All 414 All Podcast Episode 36 W/ Tré Lampkyn

Episode 36 Tré Lampkyn blesses us with a LIVE performance of his record 'My Travels'!! We then have a conversation about his rise in the hometown scene and his gold standard flow origins! Also, we speak about the Pooh Sheisty - Gucci Mane situation and a topic of chasing the dream the same way as before!!!

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SPEAKER_10 0:46

Yeah. Oh four podcasts what up. Let's go. Lamka. Listen. Listen. Rest in peace, tweezie, man. I done seen enough killin'. Trust me, I prefer to be at the crib. Just chillin'. Niggas act like they live in the millionaire subdivision. So tell me why the fuck would I mind the bum's business? Rednecks chewing tobacco. Rappers better come spittin'. Smoke with me. Delusional narratives. He runs with it. Revenge tastes sweet. That flavor's out of sight. But I gotta remember, two wrongs never make a right. Don't worry about the bitches that I like. I'm voice texting them. Long as they look and sound correct. I ain't got a type. This the shit I'm witnessing on my journey to greatness. I love my city, but it might hurt me in certain places. Too many distractions, and it's always a person hatin'. But despite that, this is my home, my turf is sacred. I got the foresight to tell you when it's gon' begin. With the rocket in my pocket, now we blastin' off again. See, I can live with a loss, cause I know I'm about to win. I ask myself, is this the end? In other words, Finn. Call yourself blackin' out on me, gonna make you see the light. In these main streets, I can't afford to be polite. What am I trying to do?

SPEAKER_08 1:57

Let opportunities go by and we're in life.

SPEAKER_10 2:06

With every single release, I'm ripping shit apart. I got tunnel vision and I'm good at walking in the dark. And I could care less if the criticism is harsh. They ain't sleeping on me no more. They dismissin my art. Hear me out. It's amazing what that hustle do. Rapper spitting nonsense, but I ain't here to trouble you. I'm baffled. They backwards actors, they be frontin' too. Still in the city, but claiming you made a bunch of moves. If I see them again, he better be tough enough for two. I ain't losin' no sleep from that. I'm living comfortable. Wait, hold on. It's a new day. Came a long way from eating spam. Now it's too flat. Knocking out all of my goals before the due date. No, it ain't no credence to what you say, touche. Stop complaining like a bitch. Develop some tunnel vision. You should only be focused on completing the fucking mission. Who the hell you think obligated to work with your grinded out? If this shit really do got some work to you, soon I'ma pull up, deliver this nice merch to you. But y'all be waiting for niggas to bring perks to you. My pain is art, bitches dismissin' that too. Wait till next year, man. I'ma speak on that soon. My niggas will leave your ass red like babones. Me, I'ma give you audio versions of a statue. We don't get it. Look, too many people in life that's doing the most. A half-ass and they responsibilities, what a joke. Didn't mature till they became 20 years from getting old. Letting qualified people coach me makes me a goat. That applies to life too. Narcissists wouldn't know that. Beefin' with your family, soon as we fall out, you go back. A mixed bitch swearing up and down if you pro-black. Just to let a white boy blow out your whole back. Damn, my bad. It's your boy Trey Lampkin. Rhyme so tight, you just might start cramping. I grew up on Grand Tosha. Shout out to Hampton. Can't stand me, cause I'm the last one standing. Nigga, Lampkin.

SPEAKER_12 4:04

Yeah, 404 podcast. What's up? That boy came with that truth. You the truth.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

What's good, what's good. Bro, there were so many fucking quotable Jesus. I can't even think of the one I like the best, bro.

SPEAKER_12 4:23

The one I like the best is uh the um mixed bitches swearing that they pro-black, let the white blow out your whole back.

SPEAKER_10 4:33

I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Damn, he said, I got tunnel vision and I like walking in the dark. Yep. Bro, develop that, man. You know, and that's not even the first verse had like fucking 16 straight quota books, bro. No bullshit, bro. That shit, that shit was tough. That's highly a little bit of a thought process, man. Thank you so much, Rocks. Thank you, man. Shout out to the city, bro. This is ridiculous, man.

SPEAKER_12 4:55

Y'all know what it is. R414 The Podcast. Get it.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 5:00

Mike Check, you're now tapped in to the R414R Podcast, where hometown artistry isn't just a statement, it's a standard. Before we dive into today's episode, take a brief moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell so you can stay updated on future episodes as we continue to bring you the truest talent our hometown has to offer. I am your host, the 414 Tycoon, more commonly known as Illy. And joining me as co-host is my lyrical brethren, the verbal executionist, Street Team Hectic. These episodes are brought to you out of the Third War Studios. And behind the lens, we got SG Films. Joining us for episode 36, independent hip hop artist and hometown bass songwriter, known for his introspective and storytelling style, Trey Lampkin. What's going on?

SPEAKER_10 5:50

Um how y'all doing today? Man, we feeling hella good having you here, bro. Hey, bro, that shit was you already know, bro.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

I'm when I hear shit like that, bro. I'll be like, why the fuck do I rap, fam? I don't even know. This is why I don't I ain't rap in two years, fam. But I you all had one verse out of me, fam, but that's why right there, fam. Man, yeah, but I appreciate it. And one of the topics is gonna match exactly what I'm saying. Like, bro, I know what I want, and shit. That shit right there is like, fam, no, I don't I don't want nothing to do with that, fam. I I ain't in no competition.

SPEAKER_10 6:25

Man, for real. I appreciate it, man. I sometimes I be feeling like you know, in Milwaukee. Sometimes I be feeling like people like in the city don't really be wanting to hear that necessarily.

SPEAKER_03 6:35

There is a vibe of that.

SPEAKER_10 6:36

There's a vibe where like you feel like that, but but I know it's not true, though.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

It's not I know it's not true. No, it's not. It's definitely not true. You got people like us and and and not even like just artists, just people overall.

SPEAKER_09 6:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

That there you go, you gotta think about. I always think about there's people our age, range, you know what I'm saying? Our generation. No, we work, we make money, we have lives, yeah, and we still consume music, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. I don't want to listen to all the old the new shit. I want to I want to listen to shit that is reminiscent of the skills, you know what I mean? Shit that's reminiscent of the messages and the like bro, you had so many punch lines and so many callbacks, and it was like, bro, it was amazing, bro.

SPEAKER_10 7:16

Hey, I I really appreciate it, man. That's that's what I do it for.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

And also, he went completely live, and when you hear him on the records, you'll have that feeling, and then you do it in live in person, it's like fuck yes, bro. It's like it's like the uh the full circle, right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's like the completion of like, all right, he's not just a studio rapper, you know what I mean? He's not just somebody that's in the studio killing it. He really does that.

SPEAKER_12 7:42

You know, I gotta I gotta prove that, you know. You sound very similar live as the same to how you do things. Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 7:49

That's a huge compliment. That's a really huge compliment for sure.

SPEAKER_12 7:52

And then one of the things that I think about like what you guys were just mentioning is um in the past, uh I kind of related to eating healthy, you know, like the whole you know, world was like that's all we had was like homegrown food and you know, livestock and shit like that. And then like as time went on, uh fast food became the thing, you know, and then microwaves, and everybody wanted their food fast. But now, as we've seen as a society where that's taken us, everybody's slowly trying to go back to you know, cooking their own food and not getting McDonald's and fast food and shit like that. Where you know, so I I feel like the same thing's happening with music. Absolutely. Like that's we've seen where this newer genre of music is leading us, and we're like, nah, no, I don't know. That's not where I thought this was gonna go. So I'm going back. Yeah, I'm going back.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

It's like, bro, that's a the analogy is so perfect. It's almost like when you know some of that music is dope in certain areas, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, which is kind of like how you saying, like, I try to stay away from all the bullshit, all the McDonald's. But if I go on vacation, yeah, I'm gonna just I'm gonna be eating some bullshit because I'm on vacation, you know what I mean? You feel me? Right. So that analogy is. If you're in the club, you're gonna be like, okay, you wanna turn up some shit.

SPEAKER_10 9:20

It's a time and a place. Yeah, it's a time and a place for everything. But big facts. Yeah, I agree with you. I I feel like, I feel like, especially with with so much going on in the world, it's like even in the music, who who wants to, with all that's going on in the world, right? Who wants to hear in their headphones all the time? Niggas talking about hoes and killing and I'm fucking your bitch. It does something to you.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

It does something to you. It do. It gives you anxiety, right?

SPEAKER_10 9:45

And I and I can't talk because I enjoy too sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Oh, yeah, you know, sometimes it's the no, you can talk about it.

SPEAKER_12 9:52

That's one thing we gotta stop doing as artists. You know, a lot of times I hear really good artists as well, you know. Especially, that's why I say you can talk about it because you're somebody who knows how to do the higher thought process music, yeah. Not as of each. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So in that um perspective, you know how to dumb it down and when to dumb it down. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But if you're somebody who just makes the lower thought process music and you don't know how to, you know, smarten up, you know what I'm saying? Then it's like, all right, well, then you can't talk about it. This person is qualified to talk about it. That that's to me, it's like a mechanic who knows all cars. Yeah, he can talk about new cars and old cars as opposed to a mechanic that has only been exposed to new just the new stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I I don't know, actually, no how I gotta hook it up to a machine and it's gonna tell me what's wrong. No, you're not okay. You're so you're not qualified to speak out what's going on with this old carburetor.

SPEAKER_03 10:57

That's a fact. He's spinning bro, analogy is on top of analogy for me. Oh, that's like the perfect analogy.

SPEAKER_09 11:03

He's spitting over here, you know?

SPEAKER_03 11:05

A motherfucker who knows algebra to the tenth degree can talk about addition and subtraction, bro. But if all we know is addition and subtraction, you can't fucking talk to me about algebra. You know, yeah, it's and damn dear, you can't talk to me about addition and subtraction.

SPEAKER_12 11:17

Yeah, yeah, because I know that better because once the numbers go up, you might start to basket, bro.

