and shit on how the fuck I'm a uh no, I'm not saying you don't say, but they do that. I know y'all, I know everybody in here has been to a show and they're like, hey, we gotta respect the mic. Come on, y'all. Every we're here for the support, everybody support the city. I get what you're saying, bro. But now you're trying to like dictate how I'm enjoying my night, fam.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:57

It's fake, right? It's fake. Honestly, it is fake. If that shit popping, I'm gonna come from wherever I got to come from.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:02

And I'm gonna listen to it.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:03

If it's lit, I'm coming in to come. I'm missing something in there.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:06

Mama, they're going crazy in there. Let me go, let me go be a part. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:09

I was about to bring up a whole nother topic in here. But motherfuckers be like, come to the front of the stage. Like, nigga, I rap too. I'm not coming in the front of the stage. Man, I hate that. I'm in the back and I'm gonna watch you from over here. And if it's hot, I'm gonna rock with you, fam. And that's don't tell me to come to the fucking front, bro. I'm not a fan.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:21

I'm not, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? And then I don't have to be in the front to this these lot. I hear it, bro. I hate that. Like, I never controlled the crowd like that. I always was just like that's why I said that's a whole other topic. That's a whole other topic, bro.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be here all day.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:38

So once again, you know, before we close out, I just want to thank you guys for you know coming through and you know sitting down with us, discussing uh your journey, your artistry. You know, you guys are have quickly since I've dove through your music, become two of my favorite artists in the city. You know, and that's like really genuine. You guys are what I would call like an a rapper's rapper. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not of the ilk where like I think I'm too good to be a fan of other rappers. Facts. Oh, for sure. Likewise, bro. You know, I'm definitely a fan of what you guys are doing, and I hope you guys you know keep growing and keep dropping. I can't wait to listen to the new project as soon as we wrap this up.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:21

But uh super cold.

SPEAKER_13 1:27:22

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:22

Yeah, look at my roof, bro. Dropping soon. That's my shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:26

470. I hit City around right away on what? Yeah, I was like, these are my top three. Look at my roof is one of them. I was with a fall with them when you when you wrote them, so you can tell me. And that's the top words. We gotta do that. That's that's my last words, fam. Look at my roof when that shit dropped. Go check it. Craig and Dayday, the album was immaculate, fam. Like, so let's go, fam.

SPEAKER_13 1:27:43

Thanks. Y'all want to add anything?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:45

Uh look at my roof. April 17th is dropping. All platforms album, the entire album, May 15th.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:52

Let's go. Yes, I you know. Um, I appreciate y'all, you know, having us for real. That means a lot, you know. So, shout out. Y'all, all 414 podcast. I appreciate everything y'all is doing and all the doors y'all opening for people. 414. Um, but yeah, I mean, hey man, let's work. All like we all four of us should do a song. I think that'd be flames. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:28:11

We got the producer sitting right there. Let's do it. Let's go. I'm dead ass. For real, for real.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:15

Yeah, so that's all I gotta say. I'm Mo City, man. I'm part of Camp Shadowworth.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:19

Where y'all record at?

SPEAKER_11 1:28:20

You know, right here.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:22

We're home.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:23

Oh, this is booth.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:24

Yeah, okay. But yeah. Oh no, I pay attention to this shit. Listen, I'm just upset. I'll just be out in the world, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:34

I'll just be out in the world.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:35

Hey, but if you if you mess with me, mess with stacks, like and subscribe. Make sure y'all do that. We need y'all to do that. Support us so we can support everybody else. We keep pouring into one another.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:43

We're gonna and then go back and watch older shows. Facts.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:46

You know what I'm saying? Get get run it up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:48

Speaking of one question that I want to end right before I go into the closing. Yeah. Um, how can the all four one for all podcast audience find your content?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:57

Uh you can follow me on Instagram, uh big dog underscore stacks. Uh my music is on all platforms. My artist name is Paperstacks, capital P, Capital S one word. And yeah, you know, um I'm everywhere, guys.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:13

Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Mo City M-O-C-I-T-Y-S-W. You know what I mean? That's where you can find everything. I'm always talking about everything I'm doing on there. You know what I mean? But everything is Mo City SW. Find me everywhere, tap in with me.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:26

Google it. Let's get it. Yes, I. All right, so that concludes this episode of the R414 Podcast, brought to you by Illy, Street Team Hectic, Third War Studios, SG Films, and our guest for episode 37, Paper Stacks in Mo City.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:47

Congrats on 37, man. Yes, sir. Yeah, that's crazy. Tough, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:51

Appreciate it. If you haven't already, we encourage you to take a moment, subscribe to our channel, like this video, and leave us a comment about the topics that interest you the most. Thank you for watching and come back for the next episode of the All 414 Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:05

Get your promotion up.