SPEAKER_10 11:24

I had to I had to learn that too. Like I had to learn, you know, I was because I started off being lyrical, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So that that kind of was all I knew for a while. It shows, bro. It shows. You know what I'm saying? And then and then I was one of my friends, I was talking to him, and he basically said, you know, everybody, everybody wants to hear like lyricism, but in in different capacities, yeah, if that makes sense. So I like you say I had to learn how to dumb it down, or like if I'm hearing a certain type of beat, like, no, I can't be super lyrical on this one. That ain't yeah I mean, yeah, yeah. I'ma still give you enough to, oh damn, this nigga's still fire. No, okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

You know there's a way to do it, there's a balance for sure. Because uh, you guys know who D1 is? That's a dog who be super positive. He knows you know what that is, yeah. New Orleans and shit. But well, anyway, D1's dropped a record where he's like telling he's like it's an anti-strip club song. And you know, and he was rapping on there, but it was too much for the the the beat and shit he had. Because he had it on a beat that uh a bitch a shake ass do in the strip club, you know what I'm saying? So it's like you know, he could have approached it differently. You know, the way you get the message across matters just as much as getting the message across, you know what I'm saying? Because like I because if he would have made it like maybe like he could have been talking like maybe from a perspective of the stripper or somebody who goes to the strip club, yeah, and he could have made it more cool and relatable, but he was like straight up like on the song, like he's lyrical, you don't want your daughter on the pole, you know what I'm saying? Stop going to the strip club, stop going to the strip club, you know, and it's like I get what you're saying, and the message is is uh it's an acceptable message, obviously. You know, yeah, cool. I get what you're trying to say, yeah. But you went too direct as well. Yeah, yeah. You went a little too direct at it. Sometimes you gotta go a little indirect to get your message off.

SPEAKER_12 13:13

You know, you know who uh that makes me think of a song by um they say like left eye was like that. Yeah, she was super. There was a record that they dropped, it was one of their biggest records or whatever, and they made her rewrite her verse to be more like you know, because she was like kicking knowledge of the version. Yeah, like when they got it back, they're like, uh we're trying to turn this into like that wasn't scrubs, wasn't it? I think it might have been scrubs.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

I know what you're talking about because I heard I was one of the bigger men and she yeah, and she was like trying, and they was like, nah, bro, we try to, you know, shit on niggas who ain't got money and shit.

SPEAKER_12 13:45

Yeah, they're like, you're like what you're doing is cool, but like it's not like nature wide.

SPEAKER_03 13:53

No, facts, yeah. No, but the message definitely can be portrayed in a better way, and you're really good at it, bro. You're good at you know, the way you twist your words and shit. And then the way you rap, and then you be saying shit where I I'm like, okay, it's gonna sound it sounds like you set it up for a bar, yeah, that's uh almost predictable. Yeah, yeah. And then you'll say some shit. I'm like, I didn't think you were gonna say I thought you were gonna say some whole other shit, bro. But uh, real quick, who who would you say, because I always like to find out who's people, you know, why people rap the way they do. Uh but who who would you say some of your top influences, like top three?

SPEAKER_10 14:27

Uh if you had to list them just uh uh Kendrick for one. Okay. I gotta get him out of the way. Um Kendrick, uh probably Nas. Okay. I definitely he he single probably single-handedly taught me how to storytell. Okay. Like being like vivid and you know, and descriptive. Um and then uh probably probably three stacks. Okay. Three stacks. Three stacks, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

You know what I'm saying? And you'll hear some shit like that. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's why I like to ask. It's not too wide the box, yeah. You know, like so. For me, I would say Twister, Luda, and uh I'm trying to think of somebody who's like really lyrical that influenced me. I mean somebody that's not even as lyrical on my songwriting to be like 50. You know what I'm saying? Obi Trice was one of a big influence. Obi Trice, bro, Obi Trice is that's kind of something you kinda got a little of a style of like how he does on uh how the callbacks are, like or he'll say some shit where it's not necessarily a sentence, it's just he sang it and it just sounds super fucking, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, Obi Trice Obi Trice. But for sure, my top two that I know show in me is like twist of the bone.

SPEAKER_10 15:49

Yeah, I can hear that.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

Ludo, you know what I'm saying? When you hear me rap, you're like, okay, I I see you. For sure.

SPEAKER_12 15:55

I feel like I gotta get mine. I say the most influential for me is M. Okay. Uh M M J Z 50 Cent. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 16:06

You know, I can hear that for sure. I can definitely hear that.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

That's why I asked that question, bro, because you'll you'll you'll find out a lot about a person. Yeah. You know, you'll ask these new, these new uh young cats, 20 to 18 year olds, and they they'll say shit like future and you'll be like, I get it, bro. You I can hear it. You can hear it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_12 16:24

Um, so who are a couple of the people you're connected with with here in the hometown? Um I first learned about you through BZ Bar, so I know him already. Right, right, right. Um, do you do music with any other um I've I've I've I got other features.

SPEAKER_10 16:45

Um I'm on um uh Joshua Jenkins. I was on his last um project. Um that is nope. Uh Joshua Jenkins. Yeah, he's from the city. Um I really connect as far as like engineers, um Nick Grace. He was he was my he was really my first like engineer that I worked with. Shout out to Nick Grace. Nick Grace, my that's that's the sensei man. Yeah, he definitely he taught me a lot. That's what he definitely taught me.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

Me and him be uh not beefing, but we be like talking shit about J. Cole. Like he, you know, yeah, I mean and I had to, I don't know if you've seen my status, I had to retract everything I said because J. Cole came out and fucking proved everybody else. And I was like, Well, this is me being a man, fam, taking a kind of bill. I can't say shit, bro. But yeah, but Nick Grace, he hopped on there like, I'm surprised he was all honest. I want to be like, why you surprised, bro? You an honest dude. I ain't say anything. I was like, no, but shout out to Nick Grace.

SPEAKER_10 17:45

Nick Grace, yeah. Um Tater Don. Okay, that's another Tater Don. One of my another one of my first engineers. Um outside of that, I mean Fuck them all, fam. I mean, I mean, you know, I be I like I like, but I still you know, I still fuck with BZ, um, you know, uh Jesus, that's my shout out Jesus. Yeah, shout out to Jesus, Kieve, um, David Lopez, that's my guy. Um okay.

SPEAKER_12 18:13

I usually uh I just wanted to ask that question because I feel like um as hosts of this podcast, we're always looking for people to be on the lookout for, you know, or like yeah, because now we gotta go check out Joshua Jenkins. Yeah, yeah. So it's like it's a good way for us to come across artists that we would have never heard of. You know what I'm saying? If somebody of your skill set is you know in close proximity with them, then it's like, okay, so this if he mentioned them, that's like we're gonna go check that person out. Yeah, as opposed to like if somebody who, you know, if we're out at a venue or something, and then we see a performance and the performance was not good to us, but then that person's like, hey, you gotta check out my dog.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

I'm like, you gotta check out Trey Lampkin. Okay, who's in there? Right, you know, but we found out through of you through somebody who when we found him, we were like, Oh, he rapping his ass off, and then heard you, and I'm like, Oh, because remember I said when we came in here when BZ's thing, before we started, I'm like, uh, I was smoke listening to smoking gas, and I'm like, whoever Trey Lampin is was cold. He was like, Yeah, that's my dog, whatever. And now we know full circle here.

SPEAKER_10 19:22

Shout out BZ, man. Big B man. And then uh, oh, I I got one more dude. My uh my guy Shy Mill Don.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 19:29

He um he he been on the scene like maybe a couple years, but he killing it. Killing it. What is it? Shy milk on, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

Like C H I. Yep. Shy Mill Shy Mill Don. Okay. Him and Joshua Jenkins, we gonna go check him out. Yeah, for sure. Shout out to the city, fam. And then uh y'all can rap a little bit, fam. You know, you know, motherfuckers got a little bit of talent.

SPEAKER_10 19:53

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 19:56

I'm telling you. 10,000.

SPEAKER_10 19:58

10,000, really.

SPEAKER_12 20:00

They say it's ten thousand. You if when you put it in, you do ten thousand hours, you're master.

SPEAKER_10 20:04

Okay, see, I've been saying it wrong ain't done.

SPEAKER_12 20:06

He's like, nigga, my first week, I hit ten thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_10 20:10

But you know, back back to your your your uh your talented point, like me putting in them ten thousand hours, like I heard uh because I uh um I listen to Ab Soul. Like that that that nigga, his mind is different.

SPEAKER_03 20:24

Yeah, see, look, that's another I can hear. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 20:27

No, he's shit, bro. Damn, then I just see a uh I think I just saw a reel where uh he's that I don't know if they're a plane or what, but he don't go by ab soul no more, he goes by. Oh, KRS2, yeah, yeah. KRS2, yeah, yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_10 20:47

KRS2.

SPEAKER_12 20:48

And he got the blessing from KRS one to do so.

SPEAKER_10 20:52

But but if you listen to like if you listen to him for like the the longest he'd been calling himself that for a while. Cause because if you watch that that video, KRS is like knowledge reign supreme. Right. And if you listen to Ab Soul, like he he he could teach you like about a lot, like not even just rap, like religion and you know, the the the the the system and you know what I mean? And and one of the the the bars he has on on I forgot the name of the song, but he said, um basically he said I'm not talented, I'm skilled. And I feel like that's really where where I'm at. I'm I'm skilled, you know, because I had to work on this. Like I wasn't always this fire.

SPEAKER_03 21:35

Damn, that's that's crazy because I'm I'm talented. No, no emotion. Like if it when if when he brings it up like that in that in that aspect, you know, it wasn't a lot for me to be a good rapper. Yeah, I was just I just did it, but I was like, let's freestyle with my friends and shit. Everybody was like, hey bro, you could kind of rap. And I was like, for real? It was like, yeah, you kinda rap. I'm like, okay. And then it's I didn't start trying. To be a rapper till about I rapp 12 years or some shit like that. Man, to when I really was like, I'm gonna be a rapper. Like, I wanna be this is what I want, you know what I'm saying? Damn, that's crazy that you said that, bro. I'm not talented about myself.

SPEAKER_12 22:17

Like, yeah, when I first started, I I felt like I wasn't the I was talented, but I felt like I wasn't the most talented, you know. Like if I had to compare it to something, it'd be like being on the basketball team, you know. Like you could tell, like I could play basketball, but there were other niggas who were definitely better than me. You know what I'm saying? And then it's like I had to really work at it to be mentioned above with those or above the people that started out better than me.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

You know, yeah, that's crazy. I've always just been like, we could rap, fam. Like words, and to me, I'm just like I see them. I'm like, I could just do it, fam. Like I could just literally, like, I've never ever been at a point in my rap life or whatever you want to call it, where I wasn't double syllable rapping at the very okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I I'd never, I can't even, it's actually hard for me not to do that. Like, really? Yeah, it's really hard for me to like write something and say, you know, like if I was like, I'm with Lampkin, I I cannot just be like, you know, some some sin or something. I just can't. I would have to be, you know, napkin, rapping, napkin. You know what I'm saying? So it's like super hard for me to not do that. That's crazy. That's respect. I guess I'm talented y'all. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 23:33

That's that's but but that's that's your yeah, you know what I mean? That's your your niche. That's a crazy perspective, but I never ever fucking thought about that. Because I I was growing up like when I wrote my first rap, it wasn't like it had potential, yeah, yeah. But I was like, this ain't it. And like, you know what I'm saying? But but I kept I kept working at it because I loved it so much.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

Like, it almost puts more behind it, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because you're really fucking great for writing. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_12 24:05

Um what are some of the things that you've been involved in um this year and last year um that you know say you would feel are notable as far as like endeavor-wise or being on people's shows or um I did a lot of um I did a couple um bar fests with BZ.

SPEAKER_10 24:27

Um he invited me out. Let's go shout out to the bar fest. Yeah, it's it's that's always lit. That's always lit. Yeah, man. The um Passion Park, like I said, David Lopez. He like that's that's my dude. Like uh he was there when they they played my um my song uh at the Bucks Game. Yes in Narcillo Jones.

SPEAKER_12 24:45

I never even had that yet. Yeah, what's the uh DJ's name for that again? Uh Shauna. Shawna. DJ Shauna.

SPEAKER_10 24:54

Yeah. Um yeah, um doing that. Um uh I'm um I just started participating, um, some shit called uh it's called Bar Work. Um ran by my guy Dre Merrow. He's a rapper too. Fire, fire ass. And that's another you think I'm dope. That Dre Merrow. Dre Merrow. That nigga there.

SPEAKER_12 25:16

What is that? Is that are they is that like a like teaching program or something like that, or what?

SPEAKER_10 25:22

Um no, it's like um similar to uh Bar Fest with B Z R he just invite um a bunch of a bunch of artists who you know obviously are are skilled, yeah. Um you know, and he just put them in front of the crowd and you know, just exposure and and networking and marketing and yeah.

SPEAKER_12 25:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 25:44

Yeah. Uh shout out to Dre Merrill.

SPEAKER_12 25:46

Weren't you recently on uh when was that uh rap draft? Uh yeah, I was on um I like his setup, bro.

SPEAKER_10 25:56

Me too. I love shout out Rick Taylor. I I love man that setup and everything.

SPEAKER_12 26:01

Rick Taylor, if you're seeing this, yeah, I want to get you on the pod, bro. Like, big salute to you and what you're doing, bro. Like I love Rick Taylor.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Yeah, he was another one, like uh I was telling Alan. Yeah, when we started, we was always going to breaking and entering and the rap draft. We would be using the freestyles they had. You know, before we started doing our own like like intro freestyles, he we always would use some of his and shit like that. Yeah, he actually put me on the uh not put me on, but that's when we had that LL Cooji freestyle in the beginning. That was on the rap type shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 26:34

So we was like, shit, that's he been he been on it, man. You know, I tell him all the time, I'm like, bro, you are the you the Milwaukee sway, bro. Yeah, I swear you are. I love it. Because he he he his not he he just he's so schooled. Yeah like in not not just the current stuff, but like a lot of the the legends, and and he's just so knowledgeable on on every aspect of of music. Right, you know what I'm saying? Like I really I fuck with Retailer to the city, bro.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

I love the whole the whole uh setup he got the rap draft, the uh rap uh what's it what's his that's his podcast? It's called The Rap Draft?

SPEAKER_12 27:15

Yeah, I think so maybe having them on like a fucking platform.

SPEAKER_03 27:19

A podium about to get drafted and just not with that shit.

SPEAKER_12 27:25

Um the new album you got, uh Jukeboxing.

SPEAKER_10 27:29

Jukeboxing, yeah. I was listening to it.

SPEAKER_12 27:32

That shit goes.

SPEAKER_10 27:33

Man, I appreciate it. Now I put a lot of effort and and time into that project. I really did.

SPEAKER_12 27:40

Yeah, one thing that I like about it is um now personally I prefer the Coliseum album. Um but I like I like when artists give you a different side of themselves between albums. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, because there's some artists who every album sounds the fucking same. Yeah, you know, and it's just like all right, is there anything more to you or what? Same old, same old. I like how the jukeboxing is different from the Coliseum, but they're both very good projects.

SPEAKER_10 28:17

Thank you, thank you. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_12 28:19

If I had to pick one personally, I'm bumping that coliseum just because like that shit sounds like war music to me, you know, and of that shit.

SPEAKER_10 28:27

It's funny you say that because like I was like when I was recording that that project, I was in I I feel like I was in attack mode, like you said. That's though, you know. I was I was arrogant and I'm you know, I got something to prove and I'm on it right now. You know what I mean? That's just what I was feeling.

SPEAKER_12 28:44

Jukeboxing just came home from battle. Yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_10 28:47

Just you know, I'm I'm kind of like reminiscing, you know, about the old days. You know, I I I say this to myself all the time jukeboxing is really like the project that my younger self always wanted to make. Okay. Because that like this that sound, like that's what I really fell in love with.

SPEAKER_12 29:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 29:07

Just just you know, like soul and um you know, just that older vibe.

SPEAKER_12 29:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 29:13

Cause I'm just I'm people say I'm old soul. So, you know.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Is that where the name came from then? Like jukeboxing kind of yeah, picking old records on the jukebox. Yeah, you know what I mean. Nostalgia type.

SPEAKER_10 29:23

Yeah, that's cold. Yeah, yeah. Which is why, too, the cover is you know, me as a kid, you know what I'm saying? Eating cereal.

SPEAKER_12 29:31

All right. So uh for those who may not have heard much of Trey's music, we're gonna go into another song from him.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

All right, this is called Milwaukee Talk. Yeah. Shout out to Ray Shot it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_12 29:46

This is actually one of my favorite ones from the Coliseum. Man, I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_10 29:53

Man, but that's that's the shit I was talking about. Like, like Milwaukee ain't just, you know what I'm saying? It ain't just, it ain't just the trenches and get old wood. Like, yeah, that's a part of us, but like Milwaukee as a whole is beautiful. You know what I'm saying? And me being a conscious, nigga like a conscious rapper. Like I done I dunno wrapped in audio, you know what I'm saying? But like somebody needs to show the beauty in a in a is is is is beauty everywhere the same way you should be. I had to tap into my roots with this one. I'm the realest nigga when I step up in the party. Ya dada on the but I'm pushing like a rarity. I'm the nigga this jumble nigga, I'm lying party. I need all this workers that don't know what to say, but be a microphone. Come back and I'm running up and wait for the next couple of years. I'm making up some money bullets.

SPEAKER_12 33:05

Hey, hey, this nigga's all high.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

Man, appreciate it. That beats like what you're saying about the fucking war type, man.

SPEAKER_10 33:16

Like man. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that was the whole theme of the project. I was just, I was, I was getting my shit off. Conquest.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

You know what I caught, bro? It's uh sometimes we rap too, like, not too good, I don't want to say that, but we rap so uh clever that I I be seeing where people will be like, alright, bro. You know what I mean? Because I'm like, bro. He said I had to say it twice just so they get the plot. Some people might not even know what the fuck he talked about, you know what I'm saying? Man, you know what I mean though? But that's that elevated, yeah, conscious type shit. Like, you you already know, you know what you you know. Like read a fucking book. I'm telling you, man.

SPEAKER_12 33:57

I mean, so like when you say stuff like that, it's like I said, I had to receive a package to get the box.

SPEAKER_10 34:06

I'm telling you, hey, because I I I grew up, you know, with a lot of thoughts, man. So thanks. A lot of I was I was a think I was a thinking ass nigga.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

So I feel you know, I feel sometimes like on those type beats, yeah. I I kind of like that I've had beats like that, not like that. That was super amped up, like yeah, like he said, some war ready shit. But like, you know what I mean? Like with the with the drums like that, yeah. Milwaukee type drums. Yeah, I sometimes I'll I'll get to write into those and I'll be like, I'm I'm doing, I'm thinking too much about it. I'm I'm getting too too lyrical. You know what I mean? Like I gotta just fall back. And then if I can't, I'll be like, fuck it. I just and then I've never done it, I've never released a song like that all the way because I always feel like I try to not that I try, it's just it just ends up happening. Yeah, because the beat's so far, I'm like no, for real.

SPEAKER_10 34:55

And even when I was like, even when I was like writing that, I I was in that same mode of like, what let me let me slow it down. Hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:03

Let me do the show. You gotta just you know, keep it simple, it's better on those beats, yeah. Yeah, you know. Sometimes I'll be like, Man, I can say so much on this right now, bro. You know what I mean? And then that's like you know, like from my what I told you from my influences. I like to rap twist a little bit. Yeah, I'll start and I'm like, oh no, stop doing that. You gone, you be gone. Yeah, you don't be trying to twist too much. But yeah, I just I noticed that he was like, he's like, I don't think they get the plot. And I'm like, see, some people might that shit might whoosh right over their head, fam. Airport, yeah. Say it again to make sure they get the plot. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 35:38

And they probably audience. A lot, a lot of my my my lyrics would be doing that.

SPEAKER_12 35:44

All right, AJ over niggas' heads, but so before we move into this next portion of the episode, if you haven't already, take a moment to hit that subscribe button and notification bell to help us grow our audience. A like, comment, or share with a friend are also great ways to let us know you supported and watched the episode. Also, shout out to our sponsor, Illy Tents, for financing these episodes. If you or someone you know is looking to transform your vehicle, add privacy, or keep it cool by blocking those sun rays out. Give us a call today at 414-326-7283 or stop by the shop in Franklin 8581 South 27th Street to book your next appointment. Also, I wanted to turn it over to you real quick, see if you had anybody you wanted to shout out, or you know, you could be Snoop Dogg and shout yourself.

SPEAKER_10 36:32

Shout yourself up. Uh man, uh, shout out to uh Parks from the Joe Budden Podcast. Uh he hit me up in my my DMs actually. Um, because one of the the the Miss Thelma song on Coliseum. Last join the last joint. Uh he he liked it a lot. So he hit me up. Shout out to Parks from the Joe Budden Podcast. Um and uh uh and and Benny the Butcher, by the way. He he hit me up too.

SPEAKER_03 37:02

Okay, let's go. Hey bro, he's over here talking about shit. At first he said, like, I ain't really got nothing to do. Oh my way.

SPEAKER_10 37:13

Shout out to uh very successful people that talk about it like that.

SPEAKER_12 37:19

Thank you, uh Jay-Z for sending me that you sent me an invite what I was hungry while I was at work. Jay-Z sent me a pizza. Oh not pizza, no.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

No biggie, yeah. Not pizza, bro, tacos or something. Yeah, never pizza, fam. He never sent nobody pizza. Man, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 37:37

Hey, Jay-Z hit me. I look, yeah. I don't even know if I would be here right now.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

I might have had to cancel the pile. I'm just saying hey, I would be understandable, fam. That's probably the best reason the motherfucking uh we definitely would think he jacking. Man, he bullshit.

SPEAKER_10 37:53

So I gotta send y'all the proof. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_12 37:57

That's what's up. I said Benny the Butcher. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

Shout out to dog. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_12 38:02

I actually got to uh you know do a little bit of uh recording at the uh what was it the the hip hop week?

SPEAKER_10 38:10

Yeah, the hip hop week butcher was performing and shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, I was there. Yep.

SPEAKER_12 38:14

They had uh, you know, there was like a couple other cameramen there, but they were just you know, they were afraid to step on the stage. Yeah, I was like, all right, ain't nobody getting on the stage. This is my time to shine.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_12 38:26

Right up there with the camera and I was all up in this nigga's faces.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

That's because Daw look like a uh security guard and shit. They thought he had security clearance. It was like all he talking shit. They're like, Oh, you thought he was. I remember when I was over there, I'm on the side, I'm like, oh shit, it'll be on in this nigga face. I was like, oh shit, he's shooting the whole shit.

SPEAKER_12 38:45

So we gotta get this. We gotta get this whole camera now. I need to uh look into that footage and actually send it to them because I still haven't sent it to them. But um all right, so um let's move into uh interview portion of the episode. Uh in your own words, give us a summary of who Trey Lampkin is.

SPEAKER_10 39:05

Um just really I'm I'm just uh a person navigating navigating through life, figuring it out just like everybody else. Only difference is I'm a rap about it. You know what I mean? And you know, hopefully my you know listener supporters, you know, they can hear it and you know whoever is is whoever my music, you know, is supposed to touch will will do that. You know what I mean? Like that's really at the end of the day, like I I pull from from life, you know what I'm saying? Because that that life is endless inspiration to me. You know, so um yeah, just just just just a little nigga who who watches anime and you know, and and likes rap and you know, figuring out life.

SPEAKER_12 40:00

Fuck with that, because a lot of people don't um kind of how you started that off, you know, you you you're moving through life, but you're gonna rap about it, and you're gonna talk about you know, the obstacles that you're overcoming or coming across. And that's where a lot of people fail, you know, or a lot of people um meet their you know, fall is they don't talk about it enough, you know, the things that they're going through in life, whether it be with someone else or a journal or poetry or whatever, they don't let those thoughts get out. Yeah, you know. That's true. So um I hope anybody watching this really takes away from that, you know.

SPEAKER_10 40:42

And that's what keeps like I feel like that's what keeps my or at least that's what everybody tells me is that what that's what keeps my music like fresh. Yeah. Like you, you, you know, because I really do feel like, you know, art imitates life, you know, and vice versa. Like, so when when when when you hear a song and you know, it sounds like I'm rapping about a specific topic, even though I'm not being specific. You know, nine times out of ten I am.

SPEAKER_12 41:10

Right.

SPEAKER_10 41:10

But I'm I'm rapping in a way to where it's it's consumable enough for somebody to be like, man, I'm I know what he's talking about. Yeah. Like I'm I'm going through that same thing, man.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

You know what I mean? Yeah. So relatability is a key to uh longevity, I think. Yeah. I think you could be a spur of the moment rapper or an artist, you could be a singer, anything and it'll it'll do what it's supposed to. But if you listen to any any timeless record, it don't matter if it's rock, country, pop, rap, they all have something in there to this day that'll be like either you remember living like that or you remember it happening in your life, or it's currently right now. There's songs right now I hear from the 90s or something like that. Some country singer, like white girl shit. And I'll hear I'll be like, oh, that is facts. Yeah, like they talk about some shit that I went through last week. You know, especially because you know, we were kids back then. Yeah, we didn't really understand, you know, and then you'll grow up and be like, oh shit, that that happened to me, like I said, a couple weeks ago or last year. I'm going through it right now, and I'm like, Yeah, holy shit, like that's why. And then and then you sit back and you're like, Oh, that's why that's a forever song. That song will forever be a hit. You know what I'm saying? Like, sorry. That relatability is a motherfucker, bro.

SPEAKER_10 42:28

That's why juice, that's why juicy is juicy. Like, like, juicy is is is it was all a dream. I used to read your word of magazine.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Like, that was like I was a kid, grew up and like hanging pictures on my wall.

SPEAKER_10 42:41

You know what I mean? Like every Saturday, rap the trap, Mr. Magic Wall and my You know what I mean? Like that brings me back to the days where you know, I'm walking, walking to school, and and I'm bumping some in my head from the colour.

SPEAKER_03 42:55

My farter was mine, you know, yeah. Like that's that's what it brings me back to when you when you said that, yeah. Like I remember walking to school with a with a walkman in my old ass. The no skip walkman that still skip. So yeah, I have like that, you know, with the CD, bro. Yeah, and I'm listening to Carter in the Capitol, only key to survive is killed. Like, and I used to just bring me back, bro. Days, yep.

SPEAKER_10 43:22

Tim the days, good old shout out to Gilly the Kid. That's great, that's crazy. I can see that's crazy.

SPEAKER_12 43:30

I always be breaking that shit up. Um, what is your hip-hop origin story? Um, that's a great question.

SPEAKER_10 43:39

Yeah, it is. Um, it's a new one. He caught me off guard the show. Um, my origin story. Um one day, um, while I was always a lover of music, like my my you know, my parents, my family, like my My dad, he always he loved West Coast, like my dad, West Coast junkie. Okay. Like Dre, NWA, Nate Dog, Corrupt, you know, Eminem, like the old Eminem, Dog Pound. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. And, you know, my mom's side was more of like um they they played a lot of, you know, funk, you know, James Brown, Temptations, you know what I mean, stuff like that. But like I fell in love with, well, I fell in love with all of it, but but rap is what really got a hold of me. And one day I got inspired by it's a two-short song called The Ghetto. And that was probably my favorite song because similar to what I do, he was just rapping about just what's going on. Like what he's seeing. What he's seeing, and and then this is what it is, and and here you go. And like that inspired me to be like, damn, I want to do that. Yeah. You know, because I was already uh I was already uh great at writing. Like that was that was my gift when I was younger. Like I was a writer. Like, you know, poems and and stories and stuff. And shout out to the poem writer. You know, and and my my teachers knew that, you know, my mom knew that, you know. But, you know, once I once that combined with my love, like for music, that's when I was like, yeah, let me let me see if I can do this. Yeah. You know, and then I wrote my first rap and it wasn't all that, but you know what I mean. It it it did have potential, you know what I mean? And um, and and I loved it so much, I was like, no, I want to get better because I love it so much. And I just, you know, took it from there. Now you sitting here being a fucking animal.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

What the you know what I mean? That was for real. That's crazy. That's a good question, bro. Because that was a great question. Shit you want to hear about the artist, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 46:00

Like, I feel you know, I've had that question in the chamber for a while, but I was like, when when I planned your episode, I was like, all right, he's like the perfect person to, you know, because you're almost like a you know, how I feel about lyricist, like really good lyricists, like you're almost like a fucking rap superhero. Man, you know what I'm saying? So it's like thank you so much. You know, if not a superhero, you know, a super villain. That's because like I I could care less which one I thought I think about it like as if um, you know, the X-Men are like, you know, we're mutants, we're all mutants, and you know, the X-Men are like trying to fucking they're not killing the other mutants, they're being the positive like, hey, you know, like don't kill the humans, yeah. But like they're also not trying to like kill other mutants, then you got the magneto.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Magneto or Professor X, which one you know, are you riding with? Yeah, right. Stuff some days, I'll be on some magneto shit.

SPEAKER_12 46:56

Yeah, you know, so like I felt like you were the person to open up the origin story question with.

SPEAKER_10 47:03

Yeah, that's because and and it's funny you say like even like the other part of my origin story being like I I was born when I was born, I had um, I actually had hearing loss. Uh when I was born, I had like hearing loss in my, I think it was my my left, I think it was my left side. Um You can't remember because you just hear everything so cold. No, but but no for it, but but because of that, I I grew up with all also getting uh gaining a speech impediment. Okay. And it was a little, you know, growing up, it was difficult for me to, you know, you know, start talking and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 47:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 47:41

Um, you know, so and one of my my guys pointed out, he was like, it's funny that you know, yo, yo, what you use to to hear and and speak is like is is what your superpower is right now. Right back to you know what you were saying, like you know, you you you you you need your ears to to to construct these projects that you're making. Yeah, like yeah, but you you also need to know how to talk if you're gonna rap like this. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_12 48:11

The two things you almost didn't have strength exactly, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 48:15

Daredevil shit, bro.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Yeah, I can't see, but I can fucking hear, feel everything else elevated.

SPEAKER_10 48:23

Seriously.

SPEAKER_12 48:24

No, I I I feel the same way. I kind of relate to that because uh when I was younger, um I was like a real I was into everything as a kid, you know, and I was very hyperactive and like, you know, my family kind of didn't know what to do with me. My mom was like, you know, the doctor was like, put them on medications and stuff. I was like, hell no, you know. So like, right, but I was uh I would get into everything, you know. But one time I had gotten into my aunt's pill boxes, you know, like she used to take a bunch of pills for whatever. I got into her pillbox, I took a bunch of the pills or whatever. He's been buffed ever since. Wow, yeah, you know, and they had to like rush me to the hospital and a bunch of shit. Um, but you know, I think about that type of shit now where it's like, um, you know, like I almost lost my life young, you know what I'm saying? But then now I think about the impact that my life has in so many different areas with different people. It's like, you know, like I I look at my, you know, like he kind of he was saying, like my strength. Yeah, you know, like I be in the gym and like it's a big reason why I go so hard is because like I know in the back of my head, like, you know, my life was almost over at one point. So it's like, you know, like I every day I have, you know, I I wake up super happy and I'm like ready to get to it, you know, because I know like that weakness is now my strength. The fact that I'm here is like my strength type shit.

SPEAKER_03 49:51

You know, so I think there should be a scientific study on see that the problem is that people be trying to downplay the fact that you can uh dissect lyrics, you know. Like the way you put words together and the way that you uh deliver them and the way that you uh construct them onto the beat, all that shit matters, and people be downplaying it. But let's just say, for my sake, real quick for a minute, that we did put that on the table. All right, this is facts, you're a good rapper, yeah. They should study that because what you said, and now that he's now that it's it's all coming in my mind, but like it's all like coming together, and I'm like, damn, but a couple of times, more than a couple times, there's always one or two things that connect everybody who raps good. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know, like what he said, bro. Before I ever rap, I got published in a tri-state poetry book. Yeah, a poem about fucking leaves, bro. Stupidish, you know, I see the leaves, I go, I jump in the leaves. That's all stupid. But I was a writer though, as a kid, I've always been a writer. And you saying that kind of like, I was like, oh, that's that's a correlation. You know what I mean? Like, and I was and and I never before I wanted to be a rapper, I wanted to just be an entertainer, you know. So that's that's maybe what separates me from us three. Yeah, but I was at in church. Oh, okay, okay. Okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You learn from pastors and church and instruments, and I was in band because of church, you know, boom, connection. But I feel like you could almost always connect a good rapper in one or more instances, you know what I'm saying? For sure. There should be a study on that, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that'll be dope. You know, because if you think about it, the deterioration of lyrics and skill set in the rap game kind of correlates to the you know, like as everything in your life does at home. Yeah, yeah. A lot of these kids ain't learning how to be readers and writers, they don't give a fuck about church no more. Like, you gotta think about church, bro. Kids don't grow up in church no more, bro. Maybe in certain places in America, like certain cities, but overall, as an overall, they're not going to church, bro. They're not they're not learning certain shit, they're not fucking being taught. All a lot of the kids, you know, in especially in urban areas, that's that stands for black and brown. But you know, in those areas, motherfuckers ain't even being taught how to read correctly, you know what I'm saying? And then it reflects in what the type of the music is these days. So I just want to throw that out there, bro. Just y'all got me thinking that's a fact.

SPEAKER_12 52:24

That's a fact. All right. Um what are some of the most notable ways your style has evolved over these years?

SPEAKER_10 52:32

Um my my style, I would say. Uh I'm um I'm starting, well not starting, I've been, like over the years, I've been doing more stuff like with my voice. I I could say. Like because I used to be like when I first started recording, I I thought I was like just so like monotone. Monotone, yeah. I guess. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 53:02

That's a thing, yeah. That's a thing.

SPEAKER_10 53:03

And like, but then I noticed like how I like how I speak regularly, like to my my people when I'm with my friends, and like I'm pretty animated, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like so. I'm like, I'm like, I need to I need to incorporate that in my music so I can like continue to stick stick out more. Right. You know what I mean? So I I've been I've been working on that, definitely for sure.

SPEAKER_12 53:28

I'm glad to hear that because as I was um, you know, now that I've come across you as an artist, I've been kind of digesting a lot of your music, and um one of the things that I did notice was you know, some of the songs that you had in your earlier projects were like very, very clear, like you know, very well enunciated, and it there was just not too many effects on things, and you know, it was just straight to the point, you know, the lyrics were straight there, and then you know, we had played a record on here, the one that you got, you gotta move. Oh, greatest rapper. Yeah, that fucking track, like just the way that you were saucing the shit out your fucking vocals, and like, you know, you were real animated with that track, and then you know, there's a couple of the tracks on the Coliseum too, and then the new jukeboxing project, like you could tell like the elevation, yeah. Like the animation is like you're really starting to like grow into your voice, and like you're you're getting more comfortable with um yeah allowing yourself to try different things, you know. And so I commend you on that because a lot of there's a lot of people that don't um they don't they they just think that they're perfect. Oh yeah, you know, oh yeah, yeah. They don't capitalize, yeah. Especially in like in the newer scene, they're like, oh, my music is good, you know, and this is what I do. And they're they're not like trying to expand into like, you know, trying different things, you know. So like I really commend any artist who's willing to like make little improvements or you know, even test out how certain sounds might work on them, you know.

SPEAKER_10 55:04

And I was never the type, like, even like with when my niggas, like, when they would hear my shit, like, you know, I would tell them like, hey, let me know what what you what you think. Like, honestly, do I do a sound right? Do I need to do this? Do I do do the hooks sound right? Do I need to level, you know what I mean? And I was never the type to like like get upset when somebody would critique it or you know what I'm saying? Because that's what I feel like makes me better.

SPEAKER_03 55:29

You should you should want people to tell you, yeah, hey bro, that was straight.

SPEAKER_12 55:34

Yeah, but you know, hey, do this, you could do better, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's it's hard to even critique a artist at your caliber, though, because it's like, like I said, your music is really good. And like I appreciate it. Like lyrically, you're fucking really good. So it's like it's almost like fucking uh you go into like a well-established restaurant, and the cook has been back there for years, like putting out bomb ass food, and then like they bring you this plate of food, and you're like, damn, that was really good. And the cook's like, yeah, is there anything that you didn't like about it?

SPEAKER_10 56:10

That's literally me.

SPEAKER_12 56:12

Uh maybe it could have used a little bit more salt. That's a B to a T.

SPEAKER_03 56:17

What it what it is is it goes from critique to preference. Yeah. Okay, it goes it goes from that's exactly that's a fact. You could have did this better because you could have did it better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes from that to I I like music that does this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you didn't do that, so maybe you could have tried, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, now we talk about preference. We're not talking about an actual critique of what you're fucking, what you could be better at, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, Italy's right, bro. You're you lyrically, lyrically, it's not even a question. That's already out of the way, you know, and then voice-wise, you got a strong voice, bro. Yeah, it's low, yeah, but you actually know how to, you know, but that that uh greatest rapper record, he was talking about that. When we played that shit, I'm I was like, that shit go, bro.

SPEAKER_10 56:59

That's that's probably it is crazy because that's one of my like one of my most like stream songs. Like, no, it makes sense, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 57:06

It and it makes a lot of sense. It has the the bounce to it, yeah, the the the the message behind it, you know, like hey, you gotta move, fam. Like so, you know what I mean? And yeah, it's it's it's just one of them, one of them ones, bro. One of them records, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 57:19

So and then even in the the you know, the song I I performed. Um that's called uh My Travels. And in one of the bars, I say, like That's just so cold. No, one of the bars, I say like letting qualified people coach me. Yes, yeah, makes me a GOAT. Yeah, you know what I mean? So like I don't be like I be living this, I don't just be saying this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 57:40

I'm so glad you brought that up, bro, because that was one of the records, one of the lines, votable songs.

SPEAKER_10 57:45

Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's that's a fact, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 57:48

When you when you said that line in the song, I thought about there's a fucking movie. I can't remember the name of the movie right now, but there's this like fucking elevated um like house, you know, it's just like at the top of a mountain. But the at the house, there's like the only thing that's up there is a bunch of goats.

SPEAKER_10 58:08

I'm trying to figure out what's what movie you talking about.

SPEAKER_12 58:11

And then uh it's like a fucking action movie. Okay, okay. Um and like there's just a bunch of goats. And I feel like that's that's what 414 has become. Like, we're just like a home for goats. A bunch of just greats, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 58:28

A bunch of greats, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 58:30

Like, you you can't come up here unless you're a goat.

SPEAKER_10 58:32

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? The greats gotta go somewhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 58:35

You know, so shout out to everybody who's already been out of pie.

SPEAKER_03 58:38

You know what that's standard setting, man. Standard setting.

SPEAKER_12 58:40

Yeah, the setting of standards. Facts. Um, last question I got for you. How can the all 414 all podcast audience find your content?

SPEAKER_10 58:49

Um, I'm I'm literally everywhere. YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, uh SoundCloud. I uh I think Shazam, if I'm not mistaken. Um I'm I'm everywhere. Um, everything Trey Lampkin, all socials, Trey Lampkin with the Y. Don't, don't, don't put the I with the Y.

SPEAKER_03 59:14

So I'm gonna put it on the screen too.

SPEAKER_10 59:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:17

But yeah. Shout out to Trey Lampkin. Let's get it. You know what I mean? And you super, you a super cool person too, bro. Like I appreciate it. You know, we vibe in fam, man. That's important to me, even more beyond, you know, like you can make great music, and all that, but if you was if you would have came in here like, yeah, you know, I'm the best, bro. Hurry up, let's do it. Like, I don't know. Oh no, no, you know, but I'm just saying, yeah, I'm just saying some people come out like that, bro. I mean, not that they've come here, they haven't been on here. There is people out in the world that you know they just move a certain way, yeah. Yeah, and you like, oh, you like that. You know, you could have came in here and be like, all right, and it's been quiet. Like, yeah, just wait, ask questions, like, yeah, you know, I'm I'm I'm a goat. Cause I know in my yeah, I'm I'm too cool for this.

SPEAKER_10 59:58

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 59:59

Like they they do that, people.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:01

But like I said, I'm I'm you know, I'm I'm a regular, I'm just a regular nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

No, I feel the same way, I'm just I'm just me, bro. Like, I don't gotta go nowhere and be nobody else, bro. I'm just I don't think I'm better than nobody. You know, I just I just came to be me. I'm here to chill, and I like having fun. I hate being in a uh standoffish ass environment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to just be cool and shit. But which I do, I argue if you get me to go there, but only with people I respect. Yeah, yeah. Like if I fuck with you, well, we can argue, fam. Oh fuck that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Because the love, you know. Yeah, because the love I respect you enough to eat. I wouldn't say argue.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:37

He he debates. Yeah, I think which is you know, that's yeah, that's a sign of an intellectual person. And when when they like you, they're you know, yeah, they've dropped their guard enough to be well like, all right, well, let me pick your brain.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

I disagree with what they're saying, and you disagree with what I'm saying. Let's find let's find a way to fucking, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:56

I love a good debate. I'm I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

Yeah, no, good debate.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:59

That's what's up. Yeah, all right. So um, we're gonna move into the MKU music review uh section of the podcast now. Um, what which side do you want to start? You want to start with him?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

I'll start with me. I'll start in the middle of the day. Okay, just because I changed my I changed my pick, bro, and I'm about to play one of my favorite songs ever from Milwaukee, ever, ever, ever. Ever. Not even from Milwaukee fam, just overall, one of my favorite songs, bro. This is my fucking guy, fam. He's super, super underrated, fam. Shout out to Playboy Bully, fam. Shit. He's one of the most underrated rappers out the city, bro. And he's not, he's not a lyrical lyricist that's, you know. But bro, he if I had to pick anybody in the world that I would uh put him next to as in comparison to like what he talks about, and yeah, too short, bro. Oh, yeah. He the Milwaukee too short to me, fam.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:50

Oh, I know we gotta get some stickers out of these things, man. Cause every I'm always so afraid that I'm gonna hit the that's why I don't touch this shit because I'm like, which one off?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:04

Low key, low key, I gotta take that off of it. I gotta I gotta put that on another uh soundpad type. You bigging somebody up and then just gone.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:16

I'm so afraid to touch it just because I don't want to run into that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

I'm gonna move it over a pack because you know I could put like certain different sets and shit. I gotta move that over. But that's reserved for y'all trash ass. Oh, yeah, you you niggas that's weak. But so for for the last almost 20 episodes, we've been having guests and people that we fuck with, so that button's almost obsolete relevant. Yeah, you know, like we started off doing just other songs that we listened to. So, but yeah, but all right, anyway, back to Playboy Bully fam. You one of them ones to meet, bro. The Milwaukee too short, and I don't say that to compare you to nobody, I'm just trying to think of a way to compliment your music and uh explain to people what they're in for. Okay, so this is uh Playboy Bully Ghost. This is my shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

Another thing I never get in.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Whoa whoa, I'd start it over.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:07

All right.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:22

Yeah, I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:23

I was hard, bro. And all his shit is like that, bro. I don't give a fuck. I like it. That's one of my favorite artists out of the city, fam. Like, I fuck he got music that he he I went to a whole listening party. Where my kid, that's my camera, bro. Drop that shit, fam. He got this one song. I I learned my lesson when I loved you. And it's like, you know, it was I was going through some shit with my bitch and shit. I was like, this is the shit. But shout out to Playboy Boole, fam. You one of them ones to be fan. You fire. Ain't he different? He don't rap like nobody else. You're never gonna hear nobody that rap like dog. So shout out to Daw. All right, man. The next one we got. We're gonna go. Uh we're gonna go his because I feel like Illies is not a middle song. Uh definitely not a middle song. That's how I said all right. So this next one, man, we was talking about this earlier, bro. This is Smoke and Gas by B Z Bars, featuring Trey Lanker himself in Vegas Rose. Let's go.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:18

Let's go. My nigga said three headed dragon is cheap.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:16

I'm not trying to come and do the biggest thing, but smoking guns money.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:40

The police think I do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:44

Why you don't travel? Shit, the police think I do. Yeah. I never even there's some bars on there I fucking like I didn't register the first couple times I heard that song. But again, uh you you proved exactly what I was saying, bro. You be saying shit sometimes where if if you if you're not you know paying attention or you don't know a lot, you know you know, you're not gonna, you know. The gesture, that shit was cold, you know. The gesture, uh gesture, like that shit was cold, bro.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:16

Like even next, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

Hey, I never caught that BZ bar. He was like, uh, he said they look demon now, and I'm a demon straight.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:25

I'm a demon straight, yeah. Come on, bro. BZ fight.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:28

Yeah, nah, he's he'd be snapping, fam.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:30

And BZ had a really different flow on that. Like, I did not expect the cadence to go where it went on there.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

So yeah, I fuck with that. You be doing it. I love it, bro. I fucking love it, fam. Like, I I wish I would have, not that I I wish, but you know, it's one of those uh like damn, when I was in my prime, bro, I would have linked up with Charlie, it would have been fucking man, I'm telling you. Like, you know, back when I was doing my shit, bro, like it's almost like uh wish you would have met sooner, type of thing.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:00

Yeah, exactly. That's that's it. But I'm cross paths sooner. That way, bro, that's it's it's hard now, like um getting back into because and I speak for myself, but I know you feel the same way because we're both getting back musically to where we were, you know, because we took a hiatus for a long time, you know, and now it's like we're meeting all these people, but it's like we don't got that same like fire yet that we had, okay, you know, at a certain point where we felt like shh it's endless, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:31

Like bars are in the clip, like you know, and well, exactly what he said, but to add to that point, there was a point when we just rapped. Okay. We ready to just rap, and go. We, you know, we might have had a job or a little side hustle or something, but now his business is 100% fucking up, you know, up, you know. That's for me. I'm by my as far as a career-wise, I've been at my my my uh day job for 10 years. I've been getting paid more and more every year. You know, it's like, you know what I mean? So you like you get to a point where you're like, now I'm a grown-up and I got all you know what I mean? So you feel like you got more kids and then we got the podcast, women, yeah, you know, we got relationships, so it's like you know, and now I'll be looking at it like, man, I just want to go do that, bro. Especially when I hear y'all rap like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:15

If I had the time like I used to, and it's crazy because I'm I'm doing all this, I'm 26 with a kid, yeah, two years old, like 26. I got a job too, like, you know what I mean? So you had a uh a rap killer.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:31

That's what I've been telling people.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:33

No, I just say that if you want to.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:36

No, but no, but the the only reason I say that is because you know, it's if you're which I get the vibe from you that you're a stand-up man, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah. So being a stand-up man, that's always gonna take precedence. Oh, yeah, yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So I'll just be telling people, like, if if you are it's too late, I can't tell you you already had a kid. But if you would have not had a kid, yeah, I would have been like, bro, don't have a fucking kid. Just wait. You cold, bro, right? And do your shit, right? Right, man. I'd be telling all the young people, like, bro, if you cold, if I fuck with you and I got the nigga, don't have kids. Yep, just focus. Women will be there when you get done, bro. Just do what you gotta do. You know what I mean? Just focus. I look at my kid like you look you I love you know. Man, I hate it. Nah, but I love shit on my butt you know, I'm like I like I said, when you a stand up man, that's regardless, is gonna take precedence. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:22

Oh, yeah. That's that's my baby. That's my baby. I ain't gonna lie. Your boy, girl? Yeah, it's boy, yeah. Okay. That's my baby.

SPEAKER_12 1:12:29

Shout out to the boy dad.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:30

Boy dad. Let's go. Fuck y'all.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:34

Right? Yeah, right. Fuck these niggas, bro. Yeah, fuck that. I got I got my girl. He said, I don't know what you talking about. Yeah, I don't know what y'all talking about, bro. Nah, but uh, let's turn it down. This is more for the girl dads. Look at that. Let's turn it down. Uh, this is Illy's pick. Uh, how you come up on this, bro?

SPEAKER_12 1:12:53

Um, so I actually came across Aya. Her name is Aya, she goes by Aya in the sky. Um I came across her at uh the Can I Open Mics, the Man Static host, you know, and then heard her perform twice, and then I actually went to she does an open mic as well, you know, and that's the ones for mostly singers and poets.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:13:16

Um, so I went to her open mic, and you know, it was great vibe. So, you know, I I've she's quickly become one of my favorite voices in the city as far as like singers go. So um big shout out to her. I hope that she keeps you know releasing music and just keeps with the trajectory of what she's on now.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:37

Let's go. I like the aye in the sky thing. Yeah. Let's go. This is Aya, Pink Lady, official music video. Let's get it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:56

You make fallen in love feel like the autumn leaves. We grow chase like we are falling free. You pick the apples we love to treat me. I got you. I got you, I got you, baby. I got you, I got you. I got you, baby. I got you, I got you. She's so cold.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:44

She's gold. She's go.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:46

If she starts singing it anywhere, I'm stopping what I'm doing and I'm listening. She's so cold to me, like her jazzy voice, like she vocally got that shit on lock.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:56

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:57

I like that, fam. Yeah. And then she's it's just artists like that just in the city. Yeah. You know, and then that video was like so crispy. Yeah. Dog a hundred something views, bro. That's crazy how like crazy. It's crazy, like the level of shit you could just put out here, and people would just be like, Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like, did you not hear that? Did you not see the fucking dope visual, bro?

SPEAKER_10 1:16:19

Like, that should be that should be a hundred million. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:23

It should be. I'm you, you, you went. I was being like on some practical shit. That should be a billion. You feel me though? Like, you know, like it looked great. It's great, fam. It sounded amazing. So shout out to Aya. Yeah. That was dope, fam.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:38

And then uh and she sounds just like that in live. That's what I was just about to ask. That's great. She sounds just like that live, bro.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:45

Which is like, see, I've never I've never been like mad. I I I've heard of her, but I've never. Oh, have you? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:50

That's what's up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:51

I've never heard of her. She makes great music.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:53

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's what's up, bro. Might need a hook about her, bro. Man. That'll be dope. All right. So um, you want to go into these topics? Yeah, let's get these topics real quick, bro. All right, man. The first one, bro. Let's just uh jump off the gate with it, bro. Just cuz, bro. Pooh Sheisty robbed Gucci Mane, bro. Allegedly. Allegedly, cuz I'm not gonna do what Gucci Mane did. He went online and was like, I ain't gonna cooperate. Even though he robbed me, bro. He did rob me. He did rob me, bro. But low key, I really don't know the uh super details about the story. I'll just play this little clip and then we'll just kind of go off, you know. Just the I I I do have a topic like a headlining topic to say, you know what I'm saying? But uh we'll just go off. Let's just go off this one, bro. Let's let's see what Gookie's talking about.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:48

Don't tell nobody, not even the police. I don't believe in none of that shit. Only thing I believe in is don't tell the police. It's the only thing I believe in. I'ma smoke you. You know what's going on with me.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:04

Yeah, I ain't gonna tell nobody, not even the see what I'm saying? Like, all right. So the it's nuts, bro. He said, I'ma smoke you. Like, bro. Oh, so that that that's that that would be what my thing is. Um so I seen people caping for Gucci on some, like, well, I've been a fan of him and he's all about growth and this and all that, right? So my point is when white boys do it, they come when they come to the game and they fucking rap and do all this shit, and then they're like, hey, fuck you, I made it, I'm going back to here. What the fuck is the difference between that and Gucci man supposedly being, you know, oh well I grew out of that and all that, but I'm still, you know, but I'm still gonna rap about it. To me, if you gonna take that route and you need to displace yourself from all the bullshit that comes with stage, with uh talking about shit like that. Does that make sense to y'all? I get it.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:03

I see what you're saying, um, but that's the argument I hold with um like that's the problem I have with rappers who it's basically any famous rapper because they they're still rapping about trap shit, or you know, I I could care less whether it's them talking about they're doing it or they've done it. Because the when they're rapping about it in the sense of like this is my story and I've done it, they're making it sound cool to anybody who hasn't done it and is listening to and is like, man, I could probably do what he did and get to where he's at. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:38

So it's like so the participation doesn't matter to you.

SPEAKER_12 1:19:41

Yeah, the participation doesn't matter. If you're talking about it, then you're making it sound cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:45

I see what you're saying. So it's like and and I could I could get behind it again, but I I see exactly what you're saying. But that's a good point, actually. Um I'm a I'm a I'ma ponder on that. I'm gonna ponder on what you're doing. So what I'm saying is, I feel like if you're participating, then you have a right to speak on it. And I've I've said that a thousand times on the pod. Like if yours, if it's something you're actively participating in and you really are on that, then shit, who am I to tell you that you can't fucking talk about it yet?

SPEAKER_12 1:20:13

Or like now, what do you think about having had participated in it, but not participating anymore and still talking about it?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:20

And that and that's my whole topic. That's what I'm saying. That's I feel like if you have grown, and I'm just going off of what uh shout out to Sparkus. I'm just gonna say Sparkas was the one that he was like, I'd be like I've been a fan of Gucci forever, and he like grew out of it and shit. But there's a lot of people online that share his sentiment, you know, like why would he do that? He's a millionaire, and all that. Well, then stop talking about it, bro. And then he said that, and then I seen this. See, but then I'm like, bro, you talk about killing him online, and then you talk about I'm not gonna kill him.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:47

Okay, now that's that's a little bit different. Like, where he's like, Oh, I'm gonna smoke you. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a little different.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:53

You shouldn't talk about it or rap about it, nothing. You should be able to do it.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:55

When I hear artists like um, who's uh like uh kind of like Benny the Butcher a little bit, you know, like when they're talking about the shit, like uh move this amount of weight, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, bro. Or Griselda period. Yeah, Griselda's the whole, the whole able to you're not doing that anymore. We know you're out touring and you're you know, like you're making legit money, like why even talk about that anymore? And that's what I mean by like they're making it feel like it's cool to do, so that's gonna cause it is cool. I'm talking to say I'm talking to you.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:29

I was but I but I was gonna even with like cause I was gonna bring up Griselda, like from from what I be hearing, like, yeah, they do still rap about it. But but they think is they even with like Benny and them, like they also mentioned, like, hey, you gotta feel over this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is these are the consequences, like yeah, I did that, I don't do no more, but nigga, I I did five, ten in the in the in the federal, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 1:21:57

See, and I understand it to that point too. And one of my biggest understandings with that is the fact that um, you know, when shooting a movie, say, you know, they can fucking shoot a movie and it's got like drug dealing and stuff, and we understand that those actors are not like criminals. You know what I'm saying? So it's like we're smart enough to understand that that's not real life. Yeah, some people aren't, yeah, you know what I'm saying, like really dumb witted people, but like for the large majority, we believe we know this is just a movie, you know. So like the people who listen to music regularly and you know, are like on our type of intellectual level. We understand that like there's a difference between who you are now and who you were, or you know what I'm saying, what you're involved in. Storyteller. Yeah, storytelling, you know. So it's like but some people don't, you know. See, so what I'm gonna differentiate.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:48

I guess, yeah, I guess so. It's really hard to like put a I'm kinda I'm I'm kind of see, cause I'll hear shit like that, and I'm like, man, that makes so much sense, bro. But I'm like, like, you know, there's a difference to me between uh Benny the butcher and a Rick Ross. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Okay Rick Ross came out the gate, like I know Escobar, he or I know Noriega, the real Noriego, he owe me a hundred feet, you know, like that was shit. That's glorifying. That's fake. Yeah, no, you talk about some fake shit that and you're making it look cool. Oh, I'm the boss, and I'm fucking, you know, you was the CEO, fam. Shut the fuck up anyway. You know, so it's like Benny, Benny, who's really was in that culture, in that space, you know what I'm saying? He's done time for being in that fucking, you know what I'm saying? So it's like there's a difference between the participation and really doing it and telling your story of it, right? As opposed to you never were involved in that level at least of what you made it seem like. Yeah, and then you're talking about it like that, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, but now that you put it like that, I you feel where you're gonna be able to do that. There's there's there's a difference between acting it out and hey, I really did this and I'm gonna tell you about it. And also, Rick Ross don't talk about going to jail and fucking being fucked up, the the the negatives of it.

SPEAKER_10 1:24:02

You talking about the highs, all the highs.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:04

He talks about all the highs and the the fucking Maybax, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And he never says, like, hey, just so you know, you could I could have gone to jail for 100 years over this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I could have did some fucked up, you know. That's like that's like Jeezy. Jeezy would people used to be like, oh, he, but Jeezy would say it sometimes in his record, but hey, I can't let him get me, bro, because I'll be fucked up. This is not sweet, bro. It's not just all lights camera action, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, but but back to the the the Pooh Shisy shit, he is retarded for the whole shit. Not to say the word, I mean I don't know. Do I gotta bleep that these days? I don't fucking know. Who knows? You know, but he he is dumb with it. Yeah, he needs to be able to do that. That's a good way because they allegedly he was on a fucking ankle monitor. And to me, the whole thing that took it over the edge was you robbed everybody there, bro. Like, why the fuck did you if you're trying to get out of a contract to get 25 mil back or whatever you said you stole it from there? Why the fuck did you turn around and rob everybody in the building, fam? Now you just taking it to a whole nother level of uh stupidity, fam. Like, what the fuck was you doing, fam? And shit, I mean, at the same time, who am I to? I can't tell you shit, bro. You you know, if you when you go listen to dogs interviews and shit, he really on that. Like, oh yeah, hey, this is all I know, fam. You know, fuck that nigga, you know, and this is what I'm on, fam. You know what I mean? Like, so it's like like that was between you and Gucci, bro. Yeah, exactly. Not you, Gucci, yeah. Why did you do the whole shit, you know? But like what? According to some other shit I seen online, this is all speculation, y'all. Just so you know, I'm just saying what I seen on the fucking internet. Yeah, I know nothing about either one of these dudes, so I don't know. And I'm not a Gucci main fan to tell you any of the backstory or anything either. So but supposedly they're they're the the the camera footage they said they had is is untrue. But you had an angle monitor on, fam. They seen you at the spot, man. Everybody's out of their jewelry and shit. They got your ass. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_12 1:25:59

Like, yeah, that's why.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:00

But I was just saying, like, you know, I seen the uh disconnect, you know, because you know, don't let don't let Jack Harlow make an RB album, and then oh, he said he got blacker, bro. I can't believe him. And the motherfuckers is like, what the fuck? And then you know, post Malone, they hate that shit. And then they were like, but Gucci's talk about growth and all that shit now, and then he turned around, I'ma smoke you, like, bro. What is we doing, bro? Like, are we are you growing or are you on that? You know what I mean? Like, so it has to be across the board to save the culture, bro, to save the the hip hop culture, bro. Like, yeah, it has to be something that's for everybody, not just because a white boy do it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what I'm that's all I'm thinking, fam. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 1:26:39

So it's like okay, we we could agree, but we can all agree if this was this was Gucci back in the day. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:48

Somebody would I I I think that still might be the case. You know, I think he just got caught in a you know a situation where he just couldn't because yeah, I doubt that you know they had this nigga cowering in the corner, like, nah, ain't it? You know, nah, he was probably like, bro, you really honest, bro? Like, yeah, from what I know of him. And then one thing. They already tried to rob Gucci back in the day. We all know how that ended.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:11

One thing that I think about too is like the fact that um, you know, we're all from you know, inner city hood, you know what I'm saying? We've all experienced this life. Um you know, when you're trying to distance yourself from you know that lifestyle or the survival code and shit like that, yeah. And then people know that you've had to go through that, you know what I'm saying? They know, like, okay, you you got some street cred and shit.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:40

It's almost like, dog, why you know, like you're pulling that person back into that shit, you know what I'm saying? That demon shit. You know they're about that shit. You know what I'm saying? So like you know, and so basically you're trying to set them into a trap. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So it's like basic if you don't do what I'm saying, oh yeah, it's Now you're in my trap. If you do do what I'm saying, now you look like a bitch. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, and then it just makes it hard, you know, because you know, for somebody who's I'm all about growth and shit. If you come at me the wrong way, I might slap you pop up on site. I might not even give you the opportunity to finish your sentence. I've done it before. And that's a struggle.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:22

That's a struggle we have. Every daily struggle, bro. And it's like, see, it's so hard, bro. Cause like I agree with what I was just saying two minutes ago, but then I'm like, what you just said, it's like, bro, yeah, yeah. I care about my kids and my family life more than any of this shit, bro. Yeah. And the street shit means not a fucking thing to me, fam. Like, I already been there, did that. I did jail time. I did all that dumb shit that I thought I was supposed to do. Like in my mind, I'm like, I'm supposed to. I'm a quarter, I'm a young Puerto Rican kid, bro. I got I gotta go to jail. Everybody goes to jail, right? And everybody does not go to jail, fam. Like, we gotta stop telling people that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a chance you could go to jail because you live in poverty situations, but everybody doesn't go to jail, there's other routes to take. Yeah, you know, and you know, I wish I would have been exposed to the nerd uh philosophy, yeah. That nerds make way better livings than people on the street, yeah, and rappers and dope dealers, bro. The nerds is the ones really winning, yeah. They the ones, and then you know, they the ones having careers and money. Yeah, and you like, oh well, they wait till they're 30. Yeah, they're they wait till they're 30. Sure. What'd you do? You went to jail till you was 30. Now you out starting all over at 30. All over. You feel me? Yeah, so it's like it's it's really hard. It's a really fucked up situation. Uh, but I just wanted to play this because when he said when I seen this, I was like, all right. Dog said, I'm gonna smoke you. One thing I don't do is tell. You on Instagram live, bro, or whatever the fuck you was on. You on the fucking internet, you on the phone, like, I don't tell. Yeah, that shit's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:50

I got you know, I got people, and like I say, I ain't you know look, look, I I ain't I ain't a street nothing. All right, you know what I'm saying? I done did a couple little stupid things growing up, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I have I've I have people, you know, I'm friends with people who done, you know what I'm saying, really did that, and they sentiments be kind of similar to to this. Like, I'm you know, don't I know bitch, but I ain't trying to stay in that, right? You know what I mean? Like, I I I I I got out of that. I ain't trying to go back in that, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:30:22

Right. And that might be one of the biggest things in the the black community, the black and Latino community, is like you're taught that you can't be a bitch, you know what I'm saying? Like you can't be, and I know what that comes from. That's a whole nother conversation. We can talk about that for hours, but you know, that's the hardest thing ever we deal with on a daily basis, fam, is like who cares, bro? Right, right. Oh, you a bitch. Okay, I'll be a bitch today. What the fuck does that mean, fam? Who get and I'm I'm saying that now, but I walk outside right now and I'm up and be like, You a bitch, nigga. Fuck you. I gotta put my hands on you. You know what I'm saying? It's like, and I don't know why, like, you know, I know why. Like I said, that's a three-hour conversation.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:10

But it's like it's just ingredients.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:13

It's the people, man. This is what when the message should be put out through the music, yeah, is what I'm saying. Yeah, like you know, and it's not the mentality. Through the music, or in the music now is or through the cards.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:26

Well, like you know, it it he's trying to get out of a legal contract, yeah. You're doing illegal things to get out of something legally, you know what I'm saying? Like that's a you should have gone the proper court channels and shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:39

Save the court, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but but we're taught not to do that, yeah, yeah. Because that's almost like you snitching. No, you're not snitching, yeah. You know why white people do that shit to other white people every fucking day. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you oh, you're gonna fucking play with me, but I'm taking the fucking right to court, yeah. What the fuck? Like, I'm gonna sue you will sue the shit out of anybody who does, you know, and they'll fucking take it there. You know what I mean? So that's one thing that shit I admire about their system. They gotta set up to where any anybody can sue anybody. Yeah, I'll sue all y'all to fucking death. All right, well, let's roll this other clip. All right, this is the last topic right here, bro. Uh Poosh Icy, bro. Get together. Please, please. Please, yeah. For the speech of the case. For the sake of the sake of the culture. For the sake of the game, Christ. Just out. Let's just watch this clip and then we'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:28

The first question they always ask is, why are you not bigger? You're a star. Why are you not bigger? Because I don't want it enough. That's it. I just don't want it enough. I don't want it enough to have to change the way that you gotta change. I want it enough to see why the next person did it. I'm wanting enough to be in constant competition with the next person. I wanted enough to be in constant competition with myself. I wanted enough to have to sacrifice the things that I sacrifice. I see it. I don't want it enough to have to go back on my own values and my own morals to go with the program. I've seen it. I don't want it enough to be constantly paranoid. I'm private enough. I like my little line. I like being able to do what I could do. I like touching who I could touch. I never stopped making music. That part ain't never gonna die in me. But the fight to be seen, I just I healed that.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:37

You know? That's crazy, bro. Everything she said is a thousand percent facts. You know, uh one of my good friends, bro, and then we're like, we're we're on, we're on a rocky road now, but shout out to Burnham. Uh we got into some shit one time where you know he was like, Oh, you know, and people, he was like, Well, people don't fuck with the south side because you know they blah blah. And I'm like, people fuck with me, bro. You know what I mean? Like, they fuck with me, fam. I don't know if it's if it even matters about south side, north side, east side, whatever. They fuck with me though. He's like, oh, well, you know, and I'm like, I'm not in the circles and conversations that you're saying that they don't that they purposely keep me out of because I don't fucking want to. I don't do what I want or what they want me to be in there, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, everything in my rap career and everything I've accomplished, or you know, vice versa, if somebody else could see as unaccomplishments or something that I've under, you know, achieved, is because that's what I wanted to do. Yeah, I had my kid and that was my priority for the rest of my life. You know what I'm saying? And I like that. I I get more joy out of going home to see my daughter than I do from anything that I could do with rap. You know, not that rap doesn't fulfill me, I do get a lot of enjoyment and fulfillment out of performing and making music. And I like getting respect from my peers more than fans and shit. Real real talk, bro. I like when other people who rap good are like, heck, you snap, bro. You got it. To me, I'm like, shit, that fulfills my heart, bro. Like, I'm yeah, you know, I'm not dancing, I'm not shaking my ass, bro. I'm not fucking out here fighting motherfuckers online, I'm not beefing with you to get some clout, I'm not fucking talking shit back and forth with you to get engagement. I'm not doing none of that shit, bro. I'm not doing it. And what she said is so fucking true, bro. The fight to be seen, bro, no, is one of the craziest things you'll you'll ever experience, bro. Yeah, I've done it, I've been there. I'm like, oh, I gotta do, and then with little to no avail, fam. Like it just doesn't come, it doesn't come, bro. It's just like, damn, bro, I did everything I could with every penny I had, and it just didn't work out.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:44

And then you just you're left drained, and like she said, you like she gets to not have gone back on her morals and shit like that. A lot of people who will do whatever it takes to get to that place, like and you know, say it don't work out. Now, now you fucking gave it everything you had, plus you ain't got no fucking spine.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:06

Man, like and your butt hurt. Yeah, your butt hurt, nigga Diddy got you, and you didn't even work out, you didn't even get a payment, right? Uh man. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_10 1:36:17

I I I that's that's that's bro. That's how I feel right. Because I I I agree though, like, but I you know that's that's how I felt even when I had my kid. Like, I you know, I I genuinely enjoy just I genuinely enjoy knowing like that my son knows, hey dad, he gonna he gonna be there. Dad the one. Dad is the one. He he's gonna whenever I'm gonna go. That's my whenever I get there, dad's gonna be right there at the door. Yeah, you know what I mean. But back to rap, like that fulfills me too. Yeah, like hearing other fire niggas be like, you that that that was that was hard. You know what I'm saying? But fighting to be seen, fight, that's almost like fighting for fame. Yeah, that's what she's saying. Yeah, that's basically what she's saying. Yeah, I'm not, I'm I'm gonna fight for this money. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not fighting to be seen, that's not really well, you know, and then that's part of it, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:13

I feel like the fight for the money is where they get you, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:17

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:18

You know, they want you to to do all this shit to get paid, but in order to get paid these days, you gotta be seen, you gotta be seen, and you gotta be on bullshit.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:27

You know, Ray Daniels has a podcast. You know, Ray Daniels is so you know, Ray Daniels. So Ray Daniels, he was talking about on his podcast where he literally played, like, listen to this, and it was a chick singing, co. And then he played some other bullshit, and dog was like, Uh, some dumb shit. He was like, People like that shit, bro. That's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:45

And it's like, bro, not even only people, he was like, I hate the fact that I fucking have to like that shit, and this woman singing her ass off. Yeah, she's singing her whole heart mate, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:54

You know what I mean? And then you gotta kind of, and that's what you're competing with, yeah. Yeah, you know, and then I seen that right away. In the like, I want to say maybe eight to ten years ago. I've seen it. I'm like, I'm over here really rapping. I'm I'm performing. Every anytime somebody set a standard to perform or rap, or to you gotta go live, you gotta have people at your shows, you gotta fucking have merch. You I did all the steps, and then I look, and there's some motherfucker being goofy as hell. He wants to be with everybody, he wanna be on bullshit, he get all the love. I'm like, oh this ain't for me, fam. This ain't for me, bro.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:28

There's a a parody that um I think about when I hear this topic, and it's about uh a guy who's a fisherman, and then he goes out, he catches a fish with his son every day, you know what I'm saying? He gets to go back, his wife cooks the fish, you know, and then the next day he goes out and he meets a man at the where wherever he fishes, and he's like, Oh, you know, you know how to catch fish, and he's like, Yeah, he's like, Oh man, you should get a boat. You know, if you go out further, you could get a little more fish. He's like, Well, you know, what what happens if I get the boat? And he's like, Well, maybe you'll catch more fish, and then you know, instead of one fish, you can fucking catch five fish and you can sell the other four, and then you know, once you sell the other four, you could over time you could get another boat, you know. And he's like, and then you could catch more fish and you can employ some people, and then and then dude's like, So, you know, what is doing all that get me? He's like, Well, you know, eventually if you do that after a while, you know, you you don't have to go out and fish no more. You know, people will catch you the fish, you know, and then and he's like, but you know, you'll have to like manage all these people and make sure, you know. He's like, Well, that's more than catching up. That's gonna take away time for my family. You know, he's like, I'm happy with what I got right now. You know, all I have to do is go catch the fish with my son. I can spend time with my son and go home, spend time with my wife. She cooks the fish. We're we have a great life. And then the guy's like, Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_10 1:39:52

But like, if you're cool with that, you know.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:55

And that's the that's the trap, though. You know, people make it seem like what we got now is not sufficient enough, yeah. You know, so yeah, and and then I just thought about it right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:05

Y'all be having me thinking this shit. So I just thought about it right now. Like, at the end of the day, if I'm right here in Milwaukee and I go do a show and I'm like, hey, Trey, Ellie, come fuck with me, bro. SG man, come fuck with me. Yeah, y'all my people already. Yeah, if I get any bigger than this, when I want to come back from all the thousands of people who don't really know me, I'm gonna fuck with y'all anyway. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so the need to go past your little circle where you're at is all fabricated. It's all yeah for money. Like you said, yeah, you're gonna be fucking have having all this money, but if you're fucking working 18 hours a day outside of your people, you're just with people you don't even know working 20 hours a day and you got all this money for what? For who? Who you doing it like and then when you fucking retract from from all that bullshit, you come back to the same people that you was with in the beginning, yeah. So why not just cultivate that and keep it right here? Or the people that you was doing it for, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. You're doing it for them, but you're not even there, yeah. But that fish analogy is like super fucking perfectly great, you know, like that was a great man. Like, but that that that video hits super close to my heart, bro, because I'm like, yeah, I just I just can't do it, bro. Y'all out here dropping it low. Dropping it, get your eagle on, all kinds of shit, bro. And it's like I just can't, I can't do it, fam. It's not, it's not what I, you know. Like nowadays, your internet personality is more important to the success than your actual skill set and talent is, yeah, you know, and your image, you know, that's another thing. You know, I never really look like a rapper, I feel like. I feel like no matter what I've done, you know, I grew my hair out. A lot of people don't know that. I grew my fucking hair long to, you know, to you know, I've always had long hair when I was little too, but at this time in my life, when I grew this hair out, I literally grew it out because I'm like, oh, it'll give me a little look. Yeah, no bullshit. And that's just being honest, that's just being transparent with everybody. You know what I'm saying? Like my hair right now is thrown out because I made the decision to do it because you know, now I like it now. Like it started off like that, is what I'm saying. Yeah, now I like it, you know, because the history of you know, braids and all that, you know. It it it it it's it means more, it means more to me because I know the background of it, yeah, you know, yeah. So it's like I fuck with that be for that reason, but it literally started because I'm like, man, I need something to just kind of just give me a look. Cause I never really look like a rapper. There's people out here who are trash at rapping, but they can walk in the room, you're like, You a rapper? You know, you just look like that, you know what I mean? Like you look apart, yeah, you know what I mean? So, yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:45

Well, um, Trey Man, thank you very much for joining us on this uh episode.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:50

Thanks, thank you.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:51

Definitely a pleasure, you know. Like from hearing about you and then diving into your music, and then this being the first time we actually meet. And like he said, you're somebody who's very humble and you got a vibe about you, man. And it's like it's it's real easy to sit down and talk with you.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:09

Yeah, yeah. I I'm like I said, I'm all I always been a humble person. I'm never like like yeah, inside I know I'm great at this, but I ain't gotta be like out with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:20

Well, knowing you're great and arrogant is two different things, you know. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. You know, knowing you're great.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:25

We all on the mic and off the mic. That's two different personas, you know. On the mic, talk your shit. You know what I'm saying? But off the mic, you know, just be relatable, you know, and you definitely execute that well, man. So uh I commend you and like I said, thank you. Heck, you wanna man? Thank y'all for for having me too.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:42

Oh, thank you for having me. Y'all appreciate you coming up. I I watched the the podcast even before I got on, like the podcast, like I was watching y'all. Like, y'all really do great stuff, man. Like this is this is another like this this is another platform for the city that that sticks out. Yes, you know, similar to to you know how Rick Taylor do it. Like this sticks out, like this is gone, this is this is something that that people should should pay attention to and and keep paying attention to. That's what that's what we seek.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:14

I feel like this conversation, this this one was good, bro. Oh, yeah. I thought this was a good like no bush. I had a great time. The topics were great, you know. So I feel like we uh this is you know, it gets better and better, but this might be. I'll post it on Facebook and tag you if I feel still feel like that then, but this might be my top interview right now, bro. I had a good time, bro.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:34

What? So that concludes this episode of the all 414 podcast, brought to you by Illy, Street Team Hectic, Third War Studios, SG Films, and our guest for episode 36, Trey Lampkin.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:51

Thank you so much for having me. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:54

Bless me and a pleasure. If you haven't already, we encourage you to take a moment to subscribe to our channel, like this video, and leave a comment about the topic that interests you the most. Thank you for watching and come back for the next episode of the All Fo One Food Cast.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:11

Be Pooh Trustworthy and not poo shiny. Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:15

I'm smiling, that was hilarious. That was hilarious.